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Charity The Question here is who blieves in God and who bliefs in Jesus. It has very little to do with Love. I have not always gone with Ken on to many points , but on this one I agree. It is not wise to have a conversation on a Christian Website about if there even is a God or if Jesus is our Savior? To me that makes no sense. That I can do on the outside world. I came here to conversate with Christians, not that I constantly have to defend my Faith. I have no intrest in that. So it has comes down to that Christains take the side of an unbeliever rather then another Christian. That I am sorry makes me very sad. Oh, well I have lost friends before because of my beliefs, I can again. I will always stand for the right things, that is God and our Savior Jesus Christ. On that Rock I will stand forever. He has called me and I will follow. How about you?
Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 26 2007,10:56) t8,
If an unbeliever is not allowed in the Scripture thread, how will he possibly become a Christian? By only being allowed in threads with other non-believer's? This doesn't quite make sense, and possibly I'm misunderstanding you? Will the non-beliver's be able to view the thread but not post? But then what if they have a question? Are they not able to ask a Christian anything? HmmmmI agree with Tim and Kejonn that if some here want an inclusive (or exclusive) club for Christians – there are plenty out there for them to join. What if this site only allowed those who don't believe in the Trinity? Then we would not have fellowship with WJ and other's who are Trinitarian. What a huge loss that would be!
I still stand by my suggesstion to enlarge the rules to include the respect of God and his nature. If non-believer's cannot follow the rules, then after the appropriate warnings received…….they're out! That way, if they are harrassing anyone – they won't be able to do it for long.
To be perfectly honest, how do you determine a “believer” anyway? Some “believe” that Jesus is God – other's do not. Are the ones that believe he is God believer's and the other's non-believer's? Or is it just those who consider themselves “Christians” that would be allowed full posting privileges? I know some folks who by my definition are non-believer's but they consider themselves “Christians.”. Who would decide what being a Christian means? Would there be definition posted and an evaluation form to fill out? You see where I'm going with this.
Besides, it's human nature to surround controversy. It's why we slow down on the Interstate to “look” at the mangled car wreck. It's why we love drama. It's why our 5 O'clock news is filled with murder and mayhem versus good samaritan stories. If we had threads only open to non-believer's…….I bet they would be popular threads (used by non and believer's alike). It would become the place where you would feel free to talk about anything. Kind of like what we enjoy NOW.
Hi Not3in1 and everyone else.I am not saying that it is my way or the highway, but I am expressing my opinion and am actually also happy to keep it the way it is with rules that bar users from changing the subject. Although I made the point that this would be very hard to administer.
As far as non-believers forums, I wasn't thinking along those lines. Rather forums for all that includes believers and non-believers alike. These forums would be suitable for debating things like is there a God, what one must do to obtain salvation, or science etc.
Just to make the record straight. Heaven Net discussions are sorted this way:
BBS > Categories > Forums > Discussions/threads
An example of the above is:
Heaven Net > GENERAL STUFF > Creation & Science > BananasSo a forum is really a grouping of discussions and not the whole BBS (Bulleting Board).
So if there was a believer only area, it could take place at Category level. Something like:
- SCRIPTURE & DOCTRINE for believers only.
- GUESTBOOK, PRAYER & ADVICE , GENERAL STUFF, HELPDESK for all members (believer and non-believer alike).
Or it could be that some forums are open to believers only, such as “Scripture & Biblical Doctrine”, Truth or Tradition?, Biblical Prophecy, & Bible Trivia while all others are open to all members, which includes: “The Bible” too. As I think that non-believers can contribute good things regarding biblical texts, etc.
The reason of course is to allow believers a non-hindered experience when talking about scriptural teachings.
It seems to me that so far, we cannot really progress beyond defending the basics such as does God exist, in many of the scriptural discussions.I would assume that the enemy will just bring more unbelievers to stop us from making any kind of progress in this forum. I tend to think this weaknesses will only be exploited more and more, as it is within the nature of our adversaries to do so. Remember that one of the antichrist's tactics is to wear down the saints.
I know I spend a good amount of time deleting spammers who register here, and time wasters are only increasing here and in the rest of the WWW too. I also think people who post the same thing in unrelated discussions are spammers too.
That said, another option is to make people stick to the topic of the discussion. For this to work however, members would need to report posts that are not related to the topic. A blind eye could be turned for most, as they may only be slight deviations or a deviation to prove a point that is ultimately related to the topic. But when someone speaks bad about God or a person, then if it were reported to a moderator, it could lead to increasing the warning level of that member. After 5 warnings, that member would lose posting rights and thus there would be a weeding out of trouble makers.
However, a believer only “Scripture & Doctrine” category (or at least some of the forums contained therein) could eliminate most of the administration and also make it easier, clearer, and more interesting for others to read the discussions without having to contend with unbelievers who will try and stop progress of a discussion or degrade the quality of a discussion.
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