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Translation of the New Testament Greek huios to “son” (in the literal meaning of the word) is similarly flawed. On page 1210 of Kittel and Friedrich’s Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, the meaning of huios journeys from the literal (Jesus the son of Mary), to mildly metaphorical (believers as sons of the king [Matt. 17:25-26]), to politely metaphorical (God’s elect being sons of Abraham [Luke 19:9]), to colloquially metaphorical (believers as God’s sons [Matt. 7:9 and Heb 12:5]), to spiritually metaphorical (students as sons of the Pharisees [Matt. 12:27, Acts 23:6]), to biologically metaphorical (as in John 19:26, where Jesus describes his favorite disciple to Mary as “her son”), to blindingly metaphorical as “sons of the kingdom” (Matt. 8:12), “sons of peace” (Luke. 10:6), “sons of light” (Luke. 16:8), and of everything from “sons of this world” (Luke 16:8) to “sons of thunder” (Mark 3:17). It is as if this misunderstood word for “son” is waving a big sign on which is painted in bold letters: METAPHOR! Or, as Stanton eloquently puts it, “Most scholars agree that the Aramaic or Hebrew word behind ‘son’ is ‘servant.’ So as the Spirit descends on Jesus at his baptism, Jesus is addressed by the voice from heaven in terms of Isaiah 42:1: ‘Behold my servant … my chosen … I have put my Spirit upon him.’ So although Mark 1:11 and 9:7 affirm that Jesus is called by God to a special messianic task, the emphasis is on Jesus’ role as the anointed servant, rather than as Son of God.”[6]
Son means obedient servant and nothing more
Acts 3:26 (King James Version)
26Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Acts 3:26 (New King James Version)
26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”Acts 3:26 (Contemporary English Version)
26God sent his chosen Son to you first, because God wanted to bless you and make each one of you turn away from your sins.Acts 3:26 (American Standard Version)
26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Servant, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.
Hi BD,
You desperately try to undermine THE monogenes Son of God as he accuses your teachers of falsehood.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2010,07:30) Hi BD,
You desperately try to undermine THE monogenes Son of God as he accuses your teachers of falsehood.
No, I really do not intend to do that because Jesus is a ONE of a kind “Son of GOD” according to the meaning of that Metaphor.Do you believe that God conceives children as a man does?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:46) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2010,07:30) Hi BD,
You desperately try to undermine THE monogenes Son of God as he accuses your teachers of falsehood.
No, I really do not intend to do that because Jesus is a ONE of a kind “Son of GOD” according to the meaning of that Metaphor.Do you believe that God conceives children as a man does?
What do you believe on that subject?You tried parthenogenesis as the basis for the 'virgin birth' and then suggested Mary might have been enrolled in some ancient Palestinian IVF programme.
You could just have pulled out your trump card of faith and put it down to magic of course, as you appear to be doing now.
Which was it BD?
Parthenogenesis (not possible in humans)
IVF (the egg cell was unknown and sperm cells had never been seen so given there would have been no theory behind it at all they would have had quite a challenge to get the technique to work)
Magic. No evidence and so easily dismissed as special pleading.Stuart
Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 08 2010,07:30) Does saying stuff over and over make it true? Seems you think so.
Hi Kejonn,Once there is enough criticism, BD starts another thread just to start the pattern all over again.
He must think if he throws enough mud against the wall some must surely stick.
He can tell a lie 10,ooo times and it will NEVER become “truth”.Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,18:59) Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 08 2010,07:30) Does saying stuff over and over make it true? Seems you think so.
Hi Kejonn,Once there is enough criticism, BD starts another thread just to start the pattern all over again.
He must think if he throws enough mud against the wall some must surely stick.
He can tell a lie 10,ooo times and it will NEVER become “truth”.Ed J
Or I can teel the truth 10,000 times and you still believe it's a lie, simply because you don't understand it.
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