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- April 9, 2011 at 12:13 pm#242697TimothyVIParticipant
Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.Tim
April 10, 2011 at 1:45 am#242739StuParticipantApril 10, 2011 at 1:49 am#242740StuParticipantApril 10, 2011 at 1:51 am#242741StuParticipantMay 26, 2011 at 10:03 pm#246975ProclaimerParticipantNice picture Stu.
I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.
May 26, 2011 at 10:05 pm#246976ProclaimerParticipantQuote (t8 @ Mar. 21 2011,20:12) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 19 2011,23:42) Would you like a list of smart Romans who believed in Bacchus?
Yes please.BTW, you don't have to quote a post if you are replying to the one above. It makes it harder to follow a thread when you do that.
Hey, what happened to this list?
I gave you one that contained brilliant scientists who believed in an even more brilliant God.
Now it is your turn to provide your list of smart Romans who believed in Bacchus.May 26, 2011 at 10:06 pm#246977ProclaimerParticipantQuote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13) Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.Tim
Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.May 26, 2011 at 10:08 pm#246978ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 08 2011,15:48) Quote (t8 @ April 07 2011,13:39) It sort of shows how godlessness has increased as we know it will. It shows up the generation that we live in I think.
You say it like it's a bad thing!Stuart
The truth isn't always good that is true.May 27, 2011 at 11:15 am#247030TimothyVIParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:06) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13) Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.Tim
Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.
Do you think?Tim
May 27, 2011 at 11:58 am#247032StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:03) Nice picture Stu. I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.
I don't think that is how photography works, is it?Stuart
May 27, 2011 at 12:00 pm#247033StuParticipantQuote (TimothyVI @ May 27 2011,22:15) Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:06) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13) Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.Tim
Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.
Do you think?Tim
I see t8 has little to say on the subject so he is just resorting to out and out charm now. A kind of charm offensive…Stuart
May 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm#247174davidParticipantQuote Here are just a couple of quotes from Albert Einstein.
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
— Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University PressThe word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.
— Albert Einstein, in a letter responding to philosopher Eric Gutkind, who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt; quoted from James Randerson, “Childish Superstition: Einstein's Letter Makes View of Religion Relatively Clear: Scientist's Reply to Sell for up to £8,000, and Stoke Debate over His Beliefs” The Guardian, (13 May 2008)I was just off to look for these same quotes. If Einstein believed in something that he called a “god” it was nothing in the slightest like the personal God of the Bible. Einstein even predicted that his words would be twisted to make it appear otherwise.
May 31, 2011 at 1:38 am#247380ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ May 27 2011,23:00) Quote (TimothyVI @ May 27 2011,22:15) Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:06) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13) Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.Tim
Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.
Do you think?Tim
I see t8 has little to say on the subject so he is just resorting to out and out charm now. A kind of charm offensive…Stuart
Heaps actually.May 31, 2011 at 1:42 am#247381ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ May 27 2011,22:58) Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:03) Nice picture Stu. I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.
I don't think that is how photography works, is it?Stuart
I like the fact that photography and photography equipment doesn't need any intelligence or design whatsoever to produce that photo/picture that appears logical or real.Given the amount of random photos been taken by non-intelligent processes it is easy to imagine that eventually a picture that encompasses design will emerge. In fact billions of pictures can be achieved this way. No need for intelligent input whatsoever.
Are we on the same page now?
July 18, 2011 at 2:33 pm#252846LightenupParticipantHere is a video lecture of “Creation as Science.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v….8185DC8
Enjoy,
KathiJuly 19, 2011 at 12:02 am#252876StuParticipantWatched the first 12 min then gave up. He said nothing.
The guy is a moron. He says he will show there are testable claims for creationism but just gives pat statements then tacks on “which is consistent with the biblical god”. That is NOT the same thing as saying creationism is testable.
Unless you would like to watch the whole thing then tell me if there is any point at all in which he makes a testable creationist claim. Or tell me what you think his single most telling argument is.
Creationists really don't care about the ninth commandment, obviously.
Stuart
July 19, 2011 at 12:12 am#252879StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ May 31 2011,12:42) Quote (Stu @ May 27 2011,22:58) Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:03) Nice picture Stu. I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.
I don't think that is how photography works, is it?Stuart
I like the fact that photography and photography equipment doesn't need any intelligence or design whatsoever to produce that photo/picture that appears logical or real.Given the amount of random photos been taken by non-intelligent processes it is easy to imagine that eventually a picture that encompasses design will emerge. In fact billions of pictures can be achieved this way. No need for intelligent input whatsoever.
Are we on the same page now?
There are caves that act as pinhole cameras. I can't find a reference for it but I remember a story of a cave that contained a deposit of a silver ore that had changed colour according to the light that had formed the pinhole image, therefore providing a natural photograph.Stuart
November 2, 2011 at 6:02 am#261673ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ July 19 2011,11:02) Watched the first 12 min then gave up. He said nothing. The guy is a moron. He says he will show there are testable claims for creationism but just gives pat statements then tacks on “which is consistent with the biblical god”. That is NOT the same thing as saying creationism is testable.
Unless you would like to watch the whole thing then tell me if there is any point at all in which he makes a testable creationist claim. Or tell me what you think his single most telling argument is.
Creationists really don't care about the ninth commandment, obviously.
Stuart
Stu, you are not even in the same ball park as this guy. Why let this fact result in you attacking him with your mediocre mind?November 2, 2011 at 6:02 am#261674charityParticipantQuoting t8's large list of smart scientists who believe in God.
I agree they are very smart scientists t8, no doubts, an I am sure if they lived to see man arrive on the moon, WINDOWS 7, an the 12,000 year old temple remains they would question an an reajust, or they would never keep up with the glorified job, as also the disciples of Jesus might say….He hasn't come back yet? I didn't expect that sort of delay. only one generation was to pass..eeks
Do You think they would still stand there an preach the same words 2000 yrs latter?cheers
November 2, 2011 at 7:24 am#261676ProclaimerParticipantThese smart scientists lived not that long ago.
The question of Jesus coming back would be the same to someone even in the seventeenth century, (when Sir Isaac Newton died for example).And Windows Vista wouldn't change anyone's opinion on anything except those who might have thought Microsoft had style.
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