Should a muslim be able to post in believers area?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 18 2009,13:19)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2009,21:12) Consider the hypocrisy T8 You say you don't believe that Jesus is God and yet you prefer to take the advice of someone literally called WORSHIPING JESUS how Ironic WJ certainly has hope for you eventually believeing in the TRINITY, which you confer that if I accept it I would suddenly be a believer to you. BD For your information t8 worships Jesus for the scriptures show men worshipping him! t8 does not agree with the way I see Jesus in relation to his nature but that has nothig to do with believing Jesus is Divine and worthy of praise! WJ

As far as I know T8 worshiped Jesus as Christ not as God but now I am not so sure. You worship Jesus as God you know you believe in 3 persons being God so why not confess what you believe everyone already knows anyway but t8 doesn't care how many persons of God you claim to him you are a believer.

The fact is it seems to me that he wants to blot out the message of the Quran because people are responding to it, if it were false he should have no problem with it, that's why he has no problem with trinitarians because just applying a little reason and logic it can be easily dismissed but not so easy with the Quran because it is the TRUTH FROM GOD if it were not there wouldn't be such discomfort.

[Proclaimer]

BD, you can do what you want with the Quran, in the appropriate place.

This area is for the bible and those who believe it's message. Especially who Jesus is.

You may have noticed that we even have atheists here. They cannot post here, but there is a place where interaction takes place.

I do not agree with the Trinity, but even Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God. They have just added a further doctrine, that he is God too. I disagree with that, but that doesn't discount one as a believer.

This place is for those who believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God who died for the sins of humanity and rose again to be seated at the right hand of God.

I know that the Quaran does not agree with this.

Personally speaking, if you had not quoted the Quran, then I might not have bothered about creating this discussion. I would have the same reservations if a Mormon came here quoting the Book of Mormon. Not because I am threatened by the Book of Mormon and not that I am threatened by the Quran either, but that both are not appropriate here.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,13:52)

BD, you can do what you want with the Quran, in the appropriate place. This area is for the bible and those who believe it's message. Especially who Jesus is. You may have noticed that we even have atheists here. They cannot post here, but there is a place where interaction takes place. I do not agree with the Trinity, but even Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God. They have just added a further doctrine, that he is God too. I disagree with that, but that doesn't discount one as a believer. This place is for those who believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God who died for the sins of humanity and rose again to be seated at the right hand of God. I know that the Quaran does not agree with this. Personally speaking, if you had not quoted the Quran, then I might not have bothered about creating this discussion. I would have the same reservations if a Mormon came here quoting the Book of Mormon. Not because I am threatened by the Book of Mormon and not that I am threatened by the Quran either, but that both are not appropriate here.

Neither is any discussion regarding the triple personage of God which is THE FIRST and GRATEST COMMANDMENT

Jesus said there were two great commandments and yet you allow the first and most important to be trampled upon.

Neither of these commandments that Jesus gaveare being violated by what I speak about but the first and most important one is violated when talking about the trinity. you are clearly in the wrong.

[Proclaimer]

Believers can still be guilty of all sorts of things, including tolerating Jezebel who misleads them into sexual immorality, luke warmness, forsaking their first love, holding to the teaching of Balaam, being spirtually dead, etc. If that was the first century, how many more traps do you think God's people will be subjected to over the following near 2000 year period? Well surely we need to add the influence of Babylon which God says "<b>Come out of her, my people</b>, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues".

Outside of the Church and her problems is another matter. A matter that is not the subject of this category on Heaven Net.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2009,22:45)

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,13:52) BD, you can do what you want with the Quran, in the appropriate place. This area is for the bible and those who believe it's message. Especially who Jesus is. You may have noticed that we even have atheists here. They cannot post here, but there is a place where interaction takes place. I do not agree with the Trinity, but even Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God. They have just added a further doctrine, that he is God too. I disagree with that, but that doesn't discount one as a believer. This place is for those who believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God who died for the sins of humanity and rose again to be seated at the right hand of God. I know that the Quaran does not agree with this. Personally speaking, if you had not quoted the Quran, then I might not have bothered about creating this discussion. I would have the same reservations if a Mormon came here quoting the Book of Mormon. Not because I am threatened by the Book of Mormon and not that I am threatened by the Quran either, but that both are not appropriate here. Neither is any discussion regarding the triple personage of God which is THE FIRST and GRATEST COMMANDMENT Jesus said there were two great commandments and yet you allow the first and most important to be trampled upon. Neither of these commandments that Jesus gaveare being violated by what I speak about but the first and most important one is violated when talking about the trinity. you are clearly in the wrong.

BD

Are you just hard headed or hard at hearing!

Trinitarians believe the basic tenants of the faith which are…

1. Jesus is the Only Son of God

2. Jesus died for our sins by shedding his blood

3. Jesus was buried

4. Jesus rose from the dead three days later

5. The Bible is the inspired word of God

You do not believe any of those things, but only push the Muslim religion over the scriptures and Christianity!

You can do that if you like in other threads but t8 is saying that you can not do that in the believers threads that are discussing the Bible and Christianity!

We are discussing the Bible and do not need or want to have the Koran plastering the pages!

Why should this be a problem for you since threads are limited to particular subjects anyway?

I suppose it could be that not many will care to discuss the Koran here on a Biblical sight!

WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
Only Son?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,18:00)

Believers can still be guilty of all sorts of things, including tolerating Jezebel who misleads them into sexual immorality, luke warmness, forsaking their first love, holding to the teaching of Balaam, being spirtually dead, etc. If that was the first century, how many more traps do you think God's people will be subjected to over the following near 2000 year period? Well surely we need to add the influence of Babylon which God says "<b>Come out of her, my people</b>, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues". Outside of the Church and her problems is another matter. A matter that is not the subject of this category on Heaven Net.

Believers cannot be guilty of violating the first commandment and still be called a "believer" as I said before Jesus is sent by God and is The Christ but your Worship of God is the key element of your salvation.

Jesus himself said it, so while you keep saying "lord, lord" to Jesus, your iniquity(Not you specifically) will not save you at all it is God whom we must believe in and if you believe in God through Jesus Christ, Praise God! But if someone is calling Jesus "God" and you are saying that is not a problem greater than someone who WORSHIPS GOD with exclusive devotion I would think you misunderstand the scriptures.

I put Christ in his appointed place as CHRIST the anointed Man of GOD, you persecute me for saying that Jesus is THE CHRIST? Yet you accept those who are ANTI-CHRIST the ones who make Jesus "God" are taking him out of his place they don't understand that being making Christ God is Anti-Christ.

I am Pro-Christ, God said he anointed him

Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Hebrews 1:8-10

Notice it says above thy fellows, if he was God already he would have already been above his fellows so that is the truth about Christ, but most don't know.

You call the ones who worship Jesus as "God" acceptable how many other Gods are acceptable to you, for me there is only ONE GOD, He has no partners, No God was formed before Him and None shall be formed after Him.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 19 2009,03:14)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2009,22:45) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,13:52) BD, you can do what you want with the Quran, in the appropriate place. This area is for the bible and those who believe it's message. Especially who Jesus is. You may have noticed that we even have atheists here. They cannot post here, but there is a place where interaction takes place. I do not agree with the Trinity, but even Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God. They have just added a further doctrine, that he is God too. I disagree with that, but that doesn't discount one as a believer. This place is for those who believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God who died for the sins of humanity and rose again to be seated at the right hand of God. I know that the Quaran does not agree with this. Personally speaking, if you had not quoted the Quran, then I might not have bothered about creating this discussion. I would have the same reservations if a Mormon came here quoting the Book of Mormon. Not because I am threatened by the Book of Mormon and not that I am threatened by the Quran either, but that both are not appropriate here. Neither is any discussion regarding the triple personage of God which is THE FIRST and GRATEST COMMANDMENT Jesus said there were two great commandments and yet you allow the first and most important to be trampled upon. Neither of these commandments that Jesus gaveare being violated by what I speak about but the first and most important one is violated when talking about the trinity. you are clearly in the wrong. BD Are you just hard headed or hard at hearing! Trinitarians believe the basic tenants of the faith which are… 1. Jesus is the Only Son of God 2. Jesus died for our sins by shedding his blood 3. Jesus was buried 4. Jesus rose from the dead three days later 5. The Bible is the inspired word of God You do not believe any of those things, but only push the Muslim religion over the scriptures and Christianity! You can do that if you like in other threads but t8 is saying that you can not do that in the believers threads that are discussing the Bible and Christianity! We are discussing the Bible and do not need or want to have the Koran plastering the pages! Why should this be a problem for you since threads are limited to particular subjects anyway? I suppose it could be that not many will care to discuss the Koran here on a Biblical sight! WJ

Is Jesus God? Do you worship Jesus as God?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You think you should have the right to sell your god and your false teachings among us?
Why?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2009,08:05)

Hi BD, You think you should have the right to sell your god and your false teachings among us? Why?

Wow! Isaiah was right!

You see but don't perceive and you hear but cannot discern.

MY God is THE GOD of JESUS in-fact THE GOD OF ALL FLESH

Is this your God or Not? Yes or No?

Your back is against the wall now, what will you say?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
No we do not listen to new improved gospels even if angels claim to bring them.[gal1]
Isaiah does not speak of the religions of the world.
He served the God of Israel.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2009,09:36)

Hi BD, No we do not listen to new improved gospels even if angels claim to bring them.[gal1] Isaiah does not speak of the religions of the world. He served the God of Israel.

Christianity is not Judaism.

Galatians 1 (King James Version)
23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.

May this also be the case with you, since you are so zealous.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
We are grafted into the olive tree of Israel.
You have removed yourself

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 19 2009,13:22)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2009,09:36) Hi BD, No we do not listen to new improved gospels even if angels claim to bring them.[gal1] Isaiah does not speak of the religions of the world. He served the God of Israel. Christianity is not Judaism. Galatians 1 (King James Version) 23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed. May this also be the case with you, since you are so zealous.

Hi BD,

The same God(Holy Spirit) delivered the "Ten Commandments" to both followers of Judaism as well as Christianity!

The Bible clearly states "Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement;
when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge,
(((and under falsehood have we hid ourselves))):
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone (Jesus, The Christ),
a tried stone, a precious corner stone , a sure foundation: he that believeth (on Jesus) shall not make haste (be forced to flee).
Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail (of "The latter Rain"=151)
shall sweep away the refuge of lies (false religious doctrines of men), and the waters shall overflow the hiding place (false religious books).
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand;
when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night:
and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report. (Isaiah 28:15-19)
Death is never the answer; yet that is what Sura 9 teaches.

When will you turn to the living GOD of Israel.
The "Holy Bible"=90 proves over and over that "GOD is Real"=90!
Yet you continually illustrate that you are blind to the truths therein; even when shown.

Ed (Joshua 22:34)

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
When did Jesus deliver the ten commandments to the gentiles?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2009,15:28)

Hi ED, When did Jesus deliver the ten commandments to the gentiles?

Hi Nick,

I don't understand your question?

Ed J

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2009,12:49)

Hi WJ, Only Son?

NH

That is what the word "Monogenes" means, is it not?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 18 2009,15:34)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 19 2009,03:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2009,22:45) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,13:52) BD, you can do what you want with the Quran, in the appropriate place. This area is for the bible and those who believe it's message. Especially who Jesus is. You may have noticed that we even have atheists here. They cannot post here, but there is a place where interaction takes place. I do not agree with the Trinity, but even Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God. They have just added a further doctrine, that he is God too. I disagree with that, but that doesn't discount one as a believer. This place is for those who believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of God who died for the sins of humanity and rose again to be seated at the right hand of God. I know that the Quaran does not agree with this. Personally speaking, if you had not quoted the Quran, then I might not have bothered about creating this discussion. I would have the same reservations if a Mormon came here quoting the Book of Mormon. Not because I am threatened by the Book of Mormon and not that I am threatened by the Quran either, but that both are not appropriate here. Neither is any discussion regarding the triple personage of God which is THE FIRST and GRATEST COMMANDMENT Jesus said there were two great commandments and yet you allow the first and most important to be trampled upon. Neither of these commandments that Jesus gaveare being violated by what I speak about but the first and most important one is violated when talking about the trinity. you are clearly in the wrong. BD Are you just hard headed or hard at hearing! Trinitarians believe the basic tenants of the faith which are… 1. Jesus is the Only Son of God 2. Jesus died for our sins by shedding his blood 3. Jesus was buried 4. Jesus rose from the dead three days later 5. The Bible is the inspired word of God You do not believe any of those things, but only push the Muslim religion over the scriptures and Christianity! You can do that if you like in other threads but t8 is saying that you can not do that in the believers threads that are discussing the Bible and Christianity! We are discussing the Bible and do not need or want to have the Koran plastering the pages! Why should this be a problem for you since threads are limited to particular subjects anyway? I suppose it could be that not many will care to discuss the Koran here on a Biblical sight! WJ Is Jesus God? Do you worship Jesus as God?

BD

Is your Father human?

WJ

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2009,13:30)

Hi BD, We are grafted into the olive tree of Israel. You have removed yourself

Paul says God has concluded you all in unbelief so that God would have mercy on all

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Then take advantage of the offer of salvation.
The door will close

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