Some say that Jesus wasn&#8217;t anointed till his baptism

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Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

May 29, 2014 at 5:26 am#385311

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nick

you so know who you are not ,

but do you know who you are

May 29, 2014 at 7:33 am#385339

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Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

Yes. They have been blinded.

wakeup.

May 29, 2014 at 7:36 am#385341

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Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

Yes. They have been blinded.

wakeup.

true ,but by their very own mind and heart

May 29, 2014 at 4:03 pm#385383

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Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

Yes. They have been blinded.

wakeup.

true ,but by their very own mind and heart

John 12:40
***He hath blinded their eyes***,
***and hardened their heart***;
that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

wakeup.

May 29, 2014 at 5:33 pm#385391

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Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

Yes. They have been blinded.

wakeup.

true ,but by their very own mind and heart

John 12:40
***He hath blinded their eyes***,
***and hardened their heart***;
that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

wakeup.

wup

did God harden Pharaoh heart not really he did it to himself ,it was the way God bring it to him that was his own stumbling block

so it is with all those that do not accept the truth ;

what is it that make some see the truth and same not

it is what they have in their mind and heart ,God is open to all but all do not want God to heal them

May 29, 2014 at 7:08 pm#385410

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HI WU,
Yes obey the commands and the scales will fall from your eyes.

May 30, 2014 at 12:32 am#385463

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2014,01:08)

HI WU,
Yes obey the commands and the scales will fall from your eyes.

one day Christ heals 10 blind people but only one came back after he was healed do you remember what Christ said to him

none of them obey the commandments more as they could because they were blind physically blind that is ,

but only one became spiritually clean and sew what it was like ,

the 9 others were satisfied in their world

May 30, 2014 at 2:25 am#385520

Ed J

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The word of god was an adult in Heaven

This is the most ridiculous claim I have heard out of you so far.

May 30, 2014 at 2:28 am#385521

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Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

Yes. They have been blinded.

wakeup.

true ,but by their very own mind and heart

John 12:40
***He hath blinded their eyes***,
***and hardened their heart***;
that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

wakeup.

wup

did God harden Pharaoh heart not really he did it to himself ,it was the way God bring it to him that was his own stumbling block

so it is with all those that do not accept the truth ;

what is it that make some see the truth and same not

it is what they have in their mind and heart ,God is open to all but all do not want God to heal them

God has done this, on pupose. Not men.

Isaiah 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little;
***that they might go***,
***and fall backward***,
***and be broken***,
***and snared, and taken***.

wakeup.

May 30, 2014 at 2:40 am#385525

Ed J

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Hi Wakeup,

It was done that way to keep people from using Scripture to promote their own agenda.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 30, 2014 at 3:14 am#385539

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,14:03)

Hi WU,
Were not the Lawyers and Pharisees opponents of Jesus because they were still blind by their rebellion?

Yes. They have been blinded.

wakeup.

true ,but by their very own mind and heart

John 12:40
***He hath blinded their eyes***,
***and hardened their heart***;
that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

wakeup.

wup

did God harden Pharaoh heart not really he did it to himself ,it was the way God bring it to him that was his own stumbling block

so it is with all those that do not accept the truth ;

what is it that make some see the truth and same not

it is what they have in their mind and heart ,God is open to all but all do not want God to heal them

God has done this, on pupose. Not men.

wakeup.

wakeup

is it God doing that we cannot understand his scriptures

May 30, 2014 at 3:59 am#385557

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Hi WU,
How does adulthood apply to the Spirit of Christ?

May 30, 2014 at 4:23 am#385571

Ed J

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Hi Nick, here's how…

“And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit,
filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.” (Luke 2:40)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 30, 2014 at 4:38 am#385574

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Hi MB,
Yes .
He had a great Father.
But life knocked him around
Is 53
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Folk even said
Physician heal thyself

June 12, 2014 at 3:25 pm#388639

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Hi MB,
Yes .
He had a great Father.
But life knocked him around
Is 53
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Folk even said
Physician heal thyself

Jn 3:10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?
Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

are you not one of those people that do not accept Christ testimony ???yes you are

June 15, 2014 at 12:50 am#388961

942767

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Hi Wakeup:

You ask:

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Marty.

You dont believe that the child was conceived by the Holy Spirit?
When did the Holy Spirit leave Him?
And back again at the jordan?

Can you explain?

wakeup.

Wakeup:

The scripture states that he was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary. When he was born into this world of the virgin Mary that means that God is His Father, and the virgin Mary is His mother.

There is nothing said here of the Holy Spirit dwelling within him.

He was raised by Joseph (his earthly father) and Mary his mother Jews under the Law of Moses. Jews under the Law of Moses do not have the Holy Spirit unless they are prophets.

And Jesus was a prophet during his ministry on earth, but he was not sent forth and used in that role until his ministry. He received the HS at that time because the scripture states that, and nothing more needs to be said. If the scripture does not say it, you should say it, otherwise you make God out to say something HE did not say.

That is what is wrong with your statement here in this thread. God did not state “the Word was and adult in heaven prior to coming to earth.

You are trying to understand the scripture which states: “All things were created by him, and without him was nothing made that was made”, and so search the scriptures to see what that means. If there is a scripture which states that he existed in heaven as a person, then post it, and I will believe it, but otherwise, I will never believe something that just a statement of “opinion” based on your understanding of the scriptures, and you should never accept it either.

Love in Christ
Marty

June 15, 2014 at 10:44 am#388984

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Marty.

Jesus was from everlasting.

Isaiah 9:6
***For unto us a child is born***,
***unto us a son is given***:
***and the government shall be upon his shoulder***: ***and his name shall be called Wonderful***, ***Counsellor, The mighty God***,
***The everlasting Father***,
***The Prince of Peace***.

The child is the mighty God and the everlasting Father.

And you say he was not before the earth was.

wakeup.

June 16, 2014 at 12:50 am#389044

942767

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2014,21:44)

Marty.

Jesus was from everlasting.

The child is the mighty God and the everlasting Father.

And you say he was not before the earth was.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup:

He is from everlasting because he was fore-ordained. When God began to create the heavens and the earth and the host thereof, he had a plan as to how he was going to do it and why he was doing it and everything else about it.

It was in God's plan from the beginning that His plan would be fulfilled through His giving of His Only Begotten Son and His Christ at a specific point in time. (That is what is meant by the statement that he is from everlasting)

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Col 1:12
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Col 1:13
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Col 1:14
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Col 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Col 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Col 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Col 1:19

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Col 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Love in Christ,
Marty

June 16, 2014 at 3:52 am#389052