Some standing here

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,16:48)

Hi TT, Not at all. The finger of Father God is not EVER separated from Him.

Hi NH

The Lord is that Spirit, so is the Lord his own finger?

Does a finger have a mind and a will and experience grief, and teach, and lead, and guide, and shew, and comfort, and pray and on and on?

WJ

[KangarooJack]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,09:35)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,16:48) Hi TT, Not at all. The finger of Father God is not EVER separated from Him. Hi NH The Lord is that Spirit, so is the Lord his own finger? Does a finger have a mind and a will and experience grief, and teach, and lead, and guide, and shew, and comfort, and pray and on and on? WJ

Hey WJ,
I didn't think about the praying ministry of the Spirit. Your post caused me to recall the word of Paul when he said that the Spirit teaches us how to pray.

thinker

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,09:13)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:46) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 11 2009,17:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,01:25) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 11 2009,16:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2009,22:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2009,14:19) Hi BD, Compare Jn 5.24 He was speaking of those who HAVE PASSED from death to life. John 5:24 (King James Version) 24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Nick, did you read that Jesus said some standing here would not taste death? Hebrews 9:26-28 (King James Version) 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: In other words they would have still had to die just like you say Jesus died. You will see something great in this thread because any scripture anyone chooses to use will further prove this truth that I give to you today. This thread was started by The Will of God to teach His children(those who say with their lips that they love Him) Hi BD I have already shown you that Enoch and Elijah did not taste of death. But, you deny the possibility that Jesus words were true and that some that were standing there may have not tasted of a physical death but went with Jesus like Enoch who was not for God took him. Here is a secret for you BD. If a different possibility lies with a scripture then that scripture is ambiguous. Therefore your assumptions about Jesus statements are not unambiguous which means you have proved nothing! Why do you not have any faith in Jesus to be able to do what he says? Is it because he is not your Saviour or your Prophet or that his Father is not your Father? It seems you have more faith in another god and another prophet and another bible! WJ So Enoch and Elijah went to heaven regardless of Jesus? Who went with Jesus and why didn't the Prophecy come true regardless of who went with Jesus? Hi BD You are assuming that the generation that Jesus was speaking of was in his time. But the generation he is speaking of is when all those things are fulfilled, then shall the end come. Again, your view is ambiguous and no proof that Jesus words were not true! WJ Jesus said “This” Generation not “That” generation in which these things happen. Also Jesus says “some standing here” would not taste death before it occured and also keep in mind that the temple was detroyed in His generation. There is absolutely nothing ambiguous about what I am saying it is clear that Jesus did not know and plus he said he did not know just like he didn't know that figs were not on the fig tree nor was there supposed to be figs on an out of season fig tree but he cursed the tree. Hi BD If what you say is true then Jesus would be a false prophet.. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” Deut 2:29 And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground. 1 Sam 3:19 In response to the disciples question… “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?” Luke 21:7 “I tell you the truth, this generation* will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luke 21:33, 34 What generation? Jesus said… “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the gentiles, until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24 “In Luke 21:24 “They”, is referring to the Jews, and “gentiles”  is referring to the non-Jews. So in the time when the Jews take over the land of Jerusalem, then the times of the gentiles is fulfilled. This didn't happen until 1948! Either Jesus is a lair and a false prophet or as he said… HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY: “BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY” Luke 21:34 WJ

Nice try but “this generation” means the one that they were in. The scripture also shows that most of the disciples believed that Jesus was to return in their lifetime where do you think they got that belief from?

The temple was destroyed 2000 tears ago and the event of 1948 has nothing to do with what you are saying and if so, still nothing has happened, besides that Jesus was talking to people of his day and told them it would happen in their day even saying some standing there would not taste death before it happened, why not admit the truth.

Jesus did not say God told him to say what he said in-fact he said HE DID NOT KNOW so no he is not a false prophet but he was acting presumptuous having partial blindness

Isaiah 42
19 Who is blind but My servant,
Or deaf as My messenger whom I send?
Who is blind as he who is perfect,
And blind as the LORD’s servant?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
So everything the disciples thought was from the words of Jesus?
Filtered through yet carnal minds.

You must deny Jesus or your building would crumble.
It will anyway.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
So everything the disciples thought was from the words of Jesus?
Filtered through yet carnal minds.

You must deny Jesus or your building would crumble.
It will anyway.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Jesus said he was greater than John and Jonah and Solomon and the Jewish temple.
But you claim to be greater than Jesus and able to judge him?
That is for you a long way to fall.

You should not quote the words of Jesus and then call him a false prophet.
If you do not believe him please stop quoting him

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,10:24)

Hi BD, Jesus said he was greater than John and Jonah and Solomon and the Jewish temple. But you claim to be greater than Jesus and able to judge him? That is for you a long way to fall. You should not quote the words of Jesus and then call him a false prophet. If you do not believe him please stop quoting him

The devil is a liar, you shouldn't bear false witness against me it is Satanic.

Tell the truth and show that your Father is not the Father of lies. Correct yourself and show that you believe in God

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You called Jesus a false prophet and yet you speak of him as a man approved by God.
Where does that leave you?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,18:07)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,09:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:46) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 11 2009,17:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,01:25) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 11 2009,16:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2009,22:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2009,14:19) Hi BD, Compare Jn 5.24 He was speaking of those who HAVE PASSED from death to life. John 5:24 (King James Version) 24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Nick, did you read that Jesus said some standing here would not taste death? Hebrews 9:26-28 (King James Version) 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: In other words they would have still had to die just like you say Jesus died. You will see something great in this thread because any scripture anyone chooses to use will further prove this truth that I give to you today. This thread was started by The Will of God to teach His children(those who say with their lips that they love Him) Hi BD I have already shown you that Enoch and Elijah did not taste of death. But, you deny the possibility that Jesus words were true and that some that were standing there may have not tasted of a physical death but went with Jesus like Enoch who was not for God took him. Here is a secret for you BD. If a different possibility lies with a scripture then that scripture is ambiguous. Therefore your assumptions about Jesus statements are not unambiguous which means you have proved nothing! Why do you not have any faith in Jesus to be able to do what he says? Is it because he is not your Saviour or your Prophet or that his Father is not your Father? It seems you have more faith in another god and another prophet and another bible! WJ So Enoch and Elijah went to heaven regardless of Jesus? Who went with Jesus and why didn't the Prophecy come true regardless of who went with Jesus? Hi BD You are assuming that the generation that Jesus was speaking of was in his time. But the generation he is speaking of is when all those things are fulfilled, then shall the end come. Again, your view is ambiguous and no proof that Jesus words were not true! WJ Jesus said “This” Generation not “That” generation in which these things happen. Also Jesus says “some standing here” would not taste death before it occured and also keep in mind that the temple was detroyed in His generation. There is absolutely nothing ambiguous about what I am saying it is clear that Jesus did not know and plus he said he did not know just like he didn't know that figs were not on the fig tree nor was there supposed to be figs on an out of season fig tree but he cursed the tree. Hi BD If what you say is true then Jesus would be a false prophet.. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” Deut 2:29 And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground. 1 Sam 3:19 In response to the disciples question… “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?” Luke 21:7 “I tell you the truth, this generation* will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luke 21:33, 34 What generation? Jesus said… “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the gentiles, until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24 “In Luke 21:24 “They”, is referring to the Jews, and “gentiles”  is referring to the non-Jews. So in the time when the Jews take over the land of Jerusalem, then the times of the gentiles is fulfilled. This didn't happen until 1948! Either Jesus is a lair and a false prophet or as he said… HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY: “BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY” Luke 21:34 WJ Nice try but “this generation” means the one that they were in. The scripture also shows that most of the disciples believed that Jesus was to return in their lifetime where do you think they got that belief from? The temple was destroyed 2000 tears ago and the event of 1948 has nothing to do with what you are saying and if so, still nothing has happened, besides that Jesus was talking to people of his day and told them it would happen in their day even saying some standing there would not taste death before it happened, why not admit the truth. Jesus did not say God told him to say what he said in-fact he said HE DID NOT KNOW so no he is not a false prophet but he was acting presumptuous having partial blindness Isaiah 42 19 Who is blind but My servant,      Or deaf as My messenger whom I send?      Who is blind as he who is perfect,      And blind as the LORD’s servant?

Hi BD

There is no nice try about it. Either you believe Jesus is a liar and a false prophet or you missunderstand his words.

The definition of a false prophet is unambiguous?

And your assumptions are ambiguous!

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,18:07)

Jesus d id not say God told him to say what he said in-fact he said HE DID NOT KNOW so no he is not a false prophet but he was acting presumptuous having partial blindness

“But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say“, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” Deut 2:29

WJ

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,11:50)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,18:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,09:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:46) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 11 2009,17:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,01:25) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 11 2009,16:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2009,22:25) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2009,14:19) Hi BD, Compare Jn 5.24 He was speaking of those who HAVE PASSED from death to life. John 5:24 (King James Version) 24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Nick, did you read that Jesus said some standing here would not taste death? Hebrews 9:26-28 (King James Version) 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: In other words they would have still had to die just like you say Jesus died. You will see something great in this thread because any scripture anyone chooses to use will further prove this truth that I give to you today. This thread was started by The Will of God to teach His children(those who say with their lips that they love Him) Hi BD I have already shown you that Enoch and Elijah did not taste of death. But, you deny the possibility that Jesus words were true and that some that were standing there may have not tasted of a physical death but went with Jesus like Enoch who was not for God took him. Here is a secret for you BD. If a different possibility lies with a scripture then that scripture is ambiguous. Therefore your assumptions about Jesus statements are not unambiguous which means you have proved nothing! Why do you not have any faith in Jesus to be able to do what he says? Is it because he is not your Saviour or your Prophet or that his Father is not your Father? It seems you have more faith in another god and another prophet and another bible! WJ So Enoch and Elijah went to heaven regardless of Jesus? Who went with Jesus and why didn't the Prophecy come true regardless of who went with Jesus? Hi BD You are assuming that the generation that Jesus was speaking of was in his time. But the generation he is speaking of is when all those things are fulfilled, then shall the end come. Again, your view is ambiguous and no proof that Jesus words were not true! WJ Jesus said “This” Generation not “That” generation in which these things happen. Also Jesus says “some standing here” would not taste death before it occured and also keep in mind that the temple was detroyed in His generation. There is absolutely nothing ambiguous about what I am saying it is clear that Jesus did not know and plus he said he did not know just like he didn't know that figs were not on the fig tree nor was there supposed to be figs on an out of season fig tree but he cursed the tree. Hi BD If what you say is true then Jesus would be a false prophet.. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” Deut 2:29 And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground. 1 Sam 3:19 In response to the disciples question… “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?” Luke 21:7 “I tell you the truth, this generation* will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luke 21:33, 34 What generation? Jesus said… “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the gentiles, until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24 “In Luke 21:24 “They”, is referring to the Jews, and “gentiles”  is referring to the non-Jews. So in the time when the Jews take over the land of Jerusalem, then the times of the gentiles is fulfilled. This didn't happen until 1948! Either Jesus is a lair and a false prophet or as he said… HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY: “BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY” Luke 21:34 WJ Nice try but “this generation” means the one that they were in. The scripture also shows that most of the disciples believed that Jesus was to return in their lifetime where do you think they got that belief from? The temple was destroyed 2000 tears ago and the event of 1948 has nothing to do with what you are saying and if so, still nothing has happened, besides that Jesus was talking to people of his day and told them it would happen in their day even saying some standing there would not taste death before it happened, why not admit the truth. Jesus did not say God told him to say what he said in-fact he said HE DID NOT KNOW so no he is not a false prophet but he was acting presumptuous having partial blindness Isaiah 42 19 Who is blind but My servant,      Or deaf as My messenger whom I send?      Who is blind as he who is perfect,      And blind as the LORD’s servant? Hi BD There is no nice try about it. Either you believe Jesus is a liar and a false prophet or you missunderstand his words. The definition of a false prophet is unambiguous? And your assumptions are ambiguous! Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,18:07) Jesus did not say God told him to say what he said in-fact he said HE DID NOT KNOW so no he is not a false prophet but he was acting presumptuous having partial blindness “But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say“, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” Deut 2:29 WJ

WJ

Quote where I said that Jesus said that God commanded him to say those presumptuous things? In-fact I made it clear that Jesus said HE DID NOT KNOW, so he said what he said on his own i.e. he presumed in his own name.

I did not call him a false prophet and you even quoted me saying that he wasn't a false prophet, why be Satanic and bear false witness?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,20:31)

WJ Quote where I said that Jesus said that God commanded him to say those presumptuous things? In-fact I made it clear that Jesus said HE DID NOT KNOW, so he said what he said on his own i.e. he presumed in his own name. I did not call him a false prophet and you even quoted me saying that he wasn't a false prophet, why be Satanic and bear false witness?

Hi BD

Its not a matter of whether Jesus said God told him to say those things. His followers percieved that he was a Prophet from God and took his words as the words of God.

have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. ….”If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?” John 5:43, 46, 47

The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, “for I always do what pleases him“.” John 8:29

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. John 14:24

But you do not believe his words and think that he missed God which would be sin.

If you speak of things that God will bring to pass and it does not come to pass you are a false prophet!

Jesus never miss spoke and always said and did those things that pleased the Father.

He claimed that heaven and earth will pass away but “His words will not pass away“?

But you have accused him of being in error with his words!

It is by his words that you and I will be judged!

WJ

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,12:53)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,20:31) WJ Quote where I said that Jesus said that God commanded him to say those presumptuous things? In-fact I made it clear that Jesus said HE DID NOT KNOW, so he said what he said on his own i.e. he presumed in his own name. I did not call him a false prophet and you even quoted me saying that he wasn't a false prophet, why be Satanic and bear false witness? Hi BD Its not a matter of whether Jesus said God told him to say those things. His followers percieved that he was a Prophet from God and took his words as the words of God. have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. ….”If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?” John 5:43, 46, 47 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, “for I always do what pleases him“.” John 8:29 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. John 14:24 But you do not believe his words and think that he missed God which would be sin. If you speak of things that God will bring to pass and it does not come to pass you are a false prophet! Jesus never miss spoke and always said and did those things that pleased the Father. He claimed that heaven and earth will pass away but “His words will not pass away“? But you have accused him of being in error with his words! It is by his words that you and I will be judged! WJ

Your going to have to explain why Jesus though there might be figs on the fig tree?

[NickHassan]

hi BD,
The figtree should have known he was coming by.
That was the failure.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,21:53)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,12:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,20:31) WJ Quote where I said that Jesus said that God commanded him to say those presumptuous things? In-fact I made it clear that Jesus said HE DID NOT KNOW, so he said what he said on his own i.e. he presumed in his own name. I did not call him a false prophet and you even quoted me saying that he wasn't a false prophet, why be Satanic and bear false witness? Hi BD Its not a matter of whether Jesus said God told him to say those things. His followers percieved that he was a Prophet from God and took his words as the words of God. have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. ….”If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?” John 5:43, 46, 47 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, “for I always do what pleases him“.” John 8:29 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. John 14:24 But you do not believe his words and think that he missed God which would be sin. If you speak of things that God will bring to pass and it does not come to pass you are a false prophet! Jesus never miss spoke and always said and did those things that pleased the Father. He claimed that heaven and earth will pass away but “His words will not pass away“? But you have accused him of being in error with his words! It is by his words that you and I will be judged! WJ Your going to have to explain why Jesus though there might be figs on the fig tree?

Hi BD

Why did the tree wither and die when he cursed it?

It's simple, because it didn't bear fruit when he was present.

Then Jesus said…

In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” “HAVE FAITH IN GOD,” Jesus answered. Mark 11:20-22

Jesus also said…

I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. “HOWEVER, WHEN THE SON OF MAN COMES, WILL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH?” Luke 18:8

But it seems you would rather doubt his words.

Rather than seeing the miracle of the tree withering and dieing within the same day that Jesus cursed it for not baring fruit, you would rather find fault in Jesus by accusing him of being ignorant!

Seriously, why don't you go find fault in mohammad and the qoran!

WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
If the people had not greeted the king on the donkey the stones would have cried out.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,14:11)

hi BD, The figtree should have known he was coming by. That was the failure.

Now you are blaming fig trees?
That is really funny but the question is:

Why did he think that there would be figs on the tree?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD.,
All creation will serve him and be brought into order.
The lion will lie down with the lamb and the child play in the asp's next.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,19:15)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,21:53) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,12:53) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,20:31) WJ Quote where I said that Jesus said that God commanded him to say those presumptuous things? In-fact I made it clear that Jesus said HE DID NOT KNOW, so he said what he said on his own i.e. he presumed in his own name. I did not call him a false prophet and you even quoted me saying that he wasn't a false prophet, why be Satanic and bear false witness? Hi BD Its not a matter of whether Jesus said God told him to say those things. His followers percieved that he was a Prophet from God and took his words as the words of God. have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. ….”If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?” John 5:43, 46, 47 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, “for I always do what pleases him“.” John 8:29 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. John 14:24 But you do not believe his words and think that he missed God which would be sin. If you speak of things that God will bring to pass and it does not come to pass you are a false prophet! Jesus never miss spoke and always said and did those things that pleased the Father. He claimed that heaven and earth will pass away but “His words will not pass away“? But you have accused him of being in error with his words! It is by his words that you and I will be judged! WJ Your going to have to explain why Jesus though there might be figs on the fig tree? Hi BD Why did the tree wither and die when he cursed it? It's simple, because it didn't bear fruit when he was present. Then Jesus said… In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” “HAVE FAITH IN GOD,” Jesus answered. Mark 11:20-22 Jesus also said… I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. “HOWEVER, WHEN THE SON OF MAN COMES, WILL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH?” Luke 18:8 But it seems you would rather doubt his words. Rather than seeing the miracle of the tree withering and dieing within the same day that Jesus cursed it for not baring fruit, you would rather find fault in Jesus by accusing him of being ignorant! Seriously, why don't you go find fault in mohammad and the qoran! WJ

Wow! That is unbelieveable you will think up anything to not face the truth.

You are actually blaming a tree that can't think or bear fruit at will, it bears fruit in its season, Now you say that Jesus is God so therefore didn't he create the seasons and order plant life to obey those cycles?

The facts are simple Jesus was HUNGRY like humans and he saw a fig tree and presumed that there might be some figs on it so he could EAT like humans do but when he realized(Because he did not Know) that there were none he was upset and cursed the fig tree.

That is what happened according to the scriptures. I don't doubt the words of Jesus I doubt your desire to really want to know the words of Jesus.

Would Jesus not knowing about the figs or The Hour of his return change your opinion about him? Would he not still be The Christ?

There is height, width, and depth so don't be shallow.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,21:19)

Hi BD., All creation will serve him and be brought into order. The lion will lie down with the lamb and the child play in the asp's next.

I don't have a problem with that, but you keep missing the point.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You claim to be able to read the mind of Jesus without even sharing his Holy Spirit?
You have no clues really and rely on instinct and presumption.

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