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    bodhitharta
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    I don't have another version of Islam I follow the Quran which is the only version of Islam

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    Stu
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2010,05:32)
    I don't have another version of Islam I follow the Quran which is the only version of Islam


    …according to you, but not according to most muslims.

    Stuart

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    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Stu @ Aug. 27 2010,16:15)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2010,05:32)
    I don't have another version of Islam I follow the Quran which is the only version of Islam


    …according to you, but not according to most muslims.

    Stuart


    Really? How many Muslims do you know?

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    Stu
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2010,19:48)

    Quote (Stu @ Aug. 27 2010,16:15)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2010,05:32)
    I don't have another version of Islam I follow the Quran which is the only version of Islam


    …according to you, but not according to most muslims.

    Stuart


    Really? How many Muslims do you know?


    I've never sat down to count them. What relevance does it have?

    Stuart

    #214082
    Stu
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    From the Holy Wikipedia:

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    Sunni view of hadith

    The Qur'an as it exists today was compiled by Muhammad's companions (Sahaba) in approximately 650, and is accepted by all Muslim denominations. However, there were many matters of belief and daily life that were not directly prescribed in the Qur'an, but were actions that were observed by Muhammad and the community. Later generations sought out oral traditions regarding the early history of Islam, and the practice of Muhammad and his first followers, and wrote them down so that they might be preserved. These recorded oral traditions are called hadith. Muslim scholars sifted through the hadith and evaluated the chain of narration of each tradition, scrutinizing the trustworthiness of the narrators and judging the strength of each hadith accordingly.

    Most Sunni accept the hadith collections of Bukhari and Muslim as the most authentic (sahih, or correct), and grant a lesser status to the collections of other recorders. There are, however, four other collections of hadith that are also held in particular reverence by Sunni Muslims, making a total of six:

    * Sahih al-Bukhari
    * Sahih Muslim
    * Sunan an-Nasa'ii
    * Sunan Abu Dawud
    * Sunan at-Tirmidhi
    * Sunan ibn Majah

    There are also other collections of hadith which also contain many authentic hadith and are frequently used by specialists. Examples of these collections include:

    * Muwatta of Imam Malik
    * Musnad of Ahmad ibn Hanbal
    * Sahih Ibn Khuzaymah
    * Sahih Ibn Hibbaan
    * Mustadrak of Al Haakim
    * Musannaf of Abd al-Razzaq

    Sunni muslims make up 90% of the 1.57 billion people who identify as muslim (whether they do so under duress or not). The hadiths taht are important to shia muslims are not the same ones most important to sunnis, but adding the shias, the number who place great importance on the hadiths accounts for about 99% of muslims.

    I do not have to know them by name personally to understand that those who ignore the hadiths are in the tiny minority.

    It remains true that according to you only the koran “is islam”, and according to most muslims it is not just the koran that is important.

    Stuart

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