Smart scientists who believed in God.

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  • #242697
    TimothyVI
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    Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
    things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.

    Tim

    #242739
    Stu
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    #242740
    Stu
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    #242741
    Stu
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    #246975
    Proclaimer
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    Nice picture Stu.

    I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.

    #246976
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 21 2011,20:12)

    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 19 2011,23:42)
    Would you like a list of smart Romans who believed in Bacchus?


    Yes please.

    BTW, you don't have to quote a post if you are replying to the one above. It makes it harder to follow a thread when you do that.


    Hey, what happened to this list?
    I gave you one that contained brilliant scientists who believed in an even more brilliant God.
    Now it is your turn to provide your list of smart Romans who believed in Bacchus.

    #246977
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    Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13)
    Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
    things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.

    Tim


    Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.

    #246978
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    Quote (Stu @ April 08 2011,15:48)

    Quote (t8 @ April 07 2011,13:39)
    It sort of shows how godlessness has increased as we know it will. It shows up the generation that we live in I think.


    You say it like it's a bad thing!

    Stuart


    The truth isn't always good that is true.

    #247030
    TimothyVI
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    Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:06)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13)
    Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
    things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.

    Tim


    Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.


    Do you think?

    Tim

    #247032
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:03)
    Nice picture Stu.

    I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.


    I don't think that is how photography works, is it?

    Stuart

    #247033
    Stu
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    Quote (TimothyVI @ May 27 2011,22:15)

    Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:06)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13)
    Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
    things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.

    Tim


    Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.


    Do you think?

    Tim


    I see t8 has little to say on the subject so he is just resorting to out and out charm now. A kind of charm offensive…

    Stuart

    #247174
    david
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    Here are just a couple of quotes from Albert Einstein.
    It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
    — Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press

    The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.
    — Albert Einstein, in a letter responding to philosopher Eric Gutkind, who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt; quoted from James Randerson, “Childish Superstition: Einstein's Letter Makes View of Religion Relatively Clear: Scientist's Reply to Sell for up to £8,000, and Stoke Debate over His Beliefs” The Guardian, (13 May 2008)

    I was just off to look for these same quotes. If Einstein believed in something that he called a “god” it was nothing in the slightest like the personal God of the Bible. Einstein even predicted that his words would be twisted to make it appear otherwise.

    #247380
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    Quote (Stu @ May 27 2011,23:00)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ May 27 2011,22:15)

    Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:06)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ April 09 2011,23:13)
    Instead of the shadow, Magellan should have gotten his clues from the way
    things disappeared over the horizon on the ocean. He spent most of his life sailing.

    Tim


    Pity you weren't alive then. We would all be so much better off I guess.


    Do you think?

    Tim


    I see t8 has little to say on the subject so he is just resorting to out and out charm now.  A kind of charm offensive…

    Stuart


    Heaps actually.

    #247381
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    Quote (Stu @ May 27 2011,22:58)

    Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:03)
    Nice picture Stu.

    I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.


    I don't think that is how photography works, is it?

    Stuart


    I like the fact that photography and photography equipment doesn't need any intelligence or design whatsoever to produce that photo/picture that appears logical or real.

    Given the amount of random photos been taken by non-intelligent processes it is easy to imagine that eventually a picture that encompasses design will emerge. In fact billions of pictures can be achieved this way. No need for intelligent input whatsoever.

    Are we on the same page now?

    #252846
    Lightenup
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    Here is a video lecture of “Creation as Science.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v….8185DC8

    Enjoy,
    Kathi

    #252876
    Stu
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    Watched the first 12 min then gave up. He said nothing.

    The guy is a moron. He says he will show there are testable claims for creationism but just gives pat statements then tacks on “which is consistent with the biblical god”. That is NOT the same thing as saying creationism is testable.

    Unless you would like to watch the whole thing then tell me if there is any point at all in which he makes a testable creationist claim. Or tell me what you think his single most telling argument is.

    Creationists really don't care about the ninth commandment, obviously.

    Stuart

    #252879
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ May 31 2011,12:42)

    Quote (Stu @ May 27 2011,22:58)

    Quote (t8 @ May 27 2011,09:03)
    Nice picture Stu.

    I like the fact that the pixels rearranged themselves to form a logical construct without any intelligent designer or artist.


    I don't think that is how photography works, is it?

    Stuart


    I like the fact that photography and photography equipment doesn't need any intelligence or design whatsoever to produce that photo/picture that appears logical or real.

    Given the amount of random photos been taken by non-intelligent processes it is easy to imagine that eventually a picture that encompasses design will emerge. In fact billions of pictures can be achieved this way. No need for intelligent input whatsoever.

    Are we on the same page now?


    There are caves that act as pinhole cameras. I can't find a reference for it but I remember a story of a cave that contained a deposit of a silver ore that had changed colour according to the light that had formed the pinhole image, therefore providing a natural photograph.

    Stuart

    #261673
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    Quote (Stu @ July 19 2011,11:02)
    Watched the first 12 min then gave up.  He said nothing.

    The guy is a moron.  He says he will show there are testable claims for creationism but just gives pat statements then tacks on “which is consistent with the biblical god”.  That is NOT the same thing as saying creationism is testable.

    Unless you would like to watch the whole thing then tell me if there is any point at all in which he makes a testable creationist claim.  Or tell me what you think his single most telling argument is.

    Creationists really don't care about the ninth commandment, obviously.  

    Stuart


    Stu, you are not even in the same ball park as this guy. Why let this fact result in you attacking him with your mediocre mind?

    #261674
    charity
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    Quoting t8's large list of smart scientists who believe in God.

    I agree they are very smart scientists t8, no doubts, an I am sure if they lived to see man arrive on the moon, WINDOWS 7,  an the 12,000 year old temple remains they would question an an reajust, or they would never keep up with the glorified job, as also the disciples of Jesus might say….He hasn't come back yet? I didn't expect that sort of delay. only one generation was to pass..eeks
    Do You think they would still stand there an preach the same words 2000 yrs latter?

    cheers

    #261676
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    These smart scientists lived not that long ago.
    The question of Jesus coming back would be the same to someone even in the seventeenth century, (when Sir Isaac Newton died for example).

    And Windows Vista wouldn't change anyone's opinion on anything except those who might have thought Microsoft had style.

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