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  • #75555
    Stu
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 20 2007,19:55)
    Hi Stu,
    Load of old cobblers then if you have no faith in it?


    If I had to believe it on faith alone then you would be justified in calling it cobblers.

    Stuart

    #75580
    IM4Truth
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    Stu Do you have faith that when you go to sleep tonight that in the morning you are going to wake up?

    #75583
    Stu
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    Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 21 2007,03:48)
    Stu Do you have faith that when you go to sleep tonight that in the morning you are going to wake up?


    Hi IM4Truth

    No, you don't need faith to believe you will wake up tomorrow. There is plently of evidence to indicate that it will happen, not least the fact that you have woken up every other morning before.

    Medical examiners can estimate the probability of an airline pilot having a heart attack within the coming year (I think your risk has to be less than 1% for you to hold your commercial ticket, could be wrong on that), so if that can be done, I'm sure it is possible, if very difficult, to work out the probability that you will wake up tomorrow.

    There is no guarantee you wll wake, obviously, but the likelihood is not based on faith. If you think there is another aspect of my life you think I might base on faith, I would like to hear about it. I challenged people to think about this before, but there were no good responses.

    Stuart

    #75585
    NickHassan
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    Hi Stu,
    So 99% is OK ? You certainly have a strong faith in yourself and your own perceptions.

    #75589
    Stu
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2007,05:00)
    Hi Stu,
    So 99% is OK ? You certainly have a strong faith in yourself and your own perceptions.


    I like to think for me personally at the moment it is higher than 99%, but I still don't see what faith has to do it when you can use evidence to calculate the probability. Faith is belief without evidence ('things unseen”).

    Stuart

    #75590
    NickHassan
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    Hi Stu,
    You like to be in control of your life?
    Knowledge gives you the false security and the delusion that you are.
    Another is the One in charge of that issue and He hopes you will find the fountain of life before your bucket falls to the bottom of the well.
    Ecc 12, Jn 12

    #75734
    Son of Light
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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2007,05:09)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2007,05:00)
    Hi Stu,
    So 99% is OK ? You certainly have a strong faith in yourself and your own perceptions.


    I like to think for me personally at the moment it is higher than 99%, but I still don't see what faith has to do it when you can use evidence to calculate the probability.  Faith is belief without evidence ('things unseen”).

    Stuart


    Hebrews 11

    1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    Faith is NOT supposed to be blind. Unfortunately, many Christians think this.

    Faith has the need for Evidence as Hebrews 11:1 demonstrates.

    #75744
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi SOL,
    The evidence is written on our hearts.

    #75768
    Son of Light
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2007,04:37)
    Hi SOL,
    The evidence is written on our hearts.


    True, that is ONE form of evidence, I agree.

    #75781
    kenrch
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    Quote (Son of Light @ Dec. 22 2007,06:57)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2007,04:37)
    Hi SOL,
    The evidence is written on our hearts.


    True, that is ONE form of evidence, I agree.


    The problem remains Whet is written in out heart? Who's to say what is God's word for today?

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