Terraricca and 2b

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,12:02)

2bee again you are quoting many scriptures that I am well familiar with and so are the others ,but what I am looking for is your understanding of what the word SPIRIT means and does it mean in all circumstances the same things

Hi Pierre,

Now you know what I'm talking about, you do this practice as well;
posting various Scriptures from corrupted bibles and neglect
to tell us what you are expecting us to get out of them.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[2besee]

Quote

Again you are quoting many scriptures that I am well familiar with and so are the others ,but what I am looking for is your understanding of what the word SPIRIT means and does it mean in all circumstances the same things

Terraricca,
As we are talking about God's own spirit here. God's own Spirit is the very spirit within him, which searches out the deep things of God.

And 'No', the word “spirit” does not mean the same thing in all circumstances, because we are speaking about The Holy Spirit.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,07:53)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:56) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,23:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits            2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? God bless Ed J edj what is the spirit in those verses and in your question Hi Pierre, I don't know what you are asking? Can you ask it again, but this time using different words? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you are showing scriptures with the word “SPIRIT“

but you never say or explain what the word in it self means ,so please explain the word

[terraricca]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 04 2013,08:20)

Quote Again you are quoting many scriptures that I am well familiar with and so are the others ,but what I am looking for is your understanding of what the word SPIRIT means and does it mean in all circumstances the same things Terraricca, As we are talking about God's own spirit here. God's own Spirit is the very spirit within him, which searches out the deep things of God. And 'No', the word “spirit” does not mean the same thing in all circumstances, because we are speaking about The Holy Spirit.

2bee

read what you are telling me ,and then think what is it that you are telling me ,not only you do not answer the question but you do not make sense ,

I want to know what the WORD SPIRIT MEANS

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,13:25)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,07:53) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:56) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,23:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits       2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? God bless Ed J edj what is the spirit in those verses and in your question Hi Pierre, I don't know what you are asking? Can you ask it again, but this time using different words? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you are showing scriptures with the word “SPIRIT“ but you never say or explain what the word in it self means ,so please explain the word

Hi Pierre,

πνευματω (pneuma): spirit, ghost

From pneo; a current of air, i.e. Breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively,
a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc.,
or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit — ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare psuche.

We see from the definition of the Greek word translated as “spirit” – God's, Christ's, and our's.
We know that the “HolySpirit” of God is father to our spirit (points 1-2); but the question is:
where does “the spirit of Christ” fit in these two classifications spelled out in Heb 12:9.

I say #2, because we can see that the “HolySpirit” is the father of Jesus Christ in Matt.1:18, 1:20, & Luke 1:35.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,08:58)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,13:25) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,07:53) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:56) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,23:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits       2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? God bless Ed J edj what is the spirit in those verses and in your question Hi Pierre, I don't know what you are asking? Can you ask it again, but this time using different words? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you are showing scriptures with the word “SPIRIT“ but you never say or explain what the word in it self means ,so please explain the word Hi Pierre, πνευματω (pneuma): spirit, ghost From pneo; a current of air, i.e. Breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit — ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare psuche. We see from the definition of the Greek word translated as “spirit” – God's, Christ's, and our's. We know that the “HolySpirit” of God is father to our spirit (points 1-2); but the question is: where does “the spirit of Christ” fit in these two classifications spelled out in Heb 12:9. I say #2, because we can see that the “HolySpirit” is the father of Jesus Christ in Matt.1:18, 1:20, & Luke 1:35. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

no that is not the point;

show me which of the definition from the Greek language are we to give to the word “SPIRIT ” in your scriptures

this knowledge will also be applied to the “SPIRIT OF CHRIST”

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,14:06)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,08:58) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,13:25) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,07:53) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:56) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,23:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits       2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? God bless Ed J edj what is the spirit in those verses and in your question Hi Pierre, I don't know what you are asking? Can you ask it again, but this time using different words? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you are showing scriptures with the word “SPIRIT“ but you never say or explain what the word in it self means ,so please explain the word Hi Pierre, πνευματω (pneuma): spirit, ghost From pneo; a current of air, i.e. Breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit — ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare psuche. We see from the definition of the Greek word translated as “spirit” – God's, Christ's, and our's. We know that the “HolySpirit” of God is father to our spirit (points 1-2); but the question is: where does “the spirit of Christ” fit in these two classifications spelled out in Heb 12:9. I say #2, because we can see that the “HolySpirit” is the father of Jesus Christ in Matt.1:18, 1:20, & Luke 1:35. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj no that is not the point; show me which of the definition from the Greek language are we to give to the word “SPIRIT ” in your scriptures this knowledge will also be applied to the “SPIRIT OF CHRIST”

Hi Pierre,

The definition of πνευματω applies to all “spirits” – whether God's, Christ's, or our's.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,09:58)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,14:06) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,08:58) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,13:25) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,07:53) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:56) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,23:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits       2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? God bless Ed J edj what is the spirit in those verses and in your question Hi Pierre, I don't know what you are asking? Can you ask it again, but this time using different words? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you are showing scriptures with the word “SPIRIT“ but you never say or explain what the word in it self means ,so please explain the word Hi Pierre, πνευματω (pneuma): spirit, ghost From pneo; a current of air, i.e. Breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit — ghost, life, spirit(-ual, -ually), mind. Compare psuche. We see from the definition of the Greek word translated as “spirit” – God's, Christ's, and our's. We know that the “HolySpirit” of God is father to our spirit (points 1-2); but the question is: where does “the spirit of Christ” fit in these two classifications spelled out in Heb 12:9. I say #2, because we can see that the “HolySpirit” is the father of Jesus Christ in Matt.1:18, 1:20, & Luke 1:35. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj no that is not the point; show me which of the definition from the Greek language are we to give to the word “SPIRIT ” in your scriptures this knowledge will also be applied to the “SPIRIT OF CHRIST” Hi Pierre, The definition of πνευματω applies to all “spirits” – whether God's, Christ's, or our's. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

That is absolutely not true ,

Is wickedness a spirit

Is stealing a spirit

Is lying a spirit

Is the truth a spirit

Is the words of God a spirit If you say yes what kind

Is God a spirit

Does God as a spirit If yes what kind is it

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,03:59) Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,05:32) The one and the same spirit is called: The Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, The Eternal Spirit, The Spirit of Christ, The Spirit of the Son. As Paul explained, there is only ONE SPIRIT – it us ONE AND THE SAME SPIRIT. If you do not include the “spirit of the antichrist” in with this “one spirit”, then what makes you think you can include the “spirit of Christ” with the “Holy Spirit”? Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits            2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike?

Well done, Ed.

I agree that the spirit of Christ is one of the many spirits the Father of Spirits is the Father of.

I disagree that the Holy Spirit IS the Father of Spirits. Instead, it is the spirit OF the Father of Spirits.

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2013,02:26)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,03:59) Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,05:32) The one and the same spirit is called: The Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, The Eternal Spirit, The Spirit of Christ, The Spirit of the Son. As Paul explained, there is only ONE SPIRIT – it us ONE AND THE SAME SPIRIT. If you do not include the “spirit of the antichrist” in with this “one spirit”, then what makes you think you can include the “spirit of Christ” with the “Holy Spirit”? Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits            2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? Well done, Ed. I agree that the spirit of Christ is one of the many spirits the Father of Spirits is the Father of. I disagree that the Holy Spirit IS the Father of Spirits.  Instead, it is the spirit OF the Father of Spirits.

Hi Mike,

It is like you said: Your spirit is the the “Spirit” OF you.   (however, therefore your spirit is you)
It sounds like we actually agree, even though you say you don't agree *AND* you do agree.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

No, we don't agree on that part, Ed.  The spirit OF Mike is not actually Mike himself.

MY spirit is not ME.  It is something I possess – hence the words “spirit OF Mike”, or “Spirit OF God”.

You did, however, make a good point to 2B. Either the spirit of Christ IS the Father of Spirits………. or it is one of the many spirits the Father of Spirits is the Father of.

I await his response to this, and to my points as well.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,03:57)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2013,02:26) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits       2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? Well done, Ed. I agree that the spirit of Christ is one of the many spirits the Father of Spirits is the Father of. I disagree that the Holy Spirit IS the Father of Spirits.  Instead, it is the spirit OF the Father of Spirits. Hi Mike, It is like you said: Your spirit is the the “Spirit” OF you.   (however, therefore your spirit is you) It sounds like we actually agree, even though you say you don't agree *AND* you do agree. God bless Ed J

Hi Mike,

The “Father of Spirits” is “GOD”, and He is the father of all other spirits.         (<– I think we agree here)

We agree in that “the spirit of Christ” is #2. And I think that 2Besee disagrees with us in this, but not 100% sure.

So my question to YOU is:  Since the “HolySpirit” is a spirit – which is your classification of this “SPIRIT”  #1 or #2?

         1. The Father of Spirits
         2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,23:12)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,03:57) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2013,02:26) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15) Hi Mike, I don't think 2Besee will understand your question. This is an easier way to put it…   “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,  and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in    subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)      Which of these spirits is “the spirit of Christ”?            1. The Father of Spirits       2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. I say the “HolySpirit” is #1, and “the spirit of Christ” is #2; what say you Mike? Well done, Ed. I agree that the spirit of Christ is one of the many spirits the Father of Spirits is the Father of. I disagree that the Holy Spirit IS the Father of Spirits.  Instead, it is the spirit OF the Father of Spirits. Hi Mike, It is like you said: Your spirit is the the “Spirit” OF you.   (however, therefore your spirit is you) It sounds like we actually agree, even though you say you don't agree *AND* you do agree. God bless Ed J Hi Mike, The “Father of Spirits” is “GOD”, and He is the father of all other spirits.         (<– I think we agree here) We agree in that “the spirit of Christ” is #2. And I think that 2Besee disagrees with us in this, but not 100% sure. So my question to YOU is:  Since the “HolySpirit” is a spirit – which is your classification of this “SPIRIT”  #1 or #2?          1. The Father of Spirits          2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

i will bring to your attention that their are two fathers of spirits

one his of God ,spirit of truth, the other one his of the devil ,spirit of lies and deceit

and you did not answer my questions yet

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,11:12)

So my question to YOU is: Since the “HolySpirit” is a spirit – which is your classification of this “SPIRIT” #1 or #2? 1. The Father of Spirits 2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of.

Other.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2013,10:46)

and you did not answer my questions yet

What questions?

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2013,11:16)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,11:12) So my question to YOU is:  Since the “HolySpirit” is a spirit – which is your classification of this “SPIRIT”  #1 or #2?          1. The Father of Spirits          2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of. Other.

Other, HA Ha ha ha ha

Too bad that isn't a biblical option.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,16:52)

Edj That is absolutely not true , (1) Is wickedness a spirit (2) Is stealing a spirit (3) Is lying a spirit (4) Is the truth a spirit (5) Is the words of God a spirit (5A)If you say yes what kind (6)Is God a spirit (7)Does God as a spirit (7A)If yes what kind is it

These questions,

1) Yes, it is the spirit of satan

2) Yes, it is the spirit of satan

3) Yes, it is the spirit of satan

4) Yes, it's the spirit of GOD

5) Yes, see John 6:63
  5A) Holy

6) Yes, see John 4:24

7) Does God have a spirit?  –  Yes, we are created in his image.
  7A) Holy

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[2besee]

Terraricca and Mike and all, I'm out of data again for a week. Be back to the conversations later.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,07:10)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,16:52) Edj That is absolutely not true , (1) Is wickedness a spirit (2) Is stealing a spirit (3) Is lying a spirit (4) Is the truth a spirit (5) Is the words of God a spirit (5A)If you say yes what kind (6)Is God a spirit (7)Does God as a spirit (7A)If yes what kind is it These questions, 1) Yes, it is the spirit of satan 2) Yes, it is the spirit of satan 3) Yes, it is the spirit of satan 4) Yes, it's the spirit of GOD 5) Yes, see John 6:63   5A) Holy 6) Yes, see John 4:24 7) Does God have a spirit?  –  Yes, we are created in his image.   7A) Holy God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

Could you explain the number 7

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,07:10)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,16:52) Edj That is absolutely not true , (1) Is wickedness a spirit (2) Is stealing a spirit (3) Is lying a spirit (4) Is the truth a spirit (5) Is the words of God a spirit (5A)If you say yes what kind (6)Is God a spirit (7)Does God as a spirit (7A)If yes what kind is it These questions, 1) Yes, it is the spirit of satan 2) Yes, it is the spirit of satan 3) Yes, it is the spirit of satan 4) Yes, it's the spirit of GOD 5) Yes, see John 6:63   5A) Holy 6) Yes, see John 4:24 7) Does God have a spirit?  –  Yes, we are created in his image.   7A) Holy God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

Could you show me the difference between number 4 and 7

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