The 3 woes.

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Quote (2besee @ April 12 2013,08:20) Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,06:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Hi 2b, How about Jesus and Christ? Peace brother. Hi Abe. I haven't looked at this in ages. I will. Hi Wakeup My stomach churns.

2besse

I mean't to reply on Wakeup's reply.

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Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Hi 2b, How about Jesus and Christ? Peace brother.

That is very close.

The Body of Christ is just that.

The two anointings are the word and the creative power of the Father.

Jesus Himself on earth was of a two fold witness–

Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
Joh 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

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[Wakeup]

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Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,04:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Hi 2b, How about Jesus and Christ? Peace brother. That is very close. The Body of Christ is just that. The two anointings are the word and the creative power of the Father. Jesus Himself on earth was of a two fold witness– Joh 8:16  And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. Joh 8:17  It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. Joh 8:18  I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Res.

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THE 2 WITNESSES:

1. 2men dwelling in jerusalem only.
2. They have powers to stop the rain,and to turn water into
blood.
3.They only have 3/half yrs to preach,to isreal only.
4.They also can produce fire,to kill.
5.They can die,for they will be killed.
6.They have bodies,for their dead bodies will be left
in the open, for all to see,for 3/haf days.
7. After 3/half days,THE SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM GOD
ENTERED THEM,AND THEY STOOD UP; AND WAS TAKEN
UP TO HEAVEN.
8. This is evidance that they are humans,not anointed
words.Anointed words can not die.Can not be killed by
satan.

wakeup.

[abe]

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Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,04:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Hi 2b, How about Jesus and Christ? Peace brother. That is very close. The Body of Christ is just that. The two anointings are the word and the creative power of the Father. Jesus Himself on earth was of a two fold witness– Joh 8:16  And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. Joh 8:17  It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. Joh 8:18  I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Res.

Hi Rest,

Rev.1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful Witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood–

Rev.3:14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:

Rev.18:23 and the light of a lamp will not shine in you (Babylon) any longer; and the Voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery.

Jn.3:27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. 28″You yourselves are my witnesses that I said, I am not the Christ,' but, 'I have been sent ahead of Him.' 29″He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. So this joy of mine has been made full. 30″He must increase, but I must decrease.

Col.2:11 and in Him (Christ) you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the Removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; 12having been buried With Him in baptism, in which You were also raised up With Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together With Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,

Do you think Jesus was considered dead (body) when he received the Holy Spirit?

Rev.12:1-6

Peace brother….

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Quote (Resting @ April 25 2013,15:34) Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,04:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Hi 2b, How about Jesus and Christ? Peace brother. That is very close. The Body of Christ is just that. The two anointings are the word and the creative power of the Father. Jesus Himself on earth was of a two fold witness– Joh 8:16  And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. Joh 8:17  It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. Joh 8:18  I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Res. Hi Rest, Rev.1:5   and from Jesus Christ, the faithful   Witness,   the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood– Rev.3:14   “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true   Witness,   the Beginning of the creation of God, says this: Rev.18:23   and the light of a lamp will not shine in you (Babylon) any longer; and the  Voice  of the   bridegroom and   bride    will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery. Jn.3:27   John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. 28″You yourselves are my witnesses that I said, I am not the Christ,' but, 'I have been sent ahead of Him.' 29″He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. So this joy of mine has been made full. 30″He must increase, but I must decrease. Col.2:11   and in Him (Christ) you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the   Removal of the   body   of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; 12having been buried   With   Him in baptism, in which   You were also raised up   With   Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together With   Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, Do you think Jesus was considered dead (body) when he received the Holy Spirit? Rev.12:1-6 Peace brother….

I am not sure what you are saying Abe.

Jesus received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at His water baptism by John. (not a parrallel to the Red sea crossing but the Jordan)

It was not the baptism of repentence of John.

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Resting. THE 2 WITNESSES: 1. 2men dwelling in jerusalem only.

 Two prophets, not two men.

Rev 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

The bodies who carry them are many men.

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2. They have powers to stop the rain,and to turn water into    blood.

The anointings do, not the men themselves who God sends.

Turning the water to blood only occurs after the resurrection in the vials.

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3.They only have 3/half yrs to preach,to isreal only.

The prophecing is world wide–

Rev 10:11  And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

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4.They also can produce fire,to kill. 5.They can die,for they will be killed.

Gods word is a fire and those killed are not killed until they have commiitted the ultimate rejection of killing the witnesses before the resurrection AND refusing Christ Himself and attempting to destroy His gathering of the righteous as well.

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6.They have bodies,for their dead bodies will be left   in the open, for all to see,for 3/haf days.

Yes the witnesses have many bodies.  They are the prophets of the body of Christ before the resurrection.

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7. After 3/half days,THE SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM GOD    ENTERED THEM,AND THEY STOOD UP; AND WAS TAKEN    UP TO HEAVEN.

Yes in every city where Babylon rules, men see them go up with all previous dead saints in the 7th trumpet.

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8. This is evidance that they are humans,not anointed    words.Anointed words can not die.Can not be killed by      satan.

Yes, the witnesses are human prophets of the body of Christ.

Satan does not kill anyone, he uses men to do that too.

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Quote Resting. THE 2 WITNESSES: 1. 2men dwelling in jerusalem only.  Two prophets, not two men. Rev 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. The bodies who carry them are many men. Quote 2. They have powers to stop the rain,and to turn water into    blood. The anointings do, not the men themselves who God sends. Turning the water to blood only occurs after the resurrection in the vials. Quote 3.They only have 3/half yrs to preach,to isreal only. The prophecing is world wide– Rev 10:11  And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. Quote 4.They also can produce fire,to kill. 5.They can die,for they will be killed. Gods word is a fire and those killed are not killed until they have commiitted the ultimate rejection of killing the witnesses before the resurrection AND refusing Christ Himself and attempting to destroy His gathering of the righteous as well. Quote 6.They have bodies,for their dead bodies will be left   in the open, for all to see,for 3/haf days. Yes the witnesses have many bodies.  They are the prophets of the body of Christ before the resurrection. Quote 7. After 3/half days,THE SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM GOD    ENTERED THEM,AND THEY STOOD UP; AND WAS TAKEN    UP TO HEAVEN. Yes in every city where Babylon rules, men see them go up with all previous dead saints in the 7th trumpet. Quote 8. This is evidance that they are humans,not anointed    words.Anointed words can not die.Can not be killed by      satan. Yes, the witnesses are human prophets of the body of Christ. Satan does not kill anyone, he uses men to do that too. Res. *

Thank you Resting
We are on a different wavelength in this case.
I let the rest here see, and makeup their own minds.

One thing you failed to notice in Zech.4. is that there are two olive *TREES*, and two olive *BRANCHES*.
The olive trees is Gods word(Jesus) of the old and new; and the olive branches are the two witnesses; which will only be on earth for 3/half years.They will preach to israel,but the world can also hear.They will be there during the treading down of Jerusalem for 3/half yrs.

The spirit of life is nothing but the *BREATH* of life wich we all have;good persons and evil persons.
The breath of life is not life itself,which we will be given.

The words that I speak to you they are spirit,it is the spirit that quickens.This is not speaking of the breath of life,which all man have,but life in it self.

wakeup.

wakeup.

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Quote Resting. THE 2 WITNESSES: 1. 2men dwelling in jerusalem only. Two prophets, not two men. Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. The bodies who carry them are many men. Quote 2. They have powers to stop the rain,and to turn water into blood. The anointings do, not the men themselves who God sends. Turning the water to blood only occurs after the resurrection in the vials. Quote 3.They only have 3/half yrs to preach,to isreal only. The prophecing is world wide– Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. Quote 4.They also can produce fire,to kill. 5.They can die,for they will be killed. Gods word is a fire and those killed are not killed until they have commiitted the ultimate rejection of killing the witnesses before the resurrection AND refusing Christ Himself and attempting to destroy His gathering of the righteous as well. Quote 6.They have bodies,for their dead bodies will be left in the open, for all to see,for 3/haf days. Yes the witnesses have many bodies. They are the prophets of the body of Christ before the resurrection. Quote 7. After 3/half days,THE SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM GOD ENTERED THEM,AND THEY STOOD UP; AND WAS TAKEN UP TO HEAVEN. Yes in every city where Babylon rules, men see them go up with all previous dead saints in the 7th trumpet. Quote 8. This is evidance that they are humans,not anointed words.Anointed words can not die.Can not be killed by satan. Yes, the witnesses are human prophets of the body of Christ. Satan does not kill anyone, he uses men to do that too. Res. *

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Thank you Resting We are on a different wavelength in this case. I let the rest here see, and makeup their own minds. One thing you failed to notice in Zech.4. is that there are two olive *TREES*, and two olive *BRANCHES*. The olive trees is Gods word(Jesus) of the old and new; and the olive branches are the two witnesses;

Not two men.

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which will only be on earth for 3/half years.

Not so. The same anointings of Jesus were given to the Apostles.

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They will preach to israel,but the world can also hear.

They witness to all nations–

Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

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They will be there during the treading down of Jerusalem for 3/half yrs.

Jerusalem of stone has been trodden down by nations since before 70 Ad. and will contnue to be until Christ returns to free it of its sinners and give it to those of His choosing, some of which are there now, but only few.

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The spirit of life is nothing but the *BREATH* of life wich we all have;good persons and evil persons. The breath of life is not life itself,which we will be given. The words that I speak to you they are spirit,it is the spirit that quickens.This is not speaking of the breath of life,which all man have,but life in it self. wakeup. wakeup.

Act 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
Act 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

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[abe]

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Quote (abe @ April 26 2013,16:20) Quote (Resting @ April 25 2013,15:34) Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,04:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Hi 2b, How about Jesus and Christ? Peace brother. That is very close. The Body of Christ is just that. The two anointings are the word and the creative power of the Father. Jesus Himself on earth was of a two fold witness– Joh 8:16  And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. Joh 8:17  It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. Joh 8:18  I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Res. Hi Rest, Rev.1:5   and from Jesus Christ, the faithful   Witness,   the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood– Rev.3:14   “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true   Witness,   the Beginning of the creation of God, says this: Rev.18:23   and the light of a lamp will not shine in you (Babylon) any longer; and the  Voice  of the   bridegroom and   bride    will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery. Jn.3:27   John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. 28″You yourselves are my witnesses that I said, I am not the Christ,' but, 'I have been sent ahead of Him.' 29″He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. So this joy of mine has been made full. 30″He must increase, but I must decrease. Col.2:11   and in Him (Christ) you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the   Removal of the   body   of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; 12having been buried   With   Him in baptism, in which   You were also raised up   With   Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together With   Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, Do you think Jesus was considered dead (body) when he received the Holy Spirit? Rev.12:1-6 Peace brother…. I am not sure what you are saying Abe. Jesus received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at His water baptism by John. (not a parrallel to the Red sea crossing but the Jordan) It was not the baptism of repentence of John. Res.

Hi Rest,

* 1st. Death   * 1st. Resurrection

Jn.3:3   Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is    BORN   again (from above)  he cannot see the kingdom of God.”4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he?” 5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of   Water  and the  Spirit  he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6″That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7″Do not be amazed that I said to you, 'You must be BORN  again.’ (from above) 8″The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is  BORN  of the Spirit.”

Rom.6:3   Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His DEATH?    4Therefore we have been   BURIED   With  Him through baptism into  Death,  so that as Christ was raised from the  DEAD  through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in   Newness   of life. 5For if we have become   United   with Him in the  likeness  of His   Death,   certainly we shall also be in the  likeness  of His   Resurrection,   6knowing this, that our old self was crucified   With   Him, in order that our body of sin might be   done away with,   so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7for he who has   Died   is freed from sin.

Col.2:11   and in Him (Christ) you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the   Removal of the   Body   of the Flesh by the circumcision of Christ; 12having been  BURIED   With   Him in Baptism, in which   You were also  Raised  up   With   Him through faith in the working of God, who  Raised  Him from the   DEAD. 13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you   Alive   Together With   Him, forgiven us all our transgressions,

Gal.2:19   “For through the Law   I died   to the Law, so that I might live to God. 20″I have been crucified with Christ; and it is    NO longer  I  who LIVE,    but Christ lives in me; and the [life] which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the   Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

Eph.2:19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are  FELLOW  citizens With the   SAINTS,  and are of God's household, 20having been built on the foundation of the apostles and  Prophets,  Christ Jesus Himself being the corner [stone], 21in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, 22in whom you  also  are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

2Cor.5:17   So   Then,   if anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW CREATION;   what is old has   Passed Away  –look, what is NEW   has   Come!

Gal.6:15   Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the    NEW  CREATION.

Rev.21:1   Then I saw a  NEW  heaven and a  NEW  earth; for the first heaven and the first earth   PASSED AWAY,  and there is no longer any sea. 2And I saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM,    coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is   AMONG   men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any DEATH; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have Passed Away.”

Jn.3:3   Jesus answered and said to him, “TRULY, TRULY,  I say to you, unless one is    BORN    (from above)  he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Peace Brother….

[Wakeup]

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Quote Resting. THE 2 WITNESSES: 1. 2men dwelling in jerusalem only.  Two prophets, not two men. Rev 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. The bodies who carry them are many men. Quote 2. They have powers to stop the rain,and to turn water into    blood. The anointings do, not the men themselves who God sends. Turning the water to blood only occurs after the resurrection in the vials. Quote 3.They only have 3/half yrs to preach,to isreal only. The prophecing is world wide– Rev 10:11  And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. Quote 4.They also can produce fire,to kill. 5.They can die,for they will be killed. Gods word is a fire and those killed are not killed until they have commiitted the ultimate rejection of killing the witnesses before the resurrection AND refusing Christ Himself and attempting to destroy His gathering of the righteous as well. Quote 6.They have bodies,for their dead bodies will be left   in the open, for all to see,for 3/haf days. Yes the witnesses have many bodies.  They are the prophets of the body of Christ before the resurrection. Quote 7. After 3/half days,THE SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM GOD    ENTERED THEM,AND THEY STOOD UP; AND WAS TAKEN    UP TO HEAVEN. Yes in every city where Babylon rules, men see them go up with all previous dead saints in the 7th trumpet. Quote 8. This is evidance that they are humans,not anointed    words.Anointed words can not die.Can not be killed by      satan. Yes, the witnesses are human prophets of the body of Christ. Satan does not kill anyone, he uses men to do that too. Res. *

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Please note:
Rev.11:8. *Their* dead bodies SHALL LIE IN THE STREET OF *THE GREAT CITY*,which spiritually is called sodom and egypt,(indicated as an evil city).
where also our Lord was crucified.(Jerusalem).
Two bodies; not multitudes of bodies.
Two dead bodies will lie in the street,for 3/half *DAYS ONLY*. They can not be intrpreted as spiritual or multitudes.

wakeup.

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Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Study the great city.

[Wakeup]

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Rev 11:9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. Rev 11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Study the great city.

Resting.

Can you show me what city is, where our Lord was crucified?

Babylon the great is a great city,a spiritual city.The world
system of things.
Jerusalem is a great city,where our Lord was crucified.
Our Lord was crucified in a physical city,Jerusalem.
This is not a spiritual city,for all can see their dead bodies lying in the street; not put in graves.
The dead suppose to be buried,in graves.

wakeup.

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Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,14:50) Rev 11:9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. Rev 11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Study the great city. Resting. Can you show me what city is, where our Lord was crucified? Babylon the great is a great city,a spiritual city.The world system of things. Jerusalem is a great city,where our Lord was crucified. Our Lord was crucified in a physical city,Jerusalem. This is not a spiritual city,for all can see their dead bodies lying in the street; not put in graves. The dead suppose to be buried,in graves. wakeup.

Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem.

Heb 13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
Heb 13:11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Heb 13:13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
Heb 13:14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

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The great city–

Nah 3:1 Woe to the bloody city! it is all full of lies and robbery; the prey departeth not;
Nah 3:2 The noise of a whip, and the noise of the rattling of the wheels, and of the pransing horses, and of the jumping chariots.
Nah 3:3 The horseman lifteth up both the bright sword and the glittering spear: and there is a multitude of slain, and a great number of carcases; and there is none end of their corpses; they stumble upon their corpses:
Nah 3:4 Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the wellfavoured harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts.
Nah 3:5 Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts; and I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will shew the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame.
Nah 3:6 And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and make thee vile, and will set thee as a gazingstock.
Nah 3:7 And it shall come to pass, that all they that look upon thee shall flee from thee, and say, Nineveh is laid waste: who will bemoan her? whence shall I seek comforters for thee?

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,15:11) Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,14:50) Rev 11:9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. Rev 11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Study the great city. Resting. Can you show me what city is, where our Lord was crucified? Babylon the great is a great city,a spiritual city.The world system of things. Jerusalem is a great city,where our Lord was crucified. Our Lord was crucified in a physical city,Jerusalem. This is not a spiritual city,for all can see their dead bodies lying in the street; not put in graves. The dead suppose to be buried,in graves. wakeup. Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem. Heb 13:10  We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. Heb 13:11  For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Heb 13:12  Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Heb 13:13  Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. Heb 13:14  For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Resting.

Without the camp,but still in the city.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,22:48)

Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,20:32) Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,15:11) Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,14:50) Rev 11:9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. Rev 11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Study the great city. Resting. Can you show me what city is, where our Lord was crucified? Babylon the great is a great city,a spiritual city.The world system of things. Jerusalem is a great city,where our Lord was crucified. Our Lord was crucified in a physical city,Jerusalem. This is not a spiritual city,for all can see their dead bodies lying in the street; not put in graves. The dead suppose to be buried,in graves. wakeup. Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem. Heb 13:10  We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. Heb 13:11  For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Heb 13:12  Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Heb 13:13  Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. Heb 13:14  For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. Resting. Without the camp,but still in the city. wakeup.

No.

They extended the city to include Golgtha years later.

Christ was crucified outside of the city.

Res.

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Quote (Resting @ April 28 2013,15:32)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,22:48) Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,20:32) Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,15:11) Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,14:50) Rev 11:9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. Rev 11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Study the great city. Resting. Can you show me what city is, where our Lord was crucified? Babylon the great is a great city,a spiritual city.The world system of things. Jerusalem is a great city,where our Lord was crucified. Our Lord was crucified in a physical city,Jerusalem. This is not a spiritual city,for all can see their dead bodies lying in the street; not put in graves. The dead suppose to be buried,in graves. wakeup. Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem. Heb 13:10  We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. Heb 13:11  For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Heb 13:12  Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Heb 13:13  Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. Heb 13:14  For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. Resting. Without the camp,but still in the city. wakeup. No. They extended the city to include Golgtha years later. Christ was crucified outside of the city. Res.

Resting.

Lets see if anyone would agree with your claim.

You need to check out your map;golgotha is inside the wall.

You need to change rev.11:8.***AND THEIR DEAD SHALL LIE **IN THE STREET** OF THE GREAT CITY WHERE ALSO OUR LORD WAS CRICIFIED***.

CHANGE IT TO OUTSIDE THE CITY;IF THAT MAKES YOU HAPPY.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,19:09)

Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What do you think?

Hi 2Besee,

I believe those are the two olive trees in Zech 4:11-14.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ April 12 2013,01:42)

Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,23:15) Abe Elijah and Moses.

Hi Journey42,

Moses and Elijah represent “The Law and The Prophets”. They were seen
with Jesus in the Mount of transfiguration; and here is what they represent…

Were the 10 commandments done away with? Of course NOT! (1John 2:3-4)

Deut.6:1-2 Now these are the “commandments”, the “statutes”, and the “judgments”,
which the LORD(YHVH) your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them
in the land whither ye go to possess it: That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God,
to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and
thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.

The mount of transfiguration illustrates these three.
Moses: The Commandments; “10” Old & “2” New.
Elijah: The Judgments; rewards & punishments.
Jesus: The Statues; Jesus fulfilled the statues
(contained in ordinances), doing away with.
 
                                             
Eph.2:15: Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,
even the law of commandments  contained in ordinances;
for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
So we can see there is difference between “The Law” and ordinances!
10↔2 Has a fractal counterpart: 10 Northern tribes and 2 Southern tribes.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,19:45)

Abe. Jesus received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at His water baptism by John. (not a parrallel to the Red sea crossing but the Jordan) It was not the baptism of repentence of John. Res.

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