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- July 20, 2010 at 11:08 pm#205221shimmerParticipant
How do we understand if we are being tested? If we are shown something in our heart even with prayer yet it seems to go against scripture? Example to leave a Husband if through prayer it seems it is what we are to do though scripture speaks that unless for adultery this should not occur.
Gen 22:1-2 “Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” He said, “Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.”
Deut 13:3 “The Lord your God is testing you to see if you truely love Him with all your heart and soul.”
Job 1:12 “All right, you may test him,” the Lord said to Satan. “Do whatever you want with everything he possesses, but don’t harm him physically.” So Satan left the Lord’s presence.”
Psa 26:2 “Put me on trail, Lord, & crossexamine me. Test my motives & my heart”
– James 1:13-16 ” Let no one say when he is Tempted, “I am Tempted by God”; for God cannot be Tempted by Evil, nor does He Himself Tempt anyone. But each one is Tempted when he is drawn away by his own Desires and Enticed. Then, when Desire has Conceived, it gives Birth to Sin; and Sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth Death. Do Not be Deceived, my beloved brethren.”
July 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm#205320RokkaManParticipantGood question, I am in the same dillema so maybe we can help eachother.
One thing i've come to understand, is that…
As a christian, following the bible will produce good fruit in your life.
God doesn't necissarily say, BE GOOD OR I WILL PUNISH YOU.
Instead he sounds more like, BE GOOD BECAUSE BAD COMES WITH CONSEQUENCES. AND YOU WILL HAVE TO SUFFER THEM.
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In a relationship, one thing I learned is that…your significant other may not be on the same christian level you are on.Sometimes your spouse may not even be christian.
So when there is a situation that puts you on the verge of splitting up, as a christian, it's your duty to fight through it and be better if the situation isn't adultery.
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The problem is, your spouse who isn't a christian or is a “baby christian” may not be attempting to be christ-like in the situation.
So even though you want to reconcile, they don't.
and the bad situation continues up till the verge of splitting up.
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Marriage is a reflection of our relationship with God.
Even though we continually violate and offend God and his law…he fights to stay with us.
He can only keep us, as long as we are willing to stay.
It is when we give up, that the relationship is severed and we are condemned.
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In the same understanding, it's the fight you have to endure, no matter how much you're offended…as a child of God, you should always be ready to accept, receive, forgive and forget one's trangessions.
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The reason God doesn't want us to continue in a marriage violated by adultery is because we're not God….we're human.
We can say we forgive someone for something like that, and i'm sure it's been done.
but by nature, it leaves a scar that I don't think God wants any human to endure.
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but i'm straying….point of what I'm saying is…
As a christian, you should fight to win back the love that was present early in the relationship, don't give up, for god doesn't give up in you…so we must endure as children of God.
Your spouse on the other hand, will need to seek God as well…he won't be the person you need him to be, without God.
Marriage is an institution of God…and like any institution, it is headed by someone.
If God doesn't head your marriage on both parties…it won't work.
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Try taking him to church and helping him dive deeper in scripture.Like everyone, you both need to get deeper in christ.
If he can't and won't do it, then it is as if he already is committing adultery.
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If you do decide to split, however, be prepared to suffer the consequences.
My apologies if the situation didn't apply to you, I am assuming.
July 21, 2010 at 8:21 pm#205323RokkaManParticipantBTW a Test is a review of what we already know.
Whether your being tested or not, situations in life should always be handled accordingly.
If you pass the test, you may be rewarded or excused from oncoming danger.
If you fail, you may be punished or have to deal with the consequences.
So it's irrelevant whether something is a test or not, all situations should be handled accordingly.
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I forgot who it was in the bible, I think it was the guy who was sold into slavery by his own family and turned around and become king ( I could be wrong)….
David maybe?
anyways he was tested with a woman who wanted to murder her husband to be with David.
He said no and fled from the woman.
He passed the test
because of it, he was prophesied to be King?
Something along those lines.
If he had of failed and slept with the woman, he would of not been chosen to be king.
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So all in all, discerning whether something is a test or not, is irrelevant…
Being obedient to God and his law is what really matters.
July 21, 2010 at 11:13 pm#205354shimmerParticipantMy friends Husband was against her love and devotion of God for years; he would blaspheme during arguments; when she said she was leaving she felt it in her heart it was the right thing. [ironic– hes now choosing which church he will go though he doesn't want her back]
There are verses which speak of forsaking all for the Kingdom of God, also ones which say what God has joined let none separate; though I think it goes further to say it is talking of divorce?
Separation, even if lasting, is not divorce; divorce should only occur on the grounds of known adultery— yet, in such an adulterous generation, how is one to know if their spouse has committed adultery — of the heart [lusting after another] and how many — some things only Lord knows, though we cant presume things the person could be blameless. The one however who leaves must keep to the law; they are still married; they must be faithful to the law of marriage; or they commit adultery themselves. [eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom]
Matt 10—Matt 19: 3—Matt 19:29—Luke 9:57—Luke 14:26
April 11, 2018 at 9:27 am#822176NickHassanParticipantHi,
1 Cor.10.14
No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, Who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide a way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.
Satan is in a no win situation.
Even death is victory for those in Christ.
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