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God is Spirit, so perhaps as The Word who was with God, he may have been a Spirit too. And because all creation came from God through The Word, then maybe he took a body thereafter to appear eithin creation. I’m speculating.
LU no matter how you dress this up you believe in two Gods who are united in purpose.
I believe in one God the Father and his Son whom God made Lord.
Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type? Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?
Do you believe that the Father and Son act as two opposing gods
OR
two beings who are both in the form of God acting interdependently towards the same purpose?
Here is the post again for the second time, please answer:
Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type? Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?
Do you believe that the Father and Son act as two opposing gods
OR
two beings who are both in the form of God acting interdependently towards the same purpose?
Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type?
I agree.
Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?
Yes because creation is defined as that which was created by God through the Word. But God, Jesus, and angels are spirit beings. But the God is the Father and he is the father of spirits. Jesus is his Son.
The Son / Word was begotten,
God wasn’t begotten. He has always been.
God > Word / Son > Creation.
Jesus is the vine and we are the branches. God is not the vine or branches. He is the gardener.
Jesus, angels, and sons of God can be like God. But they are not God himself. Even partaking in divine nature doesn’t make you God just as being a spirit doesn’t make you God.
Thanks for your answers. I’m glad that we agree on these points:
The Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type.
The Father and the Word are of a different type to the created spirit beings.
Can you agree that the Father and the Word both, individually have the form of god?
The one true God the Father is an uncreated Spirit.
The Son of God was begotten by the Most High God who is the Father.
He is the Father of spirits and the father of the son.
The Son of God came in the flesh.
While the Bible is not clear, as the Word he was likely spirit.
I’m kinda wondering how to get you more engaged in this discussion. It seems that I have to keep reminding you. Would you prefer that I stop posting on HN since you seemed to indicate that it would be better if we all left? Please answer my last post here as well as the question on this post. Thanks!
Thanks Berean for the music. You probably meant that for another topic. This one is private 😉
God bless, LU
Hi LU
Uh! not really This is to help you wait for T8’s response
But it’s true I should have posted this somewhere else!
ExcuseWas there a time when the Father was not the “Father?”
It’s possible.
He is the Father of all Spirits.
So was there a time when he was the only Spirit?
Well, if he is the Father and all others are sons or children, then it doesn’t fit that a son or child is as old as God, so to speak.
But the scriptures talk about the beginning and not about before that beginning.
It is even possible at this point that there were other beginnings.
And to make things harder to comprehend, time is supposedly a part of creation.
So before all creation, there was God and he was WITH the Word.
But there is no mention or description before that, so stating anything there is speculation at this point.
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