The 3rd ww;armageddon;

[2besee]

Ed,
False alarm.
I believe that this particular dream about the Russians was 'just a dream' – it was different than the other three, and I have learnt how to tell the difference now.
The other three, plus other dreams in the past which I had which came true left me thinking each time, to the point where I could not stop thinking about them, where this dream (the Russian one) did not keep me thinking, and did not feel the same as the others. So, the Russian dream – just a dream. Now I know the difference though.

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,09:46) Ed, Quote  Daniel 8:11 appears to be referencing Nebuchadnezzar and the year 602 BC. He trashed the temple, and stoled all the artifacts of gold he could find. Ed It doesn't appear that way to me?  Nebuchadnezzar is before Alexander. The little horn comes out of one of the 4 generals (after Greece), not Babylon. Babylon, Medo/Persia Grecia 4 Generals (Roman Empire came up.  Big empire.) Babylon (King Neb) long gone Ed. Daniel 8:17   So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man, for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Daniel 8:19   And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. Daniel 8:20   The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. (PAST) Daniel 8:21   And the rough goat is the king of Grecia.  and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. (ALEXANDER, PAST) Daniel 8:22   Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. (NOT ALEXANDERS POWER, AND WE KNOW THAT IN DANIEL 8:9 IT SAYS THAT OUT OF …ONE OF THEM… CAME FORTH A LITTLE HORN THAT WAXED GREAT.  OUT OF ONE OF THOSE GENERALS CAME UP A POWERFUL EMPIRE) Daniel 8:23   And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (THE FALSE PROPHET) Daniel 8:24   And his power shall be mighty but not by his own power (SATANS POWER): and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. (THE ONES WHO REFUSE THE MARK OF THE BEAST. CHRISTIANS) Daniel 8:25   And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand (Rev 13:13,14), and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (JESUS CHRIST): but he shall be broken without hands (CHRIST'S SECOND COMING – DANIEL 2:45, Rev 19:20).

Hi Journey42,

When you say “PAST” – are you referencing our time or the time that was written in Daniel?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ July 10 2013,02:40)

Quote (journey42 @ July 09 2013,00:02) Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,09:46) Ed, Quote  Daniel 8:11 appears to be referencing Nebuchadnezzar and the year 602 BC. He trashed the temple, and stoled all the artifacts of gold he could find. Ed It doesn't appear that way to me?  Nebuchadnezzar is before Alexander. The little horn comes out of one of the 4 generals (after Greece), not Babylon. Babylon, Medo/Persia Grecia 4 Generals (Roman Empire came up.  Big empire.) Babylon (King Neb) long gone Ed. Daniel 8:17   So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man, for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Daniel 8:19   And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. Daniel 8:20   The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. (PAST) Daniel 8:21   And the rough goat is the king of Grecia.  and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. (ALEXANDER, PAST) Daniel 8:22   Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. (NOT ALEXANDERS POWER, AND WE KNOW THAT IN DANIEL 8:9 IT SAYS THAT OUT OF …ONE OF THEM… CAME FORTH A LITTLE HORN THAT WAXED GREAT.  OUT OF ONE OF THOSE GENERALS CAME UP A POWERFUL EMPIRE) Daniel 8:23   And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (THE FALSE PROPHET) Daniel 8:24   And his power shall be mighty but not by his own power (SATANS POWER): and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. (THE ONES WHO REFUSE THE MARK OF THE BEAST. CHRISTIANS) Daniel 8:25   And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand (Rev 13:13,14), and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (JESUS CHRIST): but he shall be broken without hands (CHRIST'S SECOND COMING – DANIEL 2:45, Rev 19:20). Hi Journey42, When you say “PAST” – are you referencing our time or the time that was written in Daniel? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.HELLO??

wakeup.

[terraricca]

wakeup

i do not think that their will be a third w.war but what will happen is this ;

1) Ps 9:15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug;
2) their feet are caught in the net they have hidden.
3) Ps 9:16 The LORD is known by his justice;
4) the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands

item 1,2,4,will come on men and it is happen tight now

the reason for this to happen in this way is #3 the justice of God as come for the righteous ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,02:24)

wakeup i do not think that their will be a third w.war but what will happen is this ; 1)    Ps 9:15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug; 2)   their feet are caught in the net they have hidden. 3)   Ps 9:16 The LORD is known by his justice;  4)  the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands item 1,2,4,will come on men and it is happen tight now the reason for this to happen in this way is #3 the justice of God  as come for the righteous ,

Terra.

Revelation 9:13 And the **sixth angel sounded**, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, **Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates**.
( THE RIVER EUPHRATES DRIED UP, TO PREPARE FOR THE KING OF THE EAST TO CROSS).(THE *MEDES* AND HIS DOMINION).

Revelation 9:15 **And the four angels were loosed**, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for **to slay the third part of men**.

Revelation 9:16 And the *number of the army* of the horsemen were *two hundred thousand thousand*: and I heard the number of them. (THAT IS 200MILLION).

Revelation 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
(THIS IS DESCRIBING ALL THE HARDWARE OF WAR).

Revelation 9:18 By these three was the **third part of men killed**, *by the fire*, and *by the smoke*, and by *the brimstone*, which issued out of *their mouths*.
(MOUTHS OF THE GUNS AND CANNONS,AND ROCKETS).

Revelation 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
(TAIL REPRESENTS; THE TANK LONG CANNON BARRELS).

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
(AFTER ALL THIS ;MEN STIL DO THE SAME THING,THEY DONT CHANGE THEIR WAYS).

Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
(THEY WILL BE PUNISHED MORE,AT THE COMING).

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,05:23)

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,02:24) wakeup i do not think that their will be a third w.war but what will happen is this ; 1)    Ps 9:15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug; 2)   their feet are caught in the net they have hidden. 3)   Ps 9:16 The LORD is known by his justice;  4)  the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands item 1,2,4,will come on men and it is happen tight now the reason for this to happen in this way is #3 the justice of God  as come for the righteous , Terra. Revelation 9:13   And the **sixth angel sounded**, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,  Revelation 9:14   Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, **Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates**. ( THE RIVER EUPHRATES DRIED UP, TO PREPARE FOR THE KING OF THE EAST TO CROSS).(THE *MEDES* AND HIS DOMINION).  Revelation 9:15   **And the four angels were loosed**, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for **to slay the third part of men**.  Revelation 9:16   And the *number of the army* of the horsemen were *two hundred thousand thousand*: and I heard the number of them. (THAT IS 200MILLION).  Revelation 9:17   And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. (THIS IS DESCRIBING ALL THE  HARDWARE OF WAR).  Revelation 9:18   By these three was the **third part of men killed**, *by the fire*, and *by the smoke*, and by *the brimstone*, which issued out of *their mouths*. (MOUTHS OF THE GUNS AND CANNONS,AND ROCKETS).  Revelation 9:19   For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. (TAIL REPRESENTS; THE TANK LONG CANNON BARRELS).  Revelation 9:20   And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: (AFTER ALL THIS ;MEN STIL DO THE SAME THING,THEY DONT CHANGE THEIR WAYS).  Revelation 9:21   Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. (THEY WILL BE PUNISHED MORE,AT THE COMING). wakeup.

WAKEUP

I can see your point but the way it goes it seems very unlikely to happen ,but what i quote you in that scripture will by no means pass by ,it is here now ,

it seems that for now no nation can afford a war they are so far in debt i wander wen they going to go bankrupt ,and with all the disasters coming on to them they soon will have no more money to rebuild even the insurance company will go bankrupt ,this is nothing to compere to all the radio active material that they have stash away in secret places for 50 years ,and other toxic material ,this will come and hunt us all ,

this is a bonus above all the climate changes that God as made to come upon the nation because his time of justice as come ,of cause all this will also bring a psychological disasters , and what not ….

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,11:55)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,05:23) Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,02:24) wakeup i do not think that their will be a third w.war but what will happen is this ; 1)    Ps 9:15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug; 2)   their feet are caught in the net they have hidden. 3)   Ps 9:16 The LORD is known by his justice;  4)  the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands item 1,2,4,will come on men and it is happen tight now the reason for this to happen in this way is #3 the justice of God  as come for the righteous , Terra. Revelation 9:13   And the **sixth angel sounded**, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,  Revelation 9:14   Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, **Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates**. ( THE RIVER EUPHRATES DRIED UP, TO PREPARE FOR THE KING OF THE EAST TO CROSS).(THE *MEDES* AND HIS DOMINION).  Revelation 9:15   **And the four angels were loosed**, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for **to slay the third part of men**.  Revelation 9:16   And the *number of the army* of the horsemen were *two hundred thousand thousand*: and I heard the number of them. (THAT IS 200MILLION).  Revelation 9:17   And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. (THIS IS DESCRIBING ALL THE  HARDWARE OF WAR).  Revelation 9:18   By these three was the **third part of men killed**, *by the fire*, and *by the smoke*, and by *the brimstone*, which issued out of *their mouths*. (MOUTHS OF THE GUNS AND CANNONS,AND ROCKETS).  Revelation 9:19   For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. (TAIL REPRESENTS; THE TANK LONG CANNON BARRELS).  Revelation 9:20   And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: (AFTER ALL THIS ;MEN STIL DO THE SAME THING,THEY DONT CHANGE THEIR WAYS).  Revelation 9:21   Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. (THEY WILL BE PUNISHED MORE,AT THE COMING). wakeup. WAKEUP I can see your point but the way it goes it seems very unlikely to happen ,but what i quote you in that scripture will by no means pass by ,it is here now , it seems that for now no nation can afford a war they are so far in debt i wander wen they going to go bankrupt ,and with all the disasters coming on to them they soon will have no more money to rebuild even the insurance company will go bankrupt  ,this is nothing to compere to all the radio active material that they have stash away in secret places for 50 years ,and other toxic material ,this will come and hunt us all , this is a bonus above all the climate changes that God as made to come upon the nation because his time of justice as come ,of cause all this will also bring a psychological disasters , and what not ….

Terra.

The nations are indeed bankrupt;but it is designed that way, by the multi corporates.
They are not bankrupt.They are the top Elite.
They are the ones that causes wars in the world for profit.
By selling war equipments,and oil.
And the are giving both sides money with *interest* for the wars. Causing the nations to ow them money.
All our tax money is to pay the interest.

Their agenda is to bring down govenments,and laws.
So they can come up with new laws for their own benefit.
That way, control the world.

The prophesies must be fulfilled as written.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,07:47)

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,11:55) Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,05:23) Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,02:24) wakeup i do not think that their will be a third w.war but what will happen is this ; 1)    Ps 9:15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug; 2)   their feet are caught in the net they have hidden. 3)   Ps 9:16 The LORD is known by his justice;  4)  the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands item 1,2,4,will come on men and it is happen tight now the reason for this to happen in this way is #3 the justice of God  as come for the righteous , Terra. Revelation 9:13   And the **sixth angel sounded**, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,  Revelation 9:14   Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, **Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates**. ( THE RIVER EUPHRATES DRIED UP, TO PREPARE FOR THE KING OF THE EAST TO CROSS).(THE *MEDES* AND HIS DOMINION).  Revelation 9:15   **And the four angels were loosed**, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for **to slay the third part of men**.  Revelation 9:16   And the *number of the army* of the horsemen were *two hundred thousand thousand*: and I heard the number of them. (THAT IS 200MILLION).  Revelation 9:17   And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. (THIS IS DESCRIBING ALL THE  HARDWARE OF WAR).  Revelation 9:18   By these three was the **third part of men killed**, *by the fire*, and *by the smoke*, and by *the brimstone*, which issued out of *their mouths*. (MOUTHS OF THE GUNS AND CANNONS,AND ROCKETS).  Revelation 9:19   For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. (TAIL REPRESENTS; THE TANK LONG CANNON BARRELS).  Revelation 9:20   And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: (AFTER ALL THIS ;MEN STIL DO THE SAME THING,THEY DONT CHANGE THEIR WAYS).  Revelation 9:21   Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. (THEY WILL BE PUNISHED MORE,AT THE COMING). wakeup. WAKEUP I can see your point but the way it goes it seems very unlikely to happen ,but what i quote you in that scripture will by no means pass by ,it is here now , it seems that for now no nation can afford a war they are so far in debt i wander wen they going to go bankrupt ,and with all the disasters coming on to them they soon will have no more money to rebuild even the insurance company will go bankrupt  ,this is nothing to compere to all the radio active material that they have stash away in secret places for 50 years ,and other toxic material ,this will come and hunt us all , this is a bonus above all the climate changes that God as made to come upon the nation because his time of justice as come ,of cause all this will also bring a psychological disasters , and what not …. Terra. The nations are indeed bankrupt;but it is designed that way, by the multi corporates. They are not bankrupt.They are the top Elite. They are the ones that causes wars in the world for profit. By selling war equipments,and oil. And the are giving both sides money with *interest*  for the wars. Causing the nations to ow them money. All our tax money is to pay the interest. Their agenda is to bring down govenments,and laws. So they can come up with new laws for their own benefit. That way, control the world. The prophesies must be fulfilled as written. wakeup.

WAKEUP

they will trow the money on the streets it will become useless ,your view is good if they can keep peace one one side of the world while the other side is at war , but it seems God does not do those things ,we all get hurt around the world ,poor, rich ,middle class,small city's ,big city s ,rich countries,poor countries,

no difference ,we all get it and this is only the beginning ,what will be next ?….

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,15:52)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,07:47) Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,11:55) Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,05:23) Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,02:24) wakeup i do not think that their will be a third w.war but what will happen is this ; 1)    Ps 9:15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug; 2)   their feet are caught in the net they have hidden. 3)   Ps 9:16 The LORD is known by his justice;  4)  the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands item 1,2,4,will come on men and it is happen tight now the reason for this to happen in this way is #3 the justice of God  as come for the righteous , Terra. Revelation 9:13   And the **sixth angel sounded**, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,  Revelation 9:14   Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, **Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates**. ( THE RIVER EUPHRATES DRIED UP, TO PREPARE FOR THE KING OF THE EAST TO CROSS).(THE *MEDES* AND HIS DOMINION).  Revelation 9:15   **And the four angels were loosed**, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for **to slay the third part of men**.  Revelation 9:16   And the *number of the army* of the horsemen were *two hundred thousand thousand*: and I heard the number of them. (THAT IS 200MILLION).  Revelation 9:17   And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. (THIS IS DESCRIBING ALL THE  HARDWARE OF WAR).  Revelation 9:18   By these three was the **third part of men killed**, *by the fire*, and *by the smoke*, and by *the brimstone*, which issued out of *their mouths*. (MOUTHS OF THE GUNS AND CANNONS,AND ROCKETS).  Revelation 9:19   For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. (TAIL REPRESENTS; THE TANK LONG CANNON BARRELS).  Revelation 9:20   And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: (AFTER ALL THIS ;MEN STIL DO THE SAME THING,THEY DONT CHANGE THEIR WAYS).  Revelation 9:21   Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. (THEY WILL BE PUNISHED MORE,AT THE COMING). wakeup. WAKEUP I can see your point but the way it goes it seems very unlikely to happen ,but what i quote you in that scripture will by no means pass by ,it is here now , it seems that for now no nation can afford a war they are so far in debt i wander wen they going to go bankrupt ,and with all the disasters coming on to them they soon will have no more money to rebuild even the insurance company will go bankrupt  ,this is nothing to compere to all the radio active material that they have stash away in secret places for 50 years ,and other toxic material ,this will come and hunt us all , this is a bonus above all the climate changes that God as made to come upon the nation because his time of justice as come ,of cause all this will also bring a psychological disasters , and what not …. Terra. The nations are indeed bankrupt;but it is designed that way, by the multi corporates. They are not bankrupt.They are the top Elite. They are the ones that causes wars in the world for profit. By selling war equipments,and oil. And the are giving both sides money with *interest*  for the wars. Causing the nations to ow them money. All our tax money is to pay the interest. Their agenda is to bring down govenments,and laws. So they can come up with new laws for their own benefit. That way, control the world. The prophesies must be fulfilled as written. wakeup. WAKEUP they will trow the money on the streets it will become useless ,your view is good if they can keep peace one one side of the world while the other side is at war , but it seems God does not do those things ,we all get hurt around the world ,poor, rich ,middle class,small city's ,big city s ,rich countries,poor countries, no difference ,we all get it and this is only the beginning ,what will be next ?….

Terra.

Next; Europe will go bankrupt.and is already,
then America will go bankrupt.
Then there will be civil wars every where,food will be
very scares.
Farmers are not allowed to grow food without permission.
The population are also not allowed;their excuse is to stop spreading decease.Only they can grow the food.
So we will depend on them.

Then the son of perdition will be revealed,to bring peace,
but we know it will be only for a short time.
The world will except him as saviour.

It is only possible that before the son of perdition will be revealed. They will reveal an *pretend antichrist*,and he will be destroyed by the real one. This is to deceive the world. Many can not see the difference,they will be fooled.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Terra. Next; Europe will go bankrupt.and is already, then America will go bankrupt. Then there will be civil wars every where,food will be very scares. Farmers are not allowed to grow food without permission. The population are also not allowed;their excuse is to stop spreading decease.Only they can grow the food. So we will depend on them. Then the son of perdition will be revealed,to bring peace, but we know it will be only for a short time. The world will except him as saviour. It is only possible that before the son of perdition will be revealed. They will reveal an *pretend antichrist*,and he will be destroyed by the real one. This is to deceive the world. Many can not see the difference,they will be fooled. wakeup.

yes and because of it the www3 is unlikely,but their is yet one battle for Christ to fight with his angels and that is at the end of the second resurrection and the temptation from the then released Satan and i believe that that is the battle of Armageddon ,because this battle as the same implication than in the war that happen with the king of Israel and Egypt Nebo (this name I not sure i kind said it from memory)the king of Israel died in it .to have interfered .

[Wakeup]

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WAKEUP Quote Terra. Next; Europe will go bankrupt.and is already, then America will go bankrupt. Then there will be civil wars every where,food will be very scares. Farmers are not allowed to grow food without permission. The population are also not allowed;their excuse is to stop spreading decease.Only they can grow the food. So we will depend on them. Then the son of perdition will be revealed,to bring peace, but we know it will be only for a short time. The world will except him as saviour. It is only possible that before the son of perdition will be revealed. They will reveal an *pretend antichrist*,and he will be destroyed by the real one. This is to deceive the world. Many can not see the difference,they will be fooled. wakeup. yes and because of it the www3 is unlikely,but their is yet one battle for Christ to fight with his angels and that is at the end of the second resurrection and the temptation from the then released Satan and i believe that that is the battle of Armageddon ,because this battle as the same implication than in the war that happen with the king of Israel and Egypt Nebo  (this name I not sure i kind said it from memory)the king of Israel died in it .to have interfered .

Terra.

The war of Gog and magog is before the *second* resurrection.(REV.20:6–15).
This is a war against the camp of the saints(the kingdom of the saints).
This is when God himself will destroy satan,and all that follow him.(all the dead will be buried in a place called *HAMONGOG*;east of jerusalem).(EZ.39:11.12.15).

The war of armageddon is at the coming.
But first the false prophet and his armies will attac Jerusalem; destroy the dome, so his temple can be build.

The king of the east(the medes and allies) will cross the river Euphrates. This will be the 3rdww.
But Christ will stop it short, for the elect sake,or no flesh shall be saved.

The appearing of Christ in the clouds will bring the two parties together;this is the war of armageddon.
Satan will be put in prison. The beast(babylon; empire of 10 kings) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire;**but not satan**.(REV..19:20).
All the dead will be piled up in a place called *THE VALLEY OF HINOM*.(ISAIAH.30:30:33) (JER.19:6–12).

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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The war of Gog and magog is before the *second* resurrection.(REV.20:6–15). This is a war against the camp of the saints(the kingdom of the saints).

the only time on earth that their would be a camp or city of the saints ,is after the millennium because all the saint would be either in heaven (144k) or be on earth as representing God and Christ kingdom of righteousness ,and so after the second resurrection of all men of all nations they will each in their own way make the choice for Christ or against ,at the end it will be the battle of Armageddon to finalizing all things of the ancient world,because right after dead is trow in the lake of fire ,and the new earth is in place

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Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2013,09:25)

wakeup Quote The war of Gog and magog is before the *second* resurrection.(REV.20:6–15). This is a war against the camp of the saints(the kingdom of the saints). the only time on earth that their would be a camp or city of the saints ,is after the millennium because all the saint would be either in heaven (144k) or be on earth as representing God and Christ kingdom of righteousness ,and so after the second resurrection of all men of all nations they will each in their own  way make the choice for Christ or against ,at the end it will be the battle of Armageddon to finalizing all things of the ancient world,because right after dead is trow in the lake of fire ,and the new earth is in place

Terra.

The millenium is the kingdom Of God,with Jesus and his saints ruling for a 1000years.This is soon after armageddon;the 2nd coming.

The resurrected saints can also go to heaven,but they have a job to do on earth.
They are teaching the jews in the kingdom.And the jews teaching all the gentiles outside.

Armageddon is the second coming,and then the setting up of the 1000yr kingdom.

Satan will only be let loose after the 1000yr teachings is finish; to draw out the non believers.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,22:07)

Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2013,09:25) wakeup Quote The war of Gog and magog is before the *second* resurrection.(REV.20:6–15). This is a war against the camp of the saints(the kingdom of the saints). the only time on earth that their would be a camp or city of the saints ,is after the millennium because all the saint would be either in heaven (144k) or be on earth as representing God and Christ kingdom of righteousness ,and so after the second resurrection of all men of all nations they will each in their own  way make the choice for Christ or against ,at the end it will be the battle of Armageddon to finalizing all things of the ancient world,because right after dead is trow in the lake of fire ,and the new earth is in place Terra. The millenium is the kingdom Of God,with Jesus and his saints ruling for a 1000years.This is soon after armageddon;the 2nd coming. The resurrected saints can also go to heaven,but they have a job to do on earth. They are teaching the jews in the kingdom.And the jews teaching all the gentiles outside. Armageddon is the second coming,and then the setting up of the 1000yr kingdom. Satan will only be let loose after the 1000yr teachings is finish; to draw out the non believers. wakeup.

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I am on the understanding that the millennium his the day of the lord ,the day of rest ,before entering into the new earth were there are trees that give live to those that eat from it ,…….

but first after that day we have the final clean up ,

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Quote (terraricca @ July 13 2013,12:59)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,22:07) Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2013,09:25) wakeup Quote The war of Gog and magog is before the *second* resurrection.(REV.20:6–15). This is a war against the camp of the saints(the kingdom of the saints). the only time on earth that their would be a camp or city of the saints ,is after the millennium because all the saint would be either in heaven (144k) or be on earth as representing God and Christ kingdom of righteousness ,and so after the second resurrection of all men of all nations they will each in their own  way make the choice for Christ or against ,at the end it will be the battle of Armageddon to finalizing all things of the ancient world,because right after dead is trow in the lake of fire ,and the new earth is in place Terra. The millenium is the kingdom Of God,with Jesus and his saints ruling for a 1000years.This is soon after armageddon;the 2nd coming. The resurrected saints can also go to heaven,but they have a job to do on earth. They are teaching the jews in the kingdom.And the jews teaching all the gentiles outside. Armageddon is the second coming,and then the setting up of the 1000yr kingdom. Satan will only be let loose after the 1000yr teachings is finish; to draw out the non believers. wakeup. wakeup I am on the understanding that the millennium his the day of the lord ,the day of rest ,before entering into the new earth were there are trees that give live to those that eat from it ,……. but first after that day we have the final clean up ,

Terra.

Thats correct; the millenim is the 7th day of a1000yr rest.
In that day there will be rest;
peace,no wars,no tears,no pain,no sorrows.
That day will come soon after armageddon.

No wicked can enter into that rest.

Christ will set up his kingdom,*after* babylon is destroyed.
Dan.2;44.45.And in the days of these kings(10 kings)(10toes); shall the God of heaven *SET UP* A KINGDOM.
which shall never be destoyed:
AND THE KINGDOM SHALL **NOT BE LEFT TO OTHER PEOPLE**,BUT IT SHALL BREAK IN PEACES AND CONSUME,*ALL* THESE KINGDOMS(BABYLON),IT SHALL *STAND FOR EVER*.

45. FOR AS MUCH AS THOU SAWEST THAT *THE STONE*(JESUS)*WAS CUT OUT OF *THE MAUNTAIN* (GODS KINGDOM IN HEAVEN) *WITHOUT HANDS*,THAT IT BREAK IN PEACES THE IRON,THE BRASS,THE CLAY,THE SILVER,AND THE GOLD.—–(this is the end time babylon kingdom, consisting of *all those believe systems*).

(ARMAGEDDON IS THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON THE
GREAT IN *ONE DAY*).

JESUS *COMING OUT OF THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN* TO EARTH, TO DESTROY BABYLON,AND SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH.HIS 1000YR REST.

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JESUS *COMING OUT OF THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN* TO EARTH, TO DESTROY BABYLON,AND SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH.HIS 1000YR REST

this seems not right ,to me that is,if the kingdom of Christ is establish then there could be no wickedness remain ever because it is an everlasting kingdom ,so his kingdom can only be finally establish at the end of the judgement of the second resurrection and the destruction of Satan and his supporting wicked people ,what is done just prior to the throwing of DEAD into the lake of fire ;so total peace can only come after those events and not before .

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Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,00:44)

wakeup Quote JESUS *COMING OUT OF THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN* TO EARTH, TO DESTROY BABYLON,AND SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH.HIS 1000YR REST this seems not right ,to me that is,if the kingdom of Christ is establish then there could be no wickedness remain ever because it is an everlasting kingdom ,so his kingdom can only be finally establish at the end of the judgement of the second resurrection and the destruction of Satan and his supporting wicked people ,what is done just prior to the throwing of DEAD into the lake of fire ;so total peace can only come after those events and not before .

Terra.

We are on a good thing here.

The *first dominion* is the 1000yr kingdom.
This will be for a time limit(1000yrs),to teach the jews inside, and the gentiles outside.
There will be no wickedness inside the kingdom.

But outside the boundary will be the remnants of the gentiles living. There will be wickedness practised,outside.

But many of them on the outside will accept the teachings,and they can from year to year come in; to celebrate the feast of tabernacles.

When the 1000years are expired satan will be let loose **to draw** all those wicked ones to one place to be destroyed.Satan will go through out the four corners of earth,to draw all the wicked to israel to surround the camp. THE CAMP IS 2240X2240X2240KM.

Why a cube? because the fallen angels are not allowed to fly over the camp. (there is a no fly zone).

This surrounding of the camp; would be the war of Gog and Magog.
This is when all the wicked; and satan,and his angels;will be destroyed.
So all the wicked are no more.

But there are still the wicked, and good people in the graves;that died; of many generations,from the beginning of mankind,of all sorts of religions and tongues.

They also needs to be judged; this is the second judgement. The white throne judgement. They will be judged according to their deeds.The books are opened.

The sheep put on the right; and the goats on the left.

The sheep will be changed;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are.

Now all the bad(wicked) are no more.Only the good left.

The *second* dominion will be the whole earth.(for ever).
But the earth and the heavens are still poluted,it needs cleaning up by melting it. Then the new heaven and the new earth. Then God will come down.

PS: Satan will be locked up;but not his angels.
They are still around,but not in the camp.
Why? Because the people outside need some resitants.
They still have to choose between Good and bad.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,21:01)

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,00:44) wakeup Quote JESUS *COMING OUT OF THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN* TO EARTH, TO DESTROY BABYLON,AND SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH.HIS 1000YR REST this seems not right ,to me that is,if the kingdom of Christ is establish then there could be no wickedness remain ever because it is an everlasting kingdom ,so his kingdom can only be finally establish at the end of the judgement of the second resurrection and the destruction of Satan and his supporting wicked people ,what is done just prior to the throwing of DEAD into the lake of fire ;so total peace can only come after those events and not before . Terra. We are on a good thing here. The *first dominion* is the 1000yr kingdom. This will be for a time limit(1000yrs),to teach the jews inside, and the gentiles outside. There will be no wickedness inside the kingdom. But outside the boundary will be the remnants of the gentiles living. There will be wickedness practised,outside. But many of them on the outside will accept the teachings,and they can from year to year come in; to celebrate the feast of tabernacles. When the 1000years are expired satan will be let loose **to draw** all those wicked ones to one place to be destroyed.Satan will go through out the four corners of earth,to draw all the wicked to israel to surround the camp. THE CAMP IS 2240X2240X2240KM. Why a cube? because the fallen angels are not allowed to fly over the camp. (there is a no fly zone). This surrounding of the camp; would be the war of Gog and Magog. This is when all the wicked; and satan,and his angels;will be destroyed. So all the wicked are no more. But there are still the wicked, and good people in the graves;that died; of many generations,from the beginning of mankind,of all sorts of religions and tongues. They also needs to be judged; this is the second judgement. The white throne judgement. They will be judged according to their deeds.The books are opened. The sheep put on the right; and the goats on the left. The sheep will be changed;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are. Now all the bad(wicked) are no more.Only the good left. The *second* dominion will be the whole earth.(for ever). But the earth and the heavens are still poluted,it needs cleaning up by melting it. Then the new heaven and the new earth. Then God will come down. PS: Satan will be locked up;but not his angels. They are still around,but not in the camp. Why? Because the people outside need some resitants. They still have to choose between Good and bad. wakeup.

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I see what you are saying but on this I am not in accord with you ,you make the second resurrection coming at the beginning of the 1000 years what is not in scriptures ,to me the 1000 years is only and exclusively for the righteous believers of old and Christians ,NO UNBELIEVERS ARE THERE,only after the 1000 years and then only for a short time just enough to be tested with the released of Satan and his angel /demons and there own judgement .

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Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,02:36)

Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,21:01) Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,00:44) wakeup Quote JESUS *COMING OUT OF THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN* TO EARTH, TO DESTROY BABYLON,AND SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH.HIS 1000YR REST this seems not right ,to me that is,if the kingdom of Christ is establish then there could be no wickedness remain ever because it is an everlasting kingdom ,so his kingdom can only be finally establish at the end of the judgement of the second resurrection and the destruction of Satan and his supporting wicked people ,what is done just prior to the throwing of DEAD into the lake of fire ;so total peace can only come after those events and not before . Terra. We are on a good thing here. The *first dominion* is the 1000yr kingdom. This will be for a time limit(1000yrs),to teach the jews inside, and the gentiles outside. There will be no wickedness inside the kingdom. But outside the boundary will be the remnants of the gentiles living. There will be wickedness practised,outside. But many of them on the outside will accept the teachings,and they can from year to year come in; to celebrate the feast of tabernacles. When the 1000years are expired satan will be let loose **to draw** all those wicked ones to one place to be destroyed.Satan will go through out the four corners of earth,to draw all the wicked to israel to surround the camp. THE CAMP IS 2240X2240X2240KM. Why a cube? because the fallen angels are not allowed to fly over the camp. (there is a no fly zone). This surrounding of the camp; would be the war of Gog and Magog. This is when all the wicked; and satan,and his angels;will be destroyed. So all the wicked are no more. But there are still the wicked, and good people in the graves;that died; of many generations,from the beginning of mankind,of all sorts of religions and tongues. They also needs to be judged; this is the second judgement. The white throne judgement. They will be judged according to their deeds.The books are opened. The sheep put on the right; and the goats on the left. The sheep will be changed;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are. Now all the bad(wicked) are no more.Only the good left. The *second* dominion will be the whole earth.(for ever). But the earth and the heavens are still poluted,it needs cleaning up by melting it. Then the new heaven and the new earth. Then God will come down. PS: Satan will be locked up;but not his angels. They are still around,but not in the camp. Why? Because the people outside need some resitants. They still have to choose between Good and bad. wakeup. WAKEUP I see what you are saying but on this I am not in accord with you ,you make the second resurrection coming at the beginning of the 1000 years what is not in scriptures ,to me the 1000 years is only and exclusively for the righteous believers of old and Christians ,NO UNBELIEVERS ARE THERE,only after the 1000 years and then only for a short time just enough to be tested with the released of Satan and his angel /demons and there own judgement .

Terra.

No; you have misunderstood me.
The *SECOND COMING*; is the *FIRST* resurrection.
Not the *SECOND* resurrection.

Second coming = first resurrection.

The kingdom will be set up at the *SECOND COMING*,which is the *FIRST RESURRECTION*

THE *SECOND RESURRECTION* IS *AFTER* THE 1000YRS. WHEN THE 1000YRS ARE EXPIRED.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,22:57)

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,02:36) Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,21:01) Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2013,00:44) wakeup Quote JESUS *COMING OUT OF THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN* TO EARTH, TO DESTROY BABYLON,AND SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH.HIS 1000YR REST this seems not right ,to me that is,if the kingdom of Christ is establish then there could be no wickedness remain ever because it is an everlasting kingdom ,so his kingdom can only be finally establish at the end of the judgement of the second resurrection and the destruction of Satan and his supporting wicked people ,what is done just prior to the throwing of DEAD into the lake of fire ;so total peace can only come after those events and not before . Terra. We are on a good thing here. The *first dominion* is the 1000yr kingdom. This will be for a time limit(1000yrs),to teach the jews inside, and the gentiles outside. There will be no wickedness inside the kingdom. But outside the boundary will be the remnants of the gentiles living. There will be wickedness practised,outside. But many of them on the outside will accept the teachings,and they can from year to year come in; to celebrate the feast of tabernacles. When the 1000years are expired satan will be let loose **to draw** all those wicked ones to one place to be destroyed.Satan will go through out the four corners of earth,to draw all the wicked to israel to surround the camp. THE CAMP IS 2240X2240X2240KM. Why a cube? because the fallen angels are not allowed to fly over the camp. (there is a no fly zone). This surrounding of the camp; would be the war of Gog and Magog. This is when all the wicked; and satan,and his angels;will be destroyed. So all the wicked are no more. But there are still the wicked, and good people in the graves;that died; of many generations,from the beginning of mankind,of all sorts of religions and tongues. They also needs to be judged; this is the second judgement. The white throne judgement. They will be judged according to their deeds.The books are opened. The sheep put on the right; and the goats on the left. The sheep will be changed;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are. Now all the bad(wicked) are no more.Only the good left. The *second* dominion will be the whole earth.(for ever). But the earth and the heavens are still poluted,it needs cleaning up by melting it. Then the new heaven and the new earth. Then God will come down. PS: Satan will be locked up;but not his angels. They are still around,but not in the camp. Why? Because the people outside need some resitants. They still have to choose between Good and bad. wakeup. WAKEUP I see what you are saying but on this I am not in accord with you ,you make the second resurrection coming at the beginning of the 1000 years what is not in scriptures ,to me the 1000 years is only and exclusively for the righteous believers of old and Christians ,NO UNBELIEVERS ARE THERE,only after the 1000 years and then only for a short time just enough to be tested with the released of Satan and his angel /demons and there own judgement . Terra. No; you have misunderstood me. The *SECOND COMING*; is the *FIRST* resurrection. Not the *SECOND* resurrection. Second coming = first resurrection. The kingdom will be set up at the *SECOND COMING*,which is the *FIRST RESURRECTION* THE *SECOND RESURRECTION* IS *AFTER* THE 1000YRS. WHEN THE 1000YRS ARE EXPIRED. wakeup.

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No; you have misunderstood me. The *SECOND COMING*; is the *FIRST* resurrection.

right,so there could be no one else on the planet except the righteous ones,and there will be no battle because the earth will be consumed by fire(nature)not war ,just prior of the 1000 years

the only war or battle is after the 1000 years and after the judgement of the second resurrection ,in what i understand in scriptures

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