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  • #349381
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,03:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2013,23:46)
    Armageddon is a spiritual battle.


    Do you read my posts?


    EDJ.

    Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto **the kings of the earth** and **of the whole world**, **to gather them to the battle** of that *great day of God Almighty*.

    Revelation 16:15 Behold, *I come* as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    Revelation 16:16 And he **gathered them together** into a place called in the Hebrew tongue *Armageddon*.

    Revelation 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, **from the throne**, saying, *It is done*.

    Revelation 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a **great earthquake**, such as *was not since men were upon the earth*, so mighty an earthquake, and *so great*.

    Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the **cities of the nations fell**: and *great Babylon* came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    Revelation 16:20 And *every island fled away*, and the *mountains* *were not found*.

    Revelation 16:21 And there fell upon men a **great hail** out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and *men blasphemed God* because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

    1. The kings of the earth and of the whole world.
    2. The battle of the *great day* of God almighty.
    3. Agreat voice from the throne,saying it is done.
    4. A great earthquake such as was not since man was upon the earth.
    5. The great city was devided into three parts.
    6. And the cties of the *NATIONS FELL*.
    7. The cup of the wine of Gods wrath.
    8. Islands fled away,and the mountains were not found.
    9. Great hailsones.

    All that is spiritual a war?

    Please explain.

    wakeup.

    #349408
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2013,02:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2013,23:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 30 2013,23:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2013,21:32)
    The 'dome of the rock' may very well be dismantled in 2023.

                             688 + 1335 = 2023


    EDJ.

    So when will armageddon start?

    wakeup.


    Armageddon is a spiritual battle.


    EdJ.

    Ezekiel 38:14   Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day **when my people of Israel **dwelleth safely**, shalt thou not know it?

     Ezekiel 38:15   And thou shalt come from thy place **out of the north parts**, thou, and many people with thee, all of them *riding upon horses*, **a great company**, and a **mighty army**:

     Ezekiel 38:16   And thou shalt come up *against my people of Israel*, *as a cloud to cover the land*; it shall be in the *latter days*, and *I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

    1. When my people dwell safely? (when is this?)
    2.Out of the north parts? (north?).
    3.Riding upon horses? (spiritual horses?)
    4. A great company?
    5.A mighty army? ( spiritual army?)
    6. Against isreal only?
    7. Against my land?

    How is that a spiritual war?
    That war is against Gods people only; can not be the 3rd ww.
    Please explain.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Israel has not been at war against a islamic federation since 1967. Turkey
    is due north of Israel,  it is from there that the Caliphate will be reinstated.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349419
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,08:07)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2013,02:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2013,23:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 30 2013,23:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2013,21:32)
    The 'dome of the rock' may very well be dismantled in 2023.

                             688 + 1335 = 2023


    EDJ.

    So when will armageddon start?

    wakeup.


    Armageddon is a spiritual battle.


    EdJ.

    Ezekiel 38:14   Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day **when my people of Israel **dwelleth safely**, shalt thou not know it?

     Ezekiel 38:15   And thou shalt come from thy place **out of the north parts**, thou, and many people with thee, all of them *riding upon horses*, **a great company**, and a **mighty army**:

     Ezekiel 38:16   And thou shalt come up *against my people of Israel*, *as a cloud to cover the land*; it shall be in the *latter days*, and *I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

    1. When my people dwell safely? (when is this?)
    2.Out of the north parts? (north?).
    3.Riding upon horses? (spiritual horses?)
    4. A great company?
    5.A mighty army? ( spiritual army?)
    6. Against isreal only?
    7. Against my land?

    How is that a spiritual war?
    That war is against Gods people only; can not be the 3rd ww.
    Please explain.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Israel has not been at war against a islamic federation since 1967. Turkey
    is due north of Israel,  it is from there that the Caliphate will be reinstated.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Thats so weak; Armageddon;the greatest war ever, is israel against the turks. What about your so called spiritual war?

    Why dont you address my seven points?
    starting with one.

    wakeup.

    #349438
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2013,03:32)
    1. The kings of the earth and of the whole world.
    2. The battle of the *great day* of God almighty.
    3. Agreat voice from the throne,saying it is done.
    4. A great earthquake such as was not since man was upon the earth.
    5. The great city was devided into three parts.
    6. And the cties of the *NATIONS FELL*.
    7. The cup of the wine of Gods wrath.
    8. Islands fled away,and the mountains were not found.
    9. Great hailsones.

    Please explain.
    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, OK:

    1) These are the “Kings of the Earth” which are NOT at war with GOD:
        And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten
        of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth' (Rev 1:5)
    2) Armageddon
    3) The Angel poured his vial into the air – that is where the battle takes place.
    4) “Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more,
          signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made,
          that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.” (Heb 12:26-27)
    5) Great red dragon, Antichrist, & False Prophet  <– these are the three parts
    6) Opposition they brought to GOD falls.
    7) “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Rev 18:4)
    8) The opposition scatters
    9) “Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.” (Luke 20:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349500
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2013,03:32)
    1. The kings of the earth and of the whole world.
    2. The battle of the *great day* of God almighty.
    3. Agreat voice from the throne,saying it is done.
    4. A great earthquake such as was not since man was upon the earth.
    5. The great city was devided into three parts.
    6. And the cties of the *NATIONS FELL*.
    7. The cup of the wine of Gods wrath.
    8. Islands fled away,and the mountains were not found.
    9. Great hailsones.

    Please explain.
    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, OK:

    1) These are the “Kings of the Earth” which are NOT at war with GOD:
        And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten
        of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth' (Rev 1:5)
    2) Armageddon
    3) The Angel poured his vial into the air – that is where the battle takes place.
    4) “Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more,
          signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made,
          that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.” (Heb 12:26-27)
    5) Great red dragon, Antichrist, & False Prophet  <– these are the three parts
    6) Opposition they brought to GOD falls.
    7) “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Rev 18:4)
    8) The opposition scatters
    9) “Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.” (Luke 20:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    And you say all that is just a spiritual war?
    Armageddon is a spiritual war.

    1.you say that the kings of the earth are not at war with Christ? *This is the opposite*,for they gather themselves
    together to make war with the Lamb.??

    2.Armageddon; yes; but is it just spiritual?

    3.The great voice from the *throne* is the angels voice?
    You cant be serious.

    4.The great earth quake is the shaking of the earth,Ill accept that.

    5.And the great city is the red dragon,the anti christ, and
    the false prophet? Are you serious?

    REV.11.
    THE GREAT CITY WHERE ALSO OUR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED.
    IS THIS CITY THE DRAGON;THE ANTICHRIST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET ALSO?

    6.The cities of the nations is WHAT?
    Who is they?

    7.The wrath of God is babylons plagues;
    I accept that.

    8.The island fled away; means the opposition scatters?
    Where did you pick up that one?

    9.You are saying that hailstone is the ROCK? IS JESUS?
    THIS MUST BE A JOKE,YOU CANT BE SERIOUS.

    wakeup.

    #349513
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2013,17:20)
    EDJ.

    1.you say that the kings of the earth are not at war with Christ?

    wakeup.


    No I didn't

    #349515
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,23:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 01 2013,17:20)
    EDJ.

    1.you say that the kings of the earth are not at war with Christ?

    wakeup.


    No I didn't


    EdJ.

    You are contradicting scriptures again.

    Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and **of the whole world**, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    It says the kings of the *whole world*.
    why the spin? Are you reading the qur'an?

    wakeup.

    #349518
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Not all of the “Kings of the Earth” at war with GOD and his Christ:
    “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first
    begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth”   (Rev 1:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349524
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,00:52)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Not all of the “Kings of the Earth” at war with GOD and his Christ:
    “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first
    begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth”   (Rev 1:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You mean the scripture *should say*,not all the kings of the earth are at war with God and with christ.
    Because that goes better with your doctrine.
    And you I supoose is one of the kings.

    wakeup.

    #349526
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,02:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,00:52)

    Not all of the “Kings of the Earth” at war with GOD and his Christ:
    “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first
    begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth”   (Rev 1:5)


    EDJ.

    And you I supoose is one of the kings.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Correct

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349551
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,02:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,02:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,00:52)

    Not all of the “Kings of the Earth” at war with GOD and his Christ:
    “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first
    begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth”   (Rev 1:5)


    EDJ.

    And you I supoose is one of the kings.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Correct

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi EdJ.

    King of rock.Or rocks.
    You are really making war with Christ,
    by what you are doing to the scriptures.
    Do you know that?

    wakeup.

    #349564
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,09:58)
    Hi EdJ.

    (1)You are really making war with Christ,
    (2)by what you are doing to the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Not so.
    2) You mean by explaining them to you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349566
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,09:58)
    Hi EdJ.

    King of rock.Or rocks.

    wakeup.


    “The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;” (2Sam 22:2-3 (KJV)

    #349609
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,11:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,09:58)
    Hi EdJ.

    (1)You are really making war with Christ,
    (2)by what you are doing to the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Not so.
    2) You mean by explaining them to you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You are mutilating the scriptures,and feeding it to your flock.
    That is warring against the truth.
    The words that Jesus spoke will judge you at the coming.
    Are you doing it because of ignorance or deliberate?

    wakeup.

    #349635
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,11:21)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,09:58)
    Hi EdJ.

    (1)You are really making war with Christ,
    (2)by what you are doing to the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Not so.
    2) You mean by explaining them to you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You are mutilating the scriptures,and feeding it to your flock.
    That is warring against the truth.
    The words that Jesus spoke will judge you at the coming.
    Are you doing it because of ignorance or deliberate?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
    “Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
     is of any private interpretation.”  (2 Peter 1:20)

    That is what you need to know **FIRST**.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349641
    journey42
    Participant

    Ed

    I agree with Wakeup,
    and Devo agrees with wakeup.
    So far there are three of us here who interpret the scriptures the same.
    I say we agree with wakeup, because he is the one mainly on here.  The one who puts in the most time and effort, and who cares to answer.  We agree with his answers to you, because we understand the same.

    We get a whole different view from the view the churches teach, and to many listeners, they have never heard it the way we explain, which is why we give scripture after scripture with explanations to prove our point.  We are excited about the truth.  The truth that fits, and makes sense with no contradictions or parts missing.   The whole picture.

    Why do you fight Wakeup all the time?
    You can learn so much from all the subjects he's bought up, all the scriptures, all the discussions and points he's made.
    Why not just admit if you have made a mistake?  It's for your benefit.
    Remember God gives grace to the humble but resists the proud.
    We have heard all the doctrines out there, even Colter's, but yours is by far the most unusual because it's based on the bible..  Are you on your own, or do you have others that agree with you?

    #349643
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,16:03)
    Hi Wakeup,

    You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
    “Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
     is of any private interpretation.”  (2 Peter 1:20)

    That is what you need to know **FIRST**.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    And this is proud talk Ed.
    You did not even know what a prophets reward was last year, and kept begging me to tell you.
    Now you use this verse against Wakeup?
    Strange.

    #349646
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2013,17:38)
    Ed

    I agree with Wakeup,
    and Devo agrees with wakeup.


    Hi Journey42,

    You are illustrating 'LOGIC FALLACY'S' #1 and #2…


    (This portion of my post is taken from this Link)

    Three big logic fallacies that I see presented here:  

    1. Opinions: opinions are presented as evidence.
    2. Scenarios: scenarios are presented as proof.
    3. Consensus: consensus is seen as conformation.


    THE FACT THAT YOU AGREE WITH WAKEUP'S  'private interpretation of Prophecy'  ACTUALLY MEANS NOTHING!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349647
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2013,17:38)
    Ed

    Why do you fight Wakeup all the time?

    You can learn so much from all the subjects he's bought up, all the scriptures, all the discussions and points he's made.


    Hi Journey42,

    I'm not fighting Wakeup.
    I have been studying the bible
    for over 40 years, and it doesn't say
    what wakeup has claimed about Prophecy.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #349648
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2013,17:38)
    Ed

    We have heard all the doctrines out there, even Colter's, (1)but yours is by far the most unusual because it's based on the bible..  (2)Are you on your own, or do you have others that agree with you?


    Hi Journey42,

    1) It is good that you see my view fits completely with what “Scripture” teaches.
    2) I'm working on you right now. It's only a matter of time before you will agree
    with me, because “TRUTH” doesn't change; it just WAITS patiently to be heard.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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