Speculation

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,09:14)

Hi, No harm in speculation so long as you acknowledge you are doing so

If It can not be verified by scriptures;then its speculation.
Being able to harmonise the scriptures is very important.
Bring the scriptures together to form the right picture.
Scriptures dont always tell us straight.
This is why we must seek;not just read;for anyone can read.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
And find witnesses if possible [2cor 13.1]

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,13:31)

Hi WU, And find witnesses if possible [2cor 13.1]

The Word and the Holy spirit are the witnesses.
The scriptures support each other.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Yes and yes.
But we need to be careful what we claim.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,14:52)

Hi WU, Yes and yes. But we need to be careful what we claim.

Sure we have to.
We can not interpret scripture, nor prophecy without comparing scriptures. And find it in harmony.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU
Two or three witnesses

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,17:18)

Hi WU Two or three witnesses

Nick,

Wakeup and I are two witnesses preaching the same thing, and belonging to no religion or organisation.

There is no two of you on here that preach in harmony,
you are all divided and all over the place.

So if you want two witnesses you've got it, and the third one has no internet connection.

[terraricca]

hi

Pr 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips,
but he delights in men who are truthful.

1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He that taketh the wise in their craftiness:
1Co 3:20 and again, The Lord knoweth the reasonings of the wise that they are vain.
1Co 3:21 Wherefore let no one glory in men. For all things are yours;
1Co 3:22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
1Co 3:23 and ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

[NickHassan]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 28 2014,01:51)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2014,17:18) Hi WU Two or three witnesses Nick, Wakeup and I are two witnesses preaching the same thing, and belonging to no religion or organisation. There is no two of you on here that preach in harmony, you are all divided and all over the place. So if you want two witnesses you've got it, and the third one has no internet connection.

Hi J42,
But it seems you are not reliant on scripture but what you KNOW.

[terraricca]

HI

Jn 3:31 “The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.
Jn 3:32 He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony.
Jn 3:33 The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful.
Jn 3:34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.

[Wakeup]

T.

Where does all those scriptures fit in our
topic?
Speculations can NOT be backed up with scriptures.
If it can be, than its NOT speculation, but truth.
But how can one know the difference between truth, and not truth, if one has not found the truth?

wakeup.

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2014,05:29)

Hi J42, But it seems you are not reliant on scripture but what you KNOW.

Nick

What we are preaching is in the scriptures,
which scripture in particular do you require?
because i can flood this thread with scriptures,
and you probably wont even read one of them.

What about the scriptures I have given you already?
are they made up?

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,04:02)

hi Pr 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful. 1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He that taketh the wise in their craftiness: 1Co 3:20 and again, The Lord knoweth the reasonings of the wise that they are vain. 1Co 3:21 Wherefore let no one glory in men. For all things are yours; 1Co 3:22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 1Co 3:23 and ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Pierre

If those scriptures are intended for me and if what I have said is a lie,
then show me two people here who preach in harmony?
and agree on every subject.
If you can, then feel free to call me a liar.

Nick keeps carrying on about needing two witnesses, well he has that in us. Wakeup and I. We don't preach ourselves, but the truth that comes from God, and we wouldn't even mention the things we say, unless we read them in the scriptures.
We couldn't make up these wonderful things in our wildest dreams, we do not have God's wonderful intelligence and perfect wisdom,
we also do not have the power to make events come true,
but can only be witnesses that these events are coming and the Word of God is sure and can be trusted, …
and if we search, with a pure heart, the holy spirit will be sent to help with the scriptures we have and will help us to put it all together so that there are no cracks. That is what the holy spirit does,
and it is not just available to Wakeup and I but to all of us.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:12)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,04:02) hi Pr 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful. 1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He that taketh the wise in their craftiness: 1Co 3:20 and again, The Lord knoweth the reasonings of the wise that they are vain. 1Co 3:21 Wherefore let no one glory in men. For all things are yours; 1Co 3:22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 1Co 3:23 and ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's. Pierre If those scriptures are intended for me and if what I have said is a lie, then show me two people here who preach in harmony? and agree on every subject. If you can, then feel free to call me a liar. Nick keeps carrying on about needing two witnesses, well he has that in us.  Wakeup and I.  We don't preach ourselves, but the truth that comes from God, and we wouldn't even mention the things we say, unless we read them in the scriptures. We couldn't make up these wonderful things in our wildest dreams, we do not have God's wonderful intelligence and perfect wisdom, we also do not have the power to make events come true, but can only be witnesses that these events are coming and the Word of God is sure and can be trusted, … and if we search, with a pure heart, the holy spirit will be sent to help with the scriptures we have and will help us to put it all together so that there are no cracks.  That is what the holy spirit does, and it is not just available to Wakeup and I but to all of us.

j42

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Wakeup and I. We don't preach ourselves, but the truth that comes from God, and we wouldn't even mention the things we say, unless we read them in the scriptures. We couldn't make up these wonderful things in our wildest dreams, we do not have God's wonderful intelligence and perfect wisdom,

Mike ,T8,and me have poke holes in your things you preach ,but you disregard them as they would never existed ,so your own convictions are not enough to bear the truth of God ,as for witness ;Mike ,t8 and me are preaching the same things ,the slit differences we have are minor and are normal to have them for the reason that I am older and not as well educated as Mike and t8,and t8 seems to be more longer in studying the scriptures than Mike and yet we did and can learn from each other ,for the sake of our personal advancement and enlightenment, in the truth from the scriptures ,not opinions

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