The 2nd coming according to the world.

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  • #780690
    Camillia
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    Hi Wakeup.

    Thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as in heaven.

    That is now. Not to all, but to those who perceive God in their lives, imo.

    1.Who are the saints to rule over in heaven? Are saints to rule over saints?

    I leave that up to God who knows everything.

    2.Born of the flesh means exactly that; born of the flesh;

    That which is born of the flesh is flesh… I understand that perfectly. If i want to give birth to sin and disobedience and lusts of the flesh, I can.

    no need to look for other meanings.

    Jesus often spoke in ways they could not understand.

    5. All God’s teachings are of the spiritual.

    Not only God’s teachings but also his presence in our lives.

    6.The Word revelation means exactly that ; to reveal ; not to hide.

    As revealed to John in the spirit. Why do we need to place a physical view to the spiritual?

    Are you learning Camillia?

    I am open minded, and listen to others to get their perspective, and I hear you Wakeup. . But there are some views I stay firm on.

    Are you willing to learn new things?

    #780698
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Camillia.

    The book of revelation is revealed to John ,and also for us to be prepared.

    Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
    BLESSED IS HE THAT READETH, NOT BLESSED ARE THEY THAT IGNORE IT.
    BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE READY,BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.NOT BEING AWAKE.
    Prophesies prepare us for what is coming. It tells us when the flood is coming, so we have time to flea up the mountain.
    We should not wait for the flood to come first.
    Keep your mind open only to what scriptures say.
    Christians have been filled with a different doctrine.
    Contradictory to the scriptures. You will see as we go along.

    Shalom.
    wakeup.

    #780716
    Camillia
    Participant

    Wakeup, Most people read the book of Revelation, but have different understandings thereof.

    We should always be ready.

    #780727
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Camellia.

    Yes I agree; just as Jesus spoke in parables, so the wicked can not understand.

    The apostles could not understand until the Holy spirit was given to them at pentecost.

    All  prophesies must be interpreted in harmony .

    Each prophecy must fit into the next. There must not be any contradictions.

    This is how one can tell which interpretation is the correct one.

    We must not ignore prophesies because most are interpreted in error.

    The book of revelation has revealed it to them that seek in truth.

    And must compere them with the old prophesies, and find the harmony.

    Old and new is the same Word of God, and He is the same yesterday; today and forever.

    Yes we should always be ready; and also must know to be ready for what; and when it is coming.

    Great evil deceptions will come to us before the coming; and many will be deceived, and fall.

    Because of lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge, because the hunger for knowledge is not there.

    Remember this; the shepherds that lead the flocks are for hire. They are as greedy wolves, never have enough.

    The flock should know this, and not follow them. They have become a great stumbling block to the truth.

     

    wakeup.

    #780754
    Camillia
    Participant

    Wakeup, Those who separate themselves from the world’s ways are not as easily deceived, imo, so long as they have a good relationship with God.

     

     

    #780806
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Camillia.

    This is true, because in the city of God dwelleth many angels of God.

    We have to know the enemy and his evil tricks.

    He never stop tempting, especially the God fearing.

    He is like a roaring lion waiting whom he can devour.

    Take care.

    wakeup.

    #780811
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Cam

    WU talks a lot about having the key to understanding

    but he does not have it.

    #780859
    Camillia
    Participant

    Camillia.
    This is true, because in the city of God dwelleth many angels of God.

    We have to know the enemy and his evil tricks.

    He never stop tempting, especially the God fearing.

    He is like a roaring lion waiting whom he can devour.

    Take care.

    wakeup.

    Hi Wakeup. What would you consider the devils tricks?

    #780860
    Camillia
    Participant

    Hi Cam

    WU talks a lot about having the key to understanding

    but he does not have it.

    Still nice to talk to people, Nick. I’m not here to debate.

    #780875
    terraricca
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    Camillia

    Still nice to talk to people, Nick. I’m not here to debate.

    I can see that you do not swallow all the things wup throws at you, that is a good thing,for he does not answer easily to the others questions,talks like he knows but does he really ?

    you seem more instructed than he is ,

    #780933
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    I know that you can not swallow, because it is too bitter to take.
    Keep on swallowing the sweet stuff. But you will vomit it all out one day.
    Those scribes also can not swallow the bitter pill.
    Many are called, but a few chosen. This is a true saying.
    Can not, should not, be changed.
    I will take you, ONE OF A CITY,AND TWO OF A FAMILY.

    Jeremiah 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
    TWO IN BED; ONE WILL BE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT. TWO IN A FIELD,ONE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT.
    THERE WILL BE NO MAJOR RESURRECTION OF THE ONE GENERATION; BUT OF THE MANY GENERATIONS.
    BECAUSE THE LAND IS DESOLATE. THE FURTER INTO THE FUTURE;THE MORE DESOLATE.

    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, EVEN UNTIL THE CONSUMATION, and that determined SHALL BE POURED UPON THE DESOLATE.

    Shalom.
    wakeup.

    #781298
    Camillia
    Participant

    TWO IN BED; ONE WILL BE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT. TWO IN A FIELD,ONE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT.

    Wakeup, who will be taken where?

    #781301
    Ed J
    Participant

    Camellia.

    Are you walking in the spirit of Christ in truth now?

    If you do; then you will rule in the kingdom of God after the resurrection.

    Hi Wakeup,

    Jesus said the kingdom of God was at hand – “At hand” means not far off.
    “At hand” does NOT mean ‘is now available’ but is far off as you are suggesting.

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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    ”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GOD

    #781304
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I suggest you get a Strong’s Concordance so you can look up the meanings of words instead of guessing at their meanings.

    ___________
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    ”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GOD

    #781308
    terraricca
    Participant

    wakeup

    Terra.

    I know that you can not swallow, because it is too bitter to take.
    Keep on swallowing the sweet stuff. But you will vomit it all out one day.
    Those scribes also can not swallow the bitter pill.
    Many are called, but a few chosen. This is a true saying.
    Can not, should not, be changed.
    I will take you, ONE OF A CITY,AND TWO OF A FAMILY.

    Jeremiah 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
    TWO IN BED; ONE WILL BE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT. TWO IN A FIELD,ONE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT.
    THERE WILL BE NO MAJOR RESURRECTION OF THE ONE GENERATION; BUT OF THE MANY GENERATIONS.
    BECAUSE THE LAND IS DESOLATE. THE FURTER INTO THE FUTURE;THE MORE DESOLATE.

    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, EVEN UNTIL THE CONSUMATION, and that determined SHALL BE POURED UPON THE DESOLATE.

    Shalom.
    wakeup.

    what i said was the truth ;others see it too,

    and for the rest of your comment you do not scare me with your ignorance ;i know for a fact that you have more of that stuff than i do ,but keep it ;i do not want it ;trust me you can keep what is yours ,no heart feelings

    #781323
    Wayne
    Participant

    The kingdom of God is at hand for every generation.

    Why?

    Because our lives are but a brief passing in the overall grand scheme.

    Not only that, in its specificity, millions of that particular generation Christ directly uttered those words to .. were killed some mere forty years later in 70 ad .. assuredly it was at hand for that bulk group!!

    Just like it is for all of us ..

    It would be prudent to remember .. That the majority of people who die were still making plans for “next week”

    The kingdom was definitely at hand for them likewise!

    Thank you.

     

     

     

    #781333
    Camillia
    Participant

    TWO IN BED; ONE WILL BE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT. TWO IN A FIELD,ONE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT.

     

    Wakeup, Who will be taken Where?

    #781334
    Camillia
    Participant

    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate

     

    Hi Wakeup.

    This has been fulfilled. Are you saying this is  future?

    #781341
    Camillia
    Participant

    camellia.

    Yes it is true.
    The temple has been build. History.
    The messiah cut off. History.
    The temple destroyed. History.
    Only one thing is still going on to today; Desolation are determent until the consummation.

    Two working in the field; one taken and the other left.
    Two in bed, one taken and the other left.
    Taken, as changed in a wink of an eye.

    wakeup.

    Hi Wakeup. (Sorry, I have to reply to you here because I can’t really see what I’m writing in the other place).

    Those who are taken away are similar to those who were taken away in the flood, as the scriptures say. Those taken away were destroyed. Those remaining (alive) afterwards will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.

    #781342
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Camellia.

    I have to go to believers place first, and then to prophecy;   to get here.

    The one taken will be the one resurrected. The one left will be the one left on earth.

    There will be no flood of water on the earth anymore because of God’s promise to Abraham.

    Desolation will be until the consummation.  Until the coming.

    The Roman church has taken over the church after the 2nd temple was destroyed.

    And she brought fort many daughters through her ministers, which are the many churches.

    All teaching error, to block the way to the truth. This is the reason for the desolation.

     

    Cheers.

    wakeup.

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