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Hi LM and welcome!
If not men, then what do you think they are? I've never really pondered this to be honest.
Glad you're here
Thanks. I guess they are “elders”. I am sure that John was just as confused, but he simply labeled them as was revealed.
All I know is that they aren't redeemed men, and they don't represent the church.
Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 09 2007,16:28) Oh just a quick thought came to mind about the Beasts.. We have the …
Lion – Lord of all the Wild animals
Ox – Lord of all the Domestic animals
Eagle – Lord of all the Flying animals
Man – Lord of all the HumansThen where is the Lord of all the Sea Animals??
Pyou are right but the eagle and fish was created the same day ,
it could be that both are represented by the eagle ,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 09 2007,13:54) Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 08 2007,20:37) Hi I think I would agree with Cubes. I think they are the ones that walked with God whilst on Earth. Adam, Enoch etc… meaning those that were on earth before Jesus came.
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Phoenix
Hi P,
Why 24?
Why only 24?
Why does it not say men?
Why could John not identify them as individual men as he had done when Jesus was transfigured?
What right do men have to be in heaven?The Son of man said he was the only one who had been there.
Nthe 24 elders are a representation of the 24 high priest who served in the temple each for 15 days ,this made 24 elders (high priest for the year)
Hi:
Kings and priests?
Quote 1Pe 2:9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Love in Christ,
MartyAnd this:
Quote Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,06:43) Hi 94,
Kings and priests are not representations
of kings and priests.
Hi Nick:My point is that based on these scriptures, the elders are men.
Also, what is the definition of “elder” as it relates to someone in the church?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,07:38) Hi 94,
We already are kings and priests in the mind of God ready to serve in the millenium.
Hi Nick:Are we not serving him now?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ May 06 2012,07:34) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,06:43) Hi 94,
Kings and priests are not representations
of kings and priests.
Hi Nick:My point is that based on these scriptures, the elders are men.
Also, what is the definition of “elder” as it relates to someone in the church?
Love in Christ,
Marty
The 24 elders,who are they?Mat.19:28. And Jesus said unto them,verily I say unto you,that ye which have followed me,in this generation when the son of man shall sit in his throne of his glory,YE ALSO SHALL SIT UPON 12 THRONES,JUDGING THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL.
That is part of the mystery answered.
The other 12. I suppose is non of our business.
Just as Jesus told Peter,concerning judas.
John 21:21.22.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,05:20) Hi,
I suggest these are angelic
Nick.They are the elders.
The twelve apostles for sure.
The other twelve could be the prophets.?wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,09:27) Hi WU,
So some men are in heaven while others sleep in the earth?
Are you able to back this up?
Mat.19:28. And Jesus said unto them,verily
**I say unto you*,(the apostles) that
**ye which have followed me**,
**in this generation**
when the son of man shall sit in his throne of his glory,
**YE ALSO SHALL SIT UPON 12 THRONES,JUDGING THE 12
TRIBES OF ISRAEL**.The twenty four elders are in heaven to witness the opening of the 7 seals.rev.4.5.6.
wakeup.
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