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- March 17, 2014 at 10:41 pm#373922WakeupParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,07:26) Hi j42,
Priests relate to God and kings dispense God's justice to men.
Who is to say which is higher?God will teach
Nick.??
God teaches men through the HS,
and men teaches men, by the HS.wakeup.
March 17, 2014 at 10:41 pm#373923journey42ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,07:26) Hi j42,
Priests relate to God and kings dispense God's justice to men.
Who is to say which is higher?God will teach
Hi NickAll who will possess the kingdom are called God's Jewels.
Some Jewels shine brighter than others,
but all are jewels.
There will be no jealousy in the kingdom,
as each will be assigned a job to do.
Every kingdom has to have order,
and order comes from God.
Christ will chose that order
and not us.March 17, 2014 at 10:47 pm#373924NickHassanParticipantHi j42,
Exactly but two roles are specified.March 17, 2014 at 10:47 pm#373925NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Yes the Spirit teaches from within 1jn2.27March 18, 2014 at 3:23 am#373959journey42ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,09:47) Hi j42,
Exactly but two roles are specified.
Hi NickYes well all the saints will rule with Christ.
We know that all that are accepted into the kingdom,
will be made “perfect”
I presume “perfect” will be made of “perfect” wisdom also.
the saints who have only had a little measure of the holy spirit, and not the full measure, have to be corrected where they erred in doctrinal matters.
…and they will be corrected, for the lamb will teach them.
so possibly all will become priests (teachers)
to teach those survivors who do not know.March 18, 2014 at 3:42 am#373960NickHassanParticipantHi j42,
I am sure the inner teacher will do the teaching work
They will need man to teach themLikewise it is the Spirit Who perfects
March 25, 2014 at 6:52 pm#374850NickHassanParticipantHi,
John spoke with one of the elders several times.March 25, 2014 at 6:57 pm#374851NickHassanParticipanthi,
rev 5.5 and rev 7.13
John did not recognise them as men of old etcMarch 25, 2014 at 7:32 pm#374852NickHassanParticipantHi,
Yet John in the same book recognised angelsRev 22
8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
March 26, 2014 at 4:59 pm#374926WakeupParticipantMatthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them,
***Verily I say unto you***,(apostles). That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall ***sit in the throne of his glory***,
***ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones***, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.They are the twelve.The other twelve we dont know.
Could be twelve prophets. For there are twenty four elders.wakeup.
March 26, 2014 at 6:18 pm#374935NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
So was John speaking with himself or Peter or James??
And he did not know them??March 26, 2014 at 9:26 pm#374967WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,05:18) Hi WU,
So was John speaking with himself or Peter or James??
And he did not know them??
Nick.John just saw 24 elders; He did not describe their faces.
He must be amongst them in the vision.
He must have been resurrected soon after,and sit amongst them.wakeup.
March 26, 2014 at 9:30 pm#374969NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
So you are sure about your speculation?
Now it gets more complex?John spoke with one of the elders
March 26, 2014 at 9:33 pm#374972WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,08:30) Hi WU,
So you are sure about your speculation?
Now it gets more complex?John spoke with one of the elders
Nick.Two plus two=four. UNLESS JOHN WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED AN ELDER.
wakeup.
March 26, 2014 at 9:51 pm#374975NickHassanParticipanthi WU,
Based on your speculation John could have spoken with himselfMarch 26, 2014 at 11:27 pm#375010WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,08:51) hi WU,
Based on your speculation John could have spoken with himself
That does not make any sense.
John said:one of the elders.
Revelation of the unsealing is of the future to John;
He was still alive in the flesh.He must have died soon after.
Usually when a person has finished the job given to him,
he will die.His purpose is on earth is fulfilled.wakeup.
March 27, 2014 at 12:44 am#375028NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Scripture does not say they were men, apostles or prophets
But you can?On what written evidence?
March 27, 2014 at 2:44 am#375054WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,11:44) Hi WU,
Scripture does not say they were men, apostles or prophets
But you can?On what written evidence?
What is the use of responding if you dont bother to read?Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them,
***Verily I say unto you***(APOSTLES);
*** That *ye* which have followed me***,
in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the
throne of his glory,***ye also shall sit upon *twelve* thrones***,
judging the twelve tribes of Israel.TWELVE THRONES WE KNOW.I SAY, JOHN WOULD BE INCLUDED.UNLESS YOU THINK OTHERWISE.
THE OTHER TWELVE WOULD BE SPECULATION.
COULD BE TWELVE PROPHETS??wakeup.
March 27, 2014 at 2:50 am#375055NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Lk22
Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
The kingdom will be on earth .
That is where those thrones shall be.The seats in heaven do not relate
.Revelation 4:10
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,March 27, 2014 at 3:02 am#375062NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
This in ON EARTH
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