The 2nd coming according to the world.

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  • #785470
    terraricca
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    Nick

    to be honest i do not need any of men feeding I have God’s word;

    but you say;

    The verse was the most relevant so you can look up the context

    this is as false at it can be ; everyone of those verses is a true inspiration in Christ teachings and we can write a book on each one of those verses to explain them ,so NO the 46 verse is not a compilation of all the other ones ,starting in 31 ,

    take care

    #785473
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,

    Are you still a ball of distrust and animosity?

    #785480
    terraricca
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    N
    not really ,i just love truth and good communication in the truth

    take care

    #785495
    Devolution
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    Thanks Nick ..

    #785503
    Devolution
    Participant

    Isaiah 11:

    Past

    1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

    2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

    3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

    Jumping forward

    4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

    Isaiah 11:4a But with righteousness shall he judge the poor

    John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

    Christ first came to preach the gospel of the kingdom, which gospel saves

    Isaiah 11:4a (continued) But with righteousness shall he judge the poor

    Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

    Isaiah 11:4b reprove with equity for the meek of the earth

    Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

    Isaiah 11:4c shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked

    Revelation 19:

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    Continue ..

    Isaiah 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

    Isaiah 33:

    5 The LORD is exalted; for he dwelleth on high: he hath filled Zion with judgment and righteousness.

    6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure.

    7 Behold, their valiant ones shall cry without: the ambassadors of peace shall weep bitterly.

    8 The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.

    9 The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.

    10 Now will I rise, saith the LORD; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

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    Isaiah 11:

    6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den.

    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

    Never happened yet .. so the above is still future

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    Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

    The above ensign for the Gentiles

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    Isaiah 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

    12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

    That above ensign however is different .. notice that ensign is for the Israelites .. not the Gentiles this time.

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    Isaiah 11:

    13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.

    14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.

    God will turn things around .. the above hasn’t happened since Christ came the first time either .. 70 ad happened instead .. thus can only be fulfilled from 1948 0nwards .. hasn’t happened yet still .. so still future ..

    .. this future:

    Isaiah 14:

    1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

    2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

    3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

    4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

    5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

    6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

    7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

    8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

    9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

    10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

    11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

    12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

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    Isaiah 11:

    15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.

    The RED SEA ..

    16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.

    This hasn’t happened yet either ..

    So how can it all be fulfilled already?

    Answer ..

    It can’t.

    God bless.

    #785506
    terraricca
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    devo

    just because you do not understand it ,it does not mean it is not already fulfilled ,

    it takes a spiritual mind to understand spiritual things ,is it not ? yes

    tell ,what was the road of the red sea for Israel leaving Egypt ?

    #785518
    Devolution
    Participant

    Hi Terra,

    Been a while ..

    Terra, I suggest you do yourself a favour .. because you either did not read what I wrote, or it went right over your head ..

    I have 3 requests of you ..

    #1- Get access to a MAP ..

    #2-Now look up the “Tongue of the Egyptian Sea”

    (NOTE: God is going to DRY UP that BODY OF WATER for Israel to cross .. like they (Israel) did (like that body of water they once crossed long ago) in the day that God brought them out of Egypt) ..

    He’s not going to part the waters this time .. He is actually going to dry the whole lot up!!

    AND my THIRD request to you ..

    #3- Now look in a mirror .. any mirror .. and with a straight face, say these words .. “Devolution, that has already happened” ..

    And do you know what you would be looking at?

    3 options :

    1 A Liar

    2 A probable mentally disturbed individual (possessed) ..

    3 A very angry little man who will even deny the truth just to spite someone he doesn’t agree with

    Hmm, I’d probably pick # 2 with leanings towards # 3 .. oh and # 1 too .. (Lol .. just kidding) ..

    OR .. OR ..

    You could try something novel and just speak the truth and concede that it hasn’t happened yet ..

    But seriously .. look at a map PLEASE.

    Thanks Terra.

    #785521
    terraricca
    Participant

    Devo,

    I can see we seem never be able to see the same things in scriptures ,their is no map,but I tell you some thing ,

    I am now 74 years old and I am going to move off from forums ,for I have learned what I came for it to know,

    so to be nice have a great day ,and maybe one day we will meet again,

    #785524
    Devolution
    Participant

    Hi Terra,

    Just type in “Map for the Tongue of the Egyptian Sea” and you will find it straight away .. it’s pretty cool and you’ll recognise it as soon as you see it ..

    It’s called the tongue because the land mass which juts into the ocean actually looks like a tongue from the air .. we are obviously dealing with the western side mass of water known as the Red Sea since that is the side the Israelites had to cross ..

    Oh and Terra, when you “move off from forums” (again) .. I’ll just wait a day or two and chat with you then ok 🙂

    You have a good day and don’t take my stirring you up personally okay .. I like being sarcastically cheeky when I joke around is all ..

    #786349
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi Cam,

    I believe what scripture says.

    Mt 25.46

    Do you not?

    Hi Nick.

    Mt 25:46. These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

    So, Nick, what is the wages of sin? Death, right. Salvation from death is possible, the free gift from God is eternal life. The opposite of eternal life is eternal death. Thus, the punishment (death) is eternal. There is no life in death. Why do you still believe in eternal conscious torment, Nick?

    #786361
    Devolution
    Participant

    Hi Camilla,

    I agree, good reply.

    God bless.

    #786381
    NickHassan
    Participant

    HiCam,

    Your rationalisations do not match what is written.

     

    #786504
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    A fine theory.

    but from your imagination.

    #786506
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    This mystery is yours not scripture’s.

    When will you teach what is written?

    #786524
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Are you a child of Zion or a brother of the Lord?

    #786540
    Camillia
    Participant

    HiCam,

    Your rationalisations do not match what is written.

     

    Nick, I am getting to you, haven’t forgotten.

    Thanks Devolution 🙂

    #786742
    Camillia
    Participant

    HiCam,

    Your rationalisations do not match what is written.

    Hi Nick. Did God give a mind to use, and a heart? What do you think will happen to all those people in hell, if you believe it is eternal, and they never die?

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