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I discovered the website with a Google search on “trinity”. The Lord Jesus (Yeshua) showed me by His Spirit that we have “one God” and “one Jesus”. He opened my eyes to some aspects of the false trinity doctrine. My excitement about this new revelation has grown over the last few months but sharing it with believers is constantly met with significant resistance.
I found the writer's (on the topic of the trinity) insight so refreshing and I was so delighted to meet exactly the same truths that I can't help but to thank him for the feeling of oneness (in contrast to the rejection caused by some)
I would like to add a few thoughts:
1.The son of perdition (2 Thes 2) is in the temple already and exalting himself above all that is God. This false “son” is to be revealed soon (don't know when) but clearly the temple he is sitting in, is the body of believers (Defined to be the body of Christ and the temple of the living God) and the “son” is the product of a lie amongst the body of believers which says; “I want to be worshipped”. In contrast the true Son says; “True worshippers will worship the Father…” He also declared “I am the way, the truth…” and “no one comes to the Father but by me”. My reasoning and point is this:
2.The antichrist's teaches that Jesus did not come in the flesh. This fasle doctrine is incorporated in the trinity doctrine which says Yeshua and Yehowah is one and the same person. The trinitarians obvously don’t see this because it also teaches that the son became a man (which is true) The combination of lie and truth masquerades the lie. According to scripture however, Jehowah is “not a man”. He is, according to John 8 “spirit” and Christ has been resurected and risen as a man and is sitting at the right hand of the father. He will return as the “son of man” The spirit of the anti christ is thus working amongst believers (if I could call them that) and by declaring God the Father equal and co-existing to the Son, these “believers” have no difficulty in worshipping this “trinity” God but in doing so, they don’t realize that they are actually worshipping the son of pedision.
Thanks so much for publishing the truth.JPR Welcome to this Website. You will find that there are some that still believe in the trinity Doctrine. But also that do not. I do not. My Husband and I came out of the Catholic Church. Come out of Her my People the Bible teaches, so if you still in a Church that teaches the trinity I advice you to come out of Her. May God be with you in the search for the truth.
Peace and Love Mrs.I used to worship the God as presented to me by the Protestants. This God was a creation of my own mind and I don't want to blame any church or denomination for that false God. Fact of the matter is, I met the real God through His Son and I don't worship that God any longer. I was led “out of her” but recently made the mistake of partaking in the services of a charismatic group. Despite the voice of my Master “not to go back”, I justified my actions by reasoning that I am not “part of them”, just attending because I “may make a difference”. I did not take part in the worship (Just stood there with my mouth full of teeth – as the saying goes). They do not even know that I worship a different God yet – but I already regret my actions.
Strange how the truth seems to bring that separation and how the gap grows bigger and bigger. (First being born again, then baptism, then the law on your heart, then …. – you realize the God is also different) Makes me all think of the wheat and the tares; difficult to know the differences in the beginning but as one matures, so does the differences.Hi JPR,
Quote Strange how the truth seems to bring that separation and how the gap grows bigger and bigger.
And strange how love leads to isolation. There are songs written about this stuff.
I hear ya though. We want fellowship with other believer's and if you are like me, I love a good charismatic church service (it's what I was raised on). Sometimes I wonder if it isn't unreasonable to believe that we can all worship together even if they are promoting a certain dogma. I know other's here do not believe so, but I wonder. I think it might be…..
Hope to hear more from you!
MandyThat's nice, Mandy. I am also brought from a pentecostal Church but I really enjoy their worship irrespetive of my differences with them from my beliefs in non-trinitarianism. We should have fellowship with God's children as you rightly told otherwise we will be isolated and loose the wormth.
Hi JPR, you can attend any type of worship as long as you are not so much involved in their activities and beliefs.
Welcome again to this wonderful family of God in this Forum “Heavennet”
AdamHi JPR-
Your gratitude sounds a lot like mine did about 4-5 years ago. The trinity was a huge issue for me. It was not the last issue, though. There have been and will be many more. The Father will constantly ask us to choose over what is comfortable or what is Him. This happens many ways. He is good at what He does.:D
Welcome JPR,
I too am a trinitarian outcast and feel the seperation. I continue to go to a Baptist church because my husband is a trinitarian and I agree with a lot of the ideas. I personally believe that if a church agrees that the original scriptures of the Bible are infalliable and they recognize the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit as our authority then it is better than nothing.So, do you believe that the Son of God was merely a man and was not living before He was conceived? That is a big issue on here.
God bless,
LUQuote (Shania @ June 14 2008,19:15) you can find “baby shania” on page 12 of the Trinity forum:D
Hi Shania,
Thanks for that.
Have you resolved the questions you posed then?
When your heart is for God then falsehoods become increasingly intolerable.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2008,00:37) Quote (Shania @ June 14 2008,19:15) you can find “baby shania” on page 12 of the Trinity forum:D
Hi Shania,
Thanks for that.
Have you resolved the questions you posed then?
When your heart is for God then falsehoods become increasingly intolerable.
Yes, I have. It was and will always be a journey.Quote: [So, do you believe that the Son of God was merely a man and was not living before He was conceived? That is a big issue on here.]
Shania, I do not find the topic elsewhere, here is my answer to this question. Not sure if I miss something.
The Son of God had been in the world before His coming in the flesh (Heb 1:6) He then had the glory (Joh 17:5) and form of God (Php 2:6) which gave him equality with God. (Php 2:6).Yeshua (Not called Yeshua then) was the first born of creation (Col 1:15). He existed since the beginning of time (1 Jn 1:1) and He was the beginning of time (Rev 22:1). He was created in the first instance as Wisdom (Prov 8:22). He reflected the Father’s image as first born of the creation (Col 1:15). After his birth, He was instrumental in the rest of creation (Heb 1:2). He was propably part of the “us” who created man (Gen 1:26) and the Angel who spoke to Moses from the burning bush (Ex 3:2). He was the “arm” of God in Isa 53:1 and He was the Living Word (Acts 7:38) of God to Israel. (Rom 3:2)
When God brought His first born for the second time into the world, (Heb 1:6) He changed form to that of a servant (Php 2:6) and was called Yeshua. (Matt 1:21)
Hi JPR,
Heb 1.6
6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.Surely this was in Bethlehem?
Quote (JPR @ June 09 2008,09:34) I discovered the website with a Google search on “trinity”. The Lord Jesus (Yeshua) showed me by His Spirit that we have “one God” and “one Jesus”. He opened my eyes to some aspects of the false trinity doctrine. My excitement about this new revelation has grown over the last few months but sharing it with believers is constantly met with significant resistance.
I found the writer's (on the topic of the trinity) insight so refreshing and I was so delighted to meet exactly the same truths that I can't help but to thank him for the feeling of oneness (in contrast to the rejection caused by some)
I would like to add a few thoughts:
1.The son of perdition (2 Thes 2) is in the temple already and exalting himself above all that is God. This false “son” is to be revealed soon (don't know when) but clearly the temple he is sitting in, is the body of believers (Defined to be the body of Christ and the temple of the living God) and the “son” is the product of a lie amongst the body of believers which says; “I want to be worshipped”. In contrast the true Son says; “True worshippers will worship the Father…” He also declared “I am the way, the truth…” and “no one comes to the Father but by me”. My reasoning and point is this:
2.The antichrist's teaches that Jesus did not come in the flesh. This fasle doctrine is incorporated in the trinity doctrine which says Yeshua and Yehowah is one and the same person. The trinitarians obvously don’t see this because it also teaches that the son became a man (which is true) The combination of lie and truth masquerades the lie. According to scripture however, Jehowah is “not a man”. He is, according to John 8 “spirit” and Christ has been resurected and risen as a man and is sitting at the right hand of the father. He will return as the “son of man” The spirit of the anti christ is thus working amongst believers (if I could call them that) and by declaring God the Father equal and co-existing to the Son, these “believers” have no difficulty in worshipping this “trinity” God but in doing so, they don’t realize that they are actually worshipping the son of pedision.
Thanks so much for publishing the truth.
I don't know if there is a “trinity”, but remember that God has been plural from the very beginning: “let US make man in OUR image.”Remember that we are made in His image.
Remember that the devil copies God, and in the end, he will have his “trinity”: Dragon, Beast and False Prophet, and they will give breath to the “image” of the beast, just like God gave breath to His own image: man.
We are made in God's image: Spirit, Soul and Body.
Elohim is a plural word. Any Hebrew word ending in “-im” is plural. Elohim means “Gods”.
When God created Trees bearing fruit, He put forth an expression of Himself: You have the mature tree, the Father, and it has fruit, the Son.
Remember John 1:1 says that the Word (Jesus) was with God and WAS God.
When we say God, we really mean that one being who is tri-partite, just as we are.
People just call me (all three of me), “Daniel”, but if I am missing my spirit, or if I am missing my soul, or if I am missing my body, something is not going to be right.
The Father is the soul of God.
“…and man became a living soul.”Hope this clears everything up.
Be especially careful with Hebrew roots stuff, since this type of fallacy already occurred in the early church when Jews wanted to Judaize everybody. I kind of fell into the same thing myself. Just because its Jewish doesn't make it right – although I have a supernatural love for Jews.
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