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Avoiding the truth doesn't make it go away. I find it amazing that at this time of the antichrist season no one has anything to say except David and then David says nothing about which day Jesus was resurrected. Just the Trinty, and that's what the three day and night does it proves that the author of the Trinity doctrine is the antichrist and their whole reasoning for their new sabbath is false, all their doctrines are false. Seems to me if you prove the author wrong then you have proved all their doctrines wrong. Case over! But as I suspected arguing is more popular than the truth. SAD!
You guys wish to avoid the truth fine I'm not the judge just the messenger. But who's the foolHi kenrch.
I don't think anyone here (who posts) thinks that Easter is the time of the year when Yeshua died for our sins.
That probably explains why no one has mentioned it, so why bring the subject up? Likewise I don't think anyone here thinks Nazis are righteous, but then there is no reason to bring that up either.
But if there were a group who came here called the Eastertarians who argued for the recognition of Easter and said things like you will die in your sins if you do not respect Easter, then I just might give them some reasons from scripture as to why they are wrong on that issue.
Quote (t8 @ April 07 2007,00:04) Hi kenrch. I don't think anyone here (who posts) thinks that Easter is the time of the year when Yeshua died for our sins.
That probably explains why no one has mentioned it, so why bring the subject up? Likewise I don't think anyone here thinks Nazis are righteous, but then there is no reason to bring that up either.
But if there were a group who came here called the Eastertarians who argued for the recognition of Easter and said things like you will die in your sins if you do not respect Easter, then I just might give them some reasons from scripture as to why they are wrong on that issue.
Why bring the subject up?It's not just Easter. It's which day was Christ resurrected on. It's three Days and three Nights. It's the sign that Jesus gave that He is the Messiah. It's the fact that scripture proves that the Catholic church is full of false doctrine that people still follow.
You say everyone knows the truth. But they still keep Sunday? The Popes day? It's worse than I thought. Does everyone know the truth about the Trinity. Every scripture ever written that comes close to the Trinity has been gone over many numerous times. But that Jesus said this was the only sign He was going to give AND that the Catholic church denys that truth and teaches that Jesus is a liar matters not.
They know the truth BUT keep the lie! Scriptural proof that Jesus was not resurrected on Sunday. If you keep the sabbath then you keep the Day Jesus was resurrected on.
AGAIN I believe God knew what HE was doing by creating the Sabbath day.
Sabbath:
God created.
God rested.
We are commanded to keep.
Jesus resurrected on.Sunday the new man's sabbath by the author of the resurrection day Sunday, the antichrist (Dan 7:25). One day two nights is not the sign Jesus gave! But this truth does not matter!
I'll stand by my statement:
Avoiding the truth won't make it go away. The truth will stand through judgment day when ignorance won't be an excuse. I say too all “come out of her my people” This is the last day message.
I wish that I were permitted to shake the dust off my feet. The problem is that other people vist this site and they “will” be warned to come out of her. This generation will have no excuse. Those who have passed away before now will go through the millennium because they were deceived and taught that it was alright to break the law (Matt5:19). But this last generation will be warned and truth will be known. All will be held accountable.
Jesus is gathering His sheep. Only His sheep hear His voice and come out of the Harlot.
Quote (kenrch @ April 07 2007,03:12) Quote (t8 @ April 07 2007,00:04) Hi kenrch. I don't think anyone here (who posts) thinks that Easter is the time of the year when Yeshua died for our sins.
That probably explains why no one has mentioned it, so why bring the subject up? Likewise I don't think anyone here thinks Nazis are righteous, but then there is no reason to bring that up either.
But if there were a group who came here called the Eastertarians who argued for the recognition of Easter and said things like you will die in your sins if you do not respect Easter, then I just might give them some reasons from scripture as to why they are wrong on that issue.
Why bring the subject up?It's not just Easter. It's which day was Christ resurrected on. It's three Days and three Nights. It's the sign that Jesus gave that He is the Messiah. It's the fact that scripture proves that the Catholic church is full of false doctrine that people still follow.
You say everyone knows the truth. But they still keep Sunday? The Popes day? It's worse than I thought. Does everyone know the truth about the Trinity. Every scripture ever written that comes close to the Trinity has been gone over many numerous times. But that Jesus said this was the only sign He was going to give AND that the Catholic church denys that truth and teaches that Jesus is a liar matters not.
They know the truth BUT keep the lie! Scriptural proof that Jesus was not resurrected on Sunday. If you keep the sabbath then you keep the Day Jesus was resurrected on.
AGAIN I believe God knew what HE was doing by creating the Sabbath day.
Sabbath:
God created.
God rested.
We are commanded to keep.
Jesus resurrected on.Sunday the new man's sabbath by the author of the resurrection day Sunday, the antichrist (Dan 7:25). One day two nights is not the sign Jesus gave! But this truth does not matter!
I'll stand by my statement:
Avoiding the truth won't make it go away. The truth will stand through judgment day when ignorance won't be an excuse. I say too all “come out of her my people” This is the last day message.
I wish that I were permitted to shake the dust off my feet. The problem is that other people vist this site and they “will” be warned to come out of her. This generation will have no excuse. Those who have passed away before now will go through the millennium because they were deceived and taught that it was alright to break the law (Matt5:19). But this last generation will be warned and truth will be known. All will be held accountable.
Jesus is gathering His sheep. Only His sheep hear His voice and come out of the Harlot.
kenrchWhy would anyone come out of one organization to join another?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2007,05:48) Quote (kenrch @ April 07 2007,03:12) Quote (t8 @ April 07 2007,00:04) Hi kenrch. I don't think anyone here (who posts) thinks that Easter is the time of the year when Yeshua died for our sins.
That probably explains why no one has mentioned it, so why bring the subject up? Likewise I don't think anyone here thinks Nazis are righteous, but then there is no reason to bring that up either.
But if there were a group who came here called the Eastertarians who argued for the recognition of Easter and said things like you will die in your sins if you do not respect Easter, then I just might give them some reasons from scripture as to why they are wrong on that issue.
Why bring the subject up?It's not just Easter. It's which day was Christ resurrected on. It's three Days and three Nights. It's the sign that Jesus gave that He is the Messiah. It's the fact that scripture proves that the Catholic church is full of false doctrine that people still follow.
You say everyone knows the truth. But they still keep Sunday? The Popes day? It's worse than I thought. Does everyone know the truth about the Trinity. Every scripture ever written that comes close to the Trinity has been gone over many numerous times. But that Jesus said this was the only sign He was going to give AND that the Catholic church denys that truth and teaches that Jesus is a liar matters not.
They know the truth BUT keep the lie! Scriptural proof that Jesus was not resurrected on Sunday. If you keep the sabbath then you keep the Day Jesus was resurrected on.
AGAIN I believe God knew what HE was doing by creating the Sabbath day.
Sabbath:
God created.
God rested.
We are commanded to keep.
Jesus resurrected on.Sunday the new man's sabbath by the author of the resurrection day Sunday, the antichrist (Dan 7:25). One day two nights is not the sign Jesus gave! But this truth does not matter!
I'll stand by my statement:
Avoiding the truth won't make it go away. The truth will stand through judgment day when ignorance won't be an excuse. I say too all “come out of her my people” This is the last day message.
I wish that I were permitted to shake the dust off my feet. The problem is that other people vist this site and they “will” be warned to come out of her. This generation will have no excuse. Those who have passed away before now will go through the millennium because they were deceived and taught that it was alright to break the law (Matt5:19). But this last generation will be warned and truth will be known. All will be held accountable.
Jesus is gathering His sheep. Only His sheep hear His voice and come out of the Harlot.
kenrchWhy would anyone come out of one organization to join another?
Seems like to me the message that you and David the JWs and SDAs have is that you are the only organizations that are saved!Quote (Phoenix @ April 07 2007,07:59) Well that would be sad WJ wouldnt it!! Afterall… they did say “not many will be saved”
Go figure huh
PhoenixWho says “not many will be saved”?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2007,08:27) Quote (Phoenix @ April 07 2007,07:59) Well that would be sad WJ wouldnt it!! Afterall… they did say “not many will be saved”
Go figure huh
PhoenixWho says “not many will be saved”?
How many can fit on a straight narrow path?Until judgment day all are saved who believe even the deceived. But this generation will either come out of her or partake of her destruction. This is the last message “Come out of her”
It's sad that the way you think is “organizations” instead of Spirit and Truth the body of Christ.
WJ, was Jesus resurrected on Sunday?
Was Jesus in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights as HE said?
How do YOU get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday afternoon to Sunday morning?
Why are we just recently finding more truths as the Sabbath after the Passover the “HIGH DAY” John 19:31. Where was your Catholic church to share the truth?
The truth is that Sabbath tells the truth along with the Matt 12:40 that the Catholic church is the Harlot and all who keep her false doctrines are her daughters.
Quote (kenrch @ April 07 2007,22:12) You say everyone knows the truth. But they still keep Sunday? The Popes day? It's worse than I thought. Does everyone know the truth about the Trinity. Every scripture ever written that comes close to the Trinity has been gone over many numerous times. But that Jesus said this was the only sign He was going to give AND that the Catholic church denys that truth and teaches that Jesus is a liar matters not.
Hi kenrch.Sunday isn't the Pope's day. All days belong to the YHWH. He hasn't given any day to evil or the Pope.
All days are holy if your faith considers this.
Hi Kenrch.
I understand what you are saying, but I am just saying that it is not mentioned because there is no one here that is defending such things as far as I know.
If they defend such, then I might say something at that point.
As Christians we have the Kingdom inside us and we are the light of the world. Focusing on anything other than what has been given us is really taking our eyes away from what God wants us to do.
But I can understand that we need to expose certain things for what they are for the light does this. But I think that most who post here do not hold to such things or at least they are not promoting it.
That is probably the reason why Easter wasn't mentioned.
However I am also not opposed to the idea of remembering Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. After all if we remember it when we break bread, then why can't we remember his great sacrifice during this time of the year too.
Surely we are free to remember what Christ did for us at anytime. Whether it is this weekend, Sunday, Saturday, or even in the next world.
For me what is important is what Christ did for us. Days, months, holidays, are not important in that regard.
Easter for me is 4 days off work which gives me time with my family, and even some time to post here.
Quote (t8 @ April 07 2007,12:42) Quote (kenrch @ April 07 2007,22:12) You say everyone knows the truth. But they still keep Sunday? The Popes day? It's worse than I thought. Does everyone know the truth about the Trinity. Every scripture ever written that comes close to the Trinity has been gone over many numerous times. But that Jesus said this was the only sign He was going to give AND that the Catholic church denys that truth and teaches that Jesus is a liar matters not.
Hi kenrch.Sunday isn't the Pope's day. All days belong to the YHWH. He hasn't given any day to evil or the Pope.
All days are holy if your faith considers this.
Consider which day God made Holy. Which day He rested on. Which day HE commandmented to keep. Which day was Jesus resurrected on? Which day did the Pope change the Sabbath too. Which day is Easter? How many days were there between Friday and Easter? Which day is man's day. Six days were for work and one was made for rest and worship this was BEFORE JEWS.But you cannot deny that in the New Covenant that we are free to worship God on any or all of the days of the week.
Jesus instructed us to worship God in spirit and truth. If the day was that important surely he would have said worship God on Saturday.
He just said worship God in spirit and truth. So the spirit and truth part is the important part.
A bit like Jesus saving people on the Sabbath. Surely saving people is work, but Christ put it into perspective and let's face it the Pharisees kept the Law in that regard, but they didn't keep the spirit of the Law. So there righteousness wasn't good enough to enter the Kingdom.
Surely you should be more serious about worshiping God in spirit and truth, than when we worship God.
Quote (t8 @ April 07 2007,12:58) But you cannot deny that in the New Covenant that we are free to worship God on any or all of the days of the week. Jesus instructed us to worship God in spirit and truth. If the day was that important surely he would have said worship God on Saturday.
He just said worship God in spirit and truth. So the spirit and truth part is the important part.
A bit like Jesus saving people on the Sabbath. Surely saving people is work, but Christ put it into perspective and let's face it the Pharisees kept the Law in that regard, but they didn't keep the spirit of the Law. So there righteousness wasn't good enough to enter the Kingdom.
Surely you should be more serious about worshiping God in spirit and truth, than when we worship God.
t8, I have said I worship God everyday. Do you dedicate everyday to God? Do you fellowship with God everyday all day? God said to keep the Sabbath why woud you NOT want too?Nevermind you know what I have been teaching if you don't see it is because you don't want too. Maybe latter you will come out of her.
Do you really think God forbade people to worship Him everyday? Where doe it say that? People could always worship God anytime but not “keep” everyday. It simply can't be done. No one can keep everyday a Sabbath day.
The New Covenant give us permission to break the Commandments of God?
Rev 12:17, 14:12.Again before there were Jews there was the Sabbath.
“Surely you should be more serious about worshiping God in spirit and truth, than when we worship God”.
Keeping the Sabbath does not save me or anyone.
Spirit and Truth. Is it truth that Sunday is the Sabbath? Is it truth that Jesus was resurrected on Sunday? Jesus showed the Spirit of the Sabbath day. The Sabbath was made for man NOT man for the Sabbath. Does this mean that the sabbath was done away with? OR does it mean why and how the Sabbath should be kept.If you don't keep the Sabbath then you keep man's day. The antichrist day.
One day is God's day and the other day is the antichrist day. There is NO in-between. There is no in between in the whole of the bible. And especially Now with the last day message.To have the spirit means you subject yourself to the Law of God.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:[WHY?] for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.So if you have the Spirit you subject yourself to the law of God in less you are deceived. But the message is being proclaimed Come out of her.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.As I say judgment day is not here but it is soon approching for each of us. The message is being proclaimed “Come out of her my people”
Surely our Father gives us some grace where this keeping of days is concerend?
Ken – what about the passage in Romans 14:5 …..one considers a day more holy…….? Maybe this does not include the sacred Sabbath? I've never really given this a ton of thought until now. I worship everyday. Ever since I denounced the Trinity in 2003, I study and worship God everday. I do not consider any day more special then the next. Should I?
Quote (Not3in1 @ April 09 2007,10:33) Surely our Father gives us some grace where this keeping of days is concerend? Ken – what about the passage in Romans 14:5 …..one considers a day more holy…….? Maybe this does not include the sacred Sabbath? I've never really given this a ton of thought until now. I worship everyday. Ever since I denounced the Trinity in 2003, I study and worship God everday. I do not consider any day more special then the next. Should I?
Yes I worship God everyday also. Should you keep the “Ten Commandments?Take Romans 14 in context you see it being mixed with food beginning in verse one the weak in faith. Food and feasts days go together not the seventh day Sabbath.
God set aside the seventh Day, a 24 hour day for rest and worship. I am unable to work but even so I still can't worship God all day. There are things that need to be done. That's what the other six days are for. God ask you fellowship with Him on the seventh day. That's it! I enjoy fellowshiping with the Father ALL day. What would be wrong with that?
The Pope changed that day. WHY? Because if you keep the day God said to then you are reconizing God as creator and your God. There is NO scripture that did away or changed the Sabbath day to Sunday. The Pope changed it and he is proud of it and he will tell you there is no scripture saying that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday.The Sabbath is made for MAN, Jesus said. He didn't say it was done away with.
We cannot choose which Commandments we will keep and which we will not. Sin is sin and sin is trangression of the law.
1Jo 3:4 Every one that doeth sin doeth also lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
So you say that Saturday is the Sabbath? OK. That's fine with me.
Also, I try to keep all 10 of the commandments, especially the one that Jesus added…..love your neighbor as yourself!I just reviewed the 10 commandments, and I can see why you are so passionate about “the day” in which to worship, and which day is the Sabbath – to keep it holy to God. But how do we know for sure that the week really started on Sunday and not Monday?
Quote (Not3in1 @ April 09 2007,17:36) So you say that Saturday is the Sabbath? OK. That's fine with me. Also, I try to keep all 10 of the commandments, especially the one that Jesus added…..love your neighbor as yourself!I just reviewed the 10 commandments, and I can see why you are so passionate about “the day” in which to worship, and which day is the Sabbath – to keep it holy to God. But how do we know for sure that the week really started on Sunday and not Monday?
God gave instructions to gather twice as much bread on the sixth day so that on the seventh day they would rest and reflect on God. Remember Pentecost was not fulfilled so the Holy Spirit had not fallen.
Any way God showed them when the seventh day was, after that it was just a matter of counting. one through sixthe Seven.
God would surely not expect us to keep a day that He kept secret. So the week Sunday the first day and Saturday the seventh is correct according to God.Consider the days change in the month and years . For example your birthday changes a day of the week every year. If you birthday is on Monday one year then the next year it will be on Tuesday. But not so with the Sabbath. The seventh day of God never changes it is always on Saturday all ways the seventh day. Unless you listen to the Pope who changed it to the first day Sunday Dan. 7:25.
We can be sure that Saturday is the Sabbath day. I'm thrilled at the fact I rest on the same day God did. I'm His I do as He does not man.
Sister we are in the last day message: “come out of her My people” Rev. 18:4 I don't believe this last gereration will be deceived rather they will choose. Those who were deceived (and passed away) until now will be the least in the kingdom while they are taught during the millennium Rev. 20. Matt. 5:19.
Job 1:6 Now it came to pass ON THE DAY WHEN the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan also came among them.
There is a day when the sons of God present themselves before Jehovah. What day is that? Is there a special day?
You love your husband then you do what pleases him. You love God then you do His will just as Jesus did.
2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
The commandment is: that we walk after His commandments, that we have heard since the beginning. THIS IS LOVE.
We don't live on bread alone but every word from the mouth of God .
IHN&L,
Ken
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