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Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,08:47) Quote (glad tidings @ Nov. 15 2009,11:36) I believe that this forum should be divided up into Christian and Non-christian sections. Acts 4:12: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." [Jesus is the name; he is the Saviour, and no other man's name fits the description, role, designation, or purpose of The Messiah. PERIOD] IMO, when it comes to Biblical text, I believe we as Christians should be diligent to not allow others (in different religions) to put a question mark where a period belongs.
Con- I think your interpretation of Matthew 13:33 sounds interesting, but may be missing the point Jesus was trying to make in a much simpler way.
"Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened.
Here's what I get from the parable: Leaven is not always associated with evil in the scriptures, [and nor are women, as you mentioned previously] and I believe it does not carry this association here In Matthew 13. Here's why:
Jesus had spoken a string of parables during the time of this recorded parable (i.e., Sower, Tares, Mustard Seed, and then Leaven) each parable is intended to emphasize a simple, yet vitally important truth to be grasped about the Kingdom.
Leaven is a rising agent and it acts in mysterious ways in a blob of dough. When this agent is kneaded into a batch, its dynamic effects of rising the dough take place irreversibly and without notice of the human eye (it's gradual and it happens internally). And before too long, the whole blob of dough is effected.
The point in this illustration is to be applied to one thing, and that is, the manner in which growth in the Kingdom of God takes place. The kingdom is not going to grow by external forces (that is, armies, religious organizations or inquisitions, etc.), but will grow (mysteriously) from within via the power of and unquenchable agent, the holy spirit. Nobody is going to be able to stop the effects of this growth until the whole world is effected.
Matthew 24:16: "and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
This is closely associated with the previous parable he spoke about the mustard seed. In this parable emphasizes that even though the number of people who would inherit the kingdom would be very small (like a mustard seed), the future growth (progeny) arising from this nucleus of citizens would be way out of proportion to the size of its initial beginnings.
My personal belief is that these parables will take on their full illustration with the coming of the new age, when Christ returns to set up his kingdom on the earth, and the redeemed of his kingdom bear rule with him.
Con-
I exhort to consider that perhaps you interjected a humanistic interpretation to this parable, and added some information that the parable doesn't emphasize. Please think this through. I'd be interested to hear your reply.
Grace & peace,
glad tidings
Show me where leven is spoken of as righteous.Did you know these are all ONE parable?:
1. The lost sheep – Luke 15:3-7
2. The lost coin – Luke 15:8-10
3. The lost boy – Luke 15:11-32
4. The unjust steward – Luke 16:1-13
5. The rich man and Lazarus – Luke 16:19-31
That sounds interesting, how so?Con-
To the common Israelite, leaven was not thought of as evil in and of itself. They were allowed to eat it, just not during the "Feast of Unleavend Bread" during the Passover season. Apparently, Yahweh wanted them to remember the haste with which He had brought them out of Egypt; hence, they didn't have the time for this luxury. (see Deuteronomy 16:1-4; Exodus 12: 33, 34, 39 see also Leviticus 23:17, where leaven is actually included in a priestly wave offering to the Lord during The Feast of Weeks. see Also Leviticus 7: 13, Amos 4:5.)
Quote (glad tidings @ Nov. 15 2009,14:46) Con- To the common Israelite, leaven was not thought of as evil in and of itself. They were allowed to eat it, just not during the "Feast of Unleavend Bread" during the Passover season. Apparently, Yahweh wanted them to remember the haste with which He had brought them out of Egypt; hence, they didn't have the time for this luxury. (see Deuteronomy 16:1-4; Exodus 12: 33, 34, 39 see also Leviticus 23:17, where leaven is actually included in a priestly wave offering to the Lord during The Feast of Weeks. see Also Leviticus 7: 13, Amos 4:5.)
Show me where leven is spoken of as righteous.Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2009,13:59) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,08:47) Quote (glad tidings @ Nov. 15 2009,11:36) I believe that this forum should be divided up into Christian and Non-christian sections. Acts 4:12: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." [Jesus is the name; he is the Saviour, and no other man's name fits the description, role, designation, or purpose of The Messiah. PERIOD] IMO, when it comes to Biblical text, I believe we as Christians should be diligent to not allow others (in different religions) to put a question mark where a period belongs.
Con- I think your interpretation of Matthew 13:33 sounds interesting, but may be missing the point Jesus was trying to make in a much simpler way.
"Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened.
Here's what I get from the parable: Leaven is not always associated with evil in the scriptures, [and nor are women, as you mentioned previously] and I believe it does not carry this association here In Matthew 13. Here's why:
Jesus had spoken a string of parables during the time of this recorded parable (i.e., Sower, Tares, Mustard Seed, and then Leaven) each parable is intended to emphasize a simple, yet vitally important truth to be grasped about the Kingdom.
Leaven is a rising agent and it acts in mysterious ways in a blob of dough. When this agent is kneaded into a batch, its dynamic effects of rising the dough take place irreversibly and without notice of the human eye (it's gradual and it happens internally). And before too long, the whole blob of dough is effected.
The point in this illustration is to be applied to one thing, and that is, the manner in which growth in the Kingdom of God takes place. The kingdom is not going to grow by external forces (that is, armies, religious organizations or inquisitions, etc.), but will grow (mysteriously) from within via the power of and unquenchable agent, the holy spirit. Nobody is going to be able to stop the effects of this growth until the whole world is effected.
Matthew 24:16: "and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
This is closely associated with the previous parable he spoke about the mustard seed. In this parable emphasizes that even though the number of people who would inherit the kingdom would be very small (like a mustard seed), the future growth (progeny) arising from this nucleus of citizens would be way out of proportion to the size of its initial beginnings.
My personal belief is that these parables will take on their full illustration with the coming of the new age, when Christ returns to set up his kingdom on the earth, and the redeemed of his kingdom bear rule with him.
Con-
I exhort to consider that perhaps you interjected a humanistic interpretation to this parable, and added some information that the parable doesn't emphasize. Please think this through. I'd be interested to hear your reply.
Grace & peace,
glad tidings
Show me where leven is spoken of as righteous.Did you know these are all ONE parable?:
1. The lost sheep – Luke 15:3-7
2. The lost coin – Luke 15:8-10
3. The lost boy – Luke 15:11-32
4. The unjust steward – Luke 16:1-13
5. The rich man and Lazarus – Luke 16:19-31
That sounds interesting, how so?
Picture a five faceted diamond, one diamond or five?Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2009,13:59) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,08:47) Quote (glad tidings @ Nov. 15 2009,11:36) I believe that this forum should be divided up into Christian and Non-christian sections. Acts 4:12: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." [Jesus is the name; he is the Saviour, and no other man's name fits the description, role, designation, or purpose of The Messiah. PERIOD] IMO, when it comes to Biblical text, I believe we as Christians should be diligent to not allow others (in different religions) to put a question mark where a period belongs.
Con- I think your interpretation of Matthew 13:33 sounds interesting, but may be missing the point Jesus was trying to make in a much simpler way.
"Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened.
Here's what I get from the parable: Leaven is not always associated with evil in the scriptures, [and nor are women, as you mentioned previously] and I believe it does not carry this association here In Matthew 13. Here's why:
Jesus had spoken a string of parables during the time of this recorded parable (i.e., Sower, Tares, Mustard Seed, and then Leaven) each parable is intended to emphasize a simple, yet vitally important truth to be grasped about the Kingdom.
Leaven is a rising agent and it acts in mysterious ways in a blob of dough. When this agent is kneaded into a batch, its dynamic effects of rising the dough take place irreversibly and without notice of the human eye (it's gradual and it happens internally). And before too long, the whole blob of dough is effected.
The point in this illustration is to be applied to one thing, and that is, the manner in which growth in the Kingdom of God takes place. The kingdom is not going to grow by external forces (that is, armies, religious organizations or inquisitions, etc.), but will grow (mysteriously) from within via the power of and unquenchable agent, the holy spirit. Nobody is going to be able to stop the effects of this growth until the whole world is effected.
Matthew 24:16: "and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
This is closely associated with the previous parable he spoke about the mustard seed. In this parable emphasizes that even though the number of people who would inherit the kingdom would be very small (like a mustard seed), the future growth (progeny) arising from this nucleus of citizens would be way out of proportion to the size of its initial beginnings.
My personal belief is that these parables will take on their full illustration with the coming of the new age, when Christ returns to set up his kingdom on the earth, and the redeemed of his kingdom bear rule with him.
Con-
I exhort to consider that perhaps you interjected a humanistic interpretation to this parable, and added some information that the parable doesn't emphasize. Please think this through. I'd be interested to hear your reply.
Grace & peace,
glad tidings
Show me where leven is spoken of as righteous.Did you know these are all ONE parable?:
1. The lost sheep – Luke 15:3-7
2. The lost coin – Luke 15:8-10
3. The lost boy – Luke 15:11-32
4. The unjust steward – Luke 16:1-13
5. The rich man and Lazarus – Luke 16:19-31
That sounds interesting, how so?
Lost Sheep Matt 18:12-14; Lk 15:3-7
'Elohim's primary concern is for those who strayLost Coin Lk 15:8-10
'Elohim rejoices over the repentance of one sinnerLost Son Lk 15:11-32
All who repent are heirs of 'Elohim's forgiving grace without distinction.The unjust steward – Luke 16:1-13
Believers should develop mastery over material things in service to 'Elohim.The rich man and Lazarus – Luke 16:19-31
The Word of 'Elohim contains sufficient information to persuade people into the kingdom apart from their personal experience of miracles.Nominalism – False Believers
The Weeds Matt 13:24-30; 36-43
Until the judgment day, it may be difficult to distinguish between real and nominal Christians within the kingdom of God.The Mustard Seed Matt 13:31,32; Mk 4:30-32; Lk 13:18,19
Though the kingdom begins small, it will be large at the end.
And non-Christians will nest in its branches.The Leaven Matt 13:33; Lk 13:20,21
Nominalism grows quickly in the KingdomThe Dragnet Matt 13:47-50
Though many enter into Christendom, they will be separated on Judgment day.
Quote (glad tidings @ Nov. 15 2009,14:46) Con- To the common Israelite, leaven was not thought of as evil in and of itself. They were allowed to eat it, just not during the "Feast of Unleavend Bread" during the Passover season. Apparently, Yahweh wanted them to remember the haste with which He had brought them out of Egypt; hence, they didn't have the time for this luxury. (see Deuteronomy 16:1-4; Exodus 12: 33, 34, 39 see also Leviticus 23:17, where leaven is actually included in a priestly wave offering to the Lord during The Feast of Weeks. see Also Leviticus 7: 13, Amos 4:5.)
Why do people add yeast to dough, what effect does it have?
Is more bread created?
What does the yeast represent?
The Dough?
The Woman?
How could you purge out the yeast?
What is the application?This is yet another parable dealing with nominalism in the visible Church, being composed of both false and true believers.
"Yeast" or "Leaven" almost always has a negative connotation in the Bible.
Yeshua said, "Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees" Luke 12:1.
And Paul writes:
"Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast as you really are. For the Messiah, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth." 1Cor 5:6-8
And he speaks similarly in the book of Galatians warning of the doctrine of the cult of the circumcision saying, "A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough." Gal 5:9
So from these passages we can clearly see the apostle's understanding of Yeshua' parable.
There are those who think and even preach that Yeshua was using a positive connotation.
They think that Jesus was saying that He is the yeast that makes the dough rise.
But they are mistaken.
The woman represents the devil.
False teachings and false brethren (Gal 2:4) make for a bloated church full of hot air, a church with a yeast infection.
There once was some dough without any leaven
Just like the bread that came down from heaven
But then a woman added yeast to the dough
False teachings and malice made it grow
Being bloated with pride and full of hot air
So when you see such yeast, beware
For sincerity and truth is the bread without yeast
And so with such bread let us keep the feastCon-
Do you have a concordance? May I exhort you to take some more time, look up those verses and comments I mentioned in previous posts, and (prayerfully) consider the conclusion you've drawn in the last post.
Peace be with you,
Patrick
Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,07:40) Notice it is the KINGDOM of GOD Is Christ "God"?
Hi BD,Personally I'm glad you came along, you help me to expose "The Truth".
The Bible is "The Truth"!
[The truth=120] of the [Kingdom of GOD=120].
There were 120 gathered together on the Day of Pentecost in the upper room when they
received the Holy Spirit. (Acts 1:15) This new [“little flock” [of] GOD=151] spoke
[the truth=120] of the [Kingdom of GOD=120] to all the people, and the word of GOD
was heard by the “great crowd” (approx. 5,000) in their own languages.There is great fractal consistency how we hear the word of God in our language, English
(Based on an average of 120 translators); the same amount as the 120 Christians
followers preaching [the truth=120] of the [Kingdom of GOD=120] on the Day of Pentecost.
The AKJV translation of the Bible was transcribed using the Greek Septuagint Bible
as well as the Hebrew Scriptures called the Masoretic Texts. Septuagint in Greek means seventy,
as there were seventy translators who worked on the first Greek Bible. In addition,
there were commonly fifty King James translators working on the AKJV Bible.
Thus the total average amount of translators (70+50=120) bringing the good news
around the world matches 120 gathered together in the upper room on the day of Pentecost.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,10:37) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2009,13:59) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,08:47) Quote (glad tidings @ Nov. 15 2009,11:36) I believe that this forum should be divided up into Christian and Non-christian sections. Acts 4:12: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." [Jesus is the name; he is the Saviour, and no other man's name fits the description, role, designation, or purpose of The Messiah. PERIOD] IMO, when it comes to Biblical text, I believe we as Christians should be diligent to not allow others (in different religions) to put a question mark where a period belongs.
Con- I think your interpretation of Matthew 13:33 sounds interesting, but may be missing the point Jesus was trying to make in a much simpler way.
"Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened.
Here's what I get from the parable: Leaven is not always associated with evil in the scriptures, [and nor are women, as you mentioned previously] and I believe it does not carry this association here In Matthew 13. Here's why:
Jesus had spoken a string of parables during the time of this recorded parable (i.e., Sower, Tares, Mustard Seed, and then Leaven) each parable is intended to emphasize a simple, yet vitally important truth to be grasped about the Kingdom.
Leaven is a rising agent and it acts in mysterious ways in a blob of dough. When this agent is kneaded into a batch, its dynamic effects of rising the dough take place irreversibly and without notice of the human eye (it's gradual and it happens internally). And before too long, the whole blob of dough is effected.
The point in this illustration is to be applied to one thing, and that is, the manner in which growth in the Kingdom of God takes place. The kingdom is not going to grow by external forces (that is, armies, religious organizations or inquisitions, etc.), but will grow (mysteriously) from within via the power of and unquenchable agent, the holy spirit. Nobody is going to be able to stop the effects of this growth until the whole world is effected.
Matthew 24:16: "and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
This is closely associated with the previous parable he spoke about the mustard seed. In this parable emphasizes that even though the number of people who would inherit the kingdom would be very small (like a mustard seed), the future growth (progeny) arising from this nucleus of citizens would be way out of proportion to the size of its initial beginnings.
My personal belief is that these parables will take on their full illustration with the coming of the new age, when Christ returns to set up his kingdom on the earth, and the redeemed of his kingdom bear rule with him.
Con-
I exhort to consider that perhaps you interjected a humanistic interpretation to this parable, and added some information that the parable doesn't emphasize. Please think this through. I'd be interested to hear your reply.
Grace & peace,
glad tidings
Show me where leven is spoken of as righteous.Did you know these are all ONE parable?:
1. The lost sheep – Luke 15:3-7
2. The lost coin – Luke 15:8-10
3. The lost boy – Luke 15:11-32
4. The unjust steward – Luke 16:1-13
5. The rich man and Lazarus – Luke 16:19-31
That sounds interesting, how so?
Lost Sheep Matt 18:12-14; Lk 15:3-7
'Elohim's primary concern is for those who strayLost Coin Lk 15:8-10
'Elohim rejoices over the repentance of one sinnerLost Son Lk 15:11-32
All who repent are heirs of 'Elohim's forgiving grace without distinction.The unjust steward – Luke 16:1-13
Believers should develop mastery over material things in service to 'Elohim.The rich man and Lazarus – Luke 16:19-31
The Word of 'Elohim contains sufficient information to persuade people into the kingdom apart from their personal experience of miracles.
I perceive what your saying as something very beautifulLuke 16 (King James Version)
30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
but had he done what you have said
11If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
and how did this man fail? by failing here
Luke 16
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.Luke 15
13And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.16And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
17And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
Luke 16
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.18I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him
Luke 15
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.10Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
Luke 15
22But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:23And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
Luke 16
26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2009,12:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,07:40) Notice it is the KINGDOM of GOD Is Christ "God"?
Hi BD,Personally I'm glad you came along, you help me to expose "The Truth".
The Bible is "The Truth"!
[The truth=120] of the [Kingdom of GOD=120].
There were 120 gathered together on the Day of Pentecost in the upper room when they
received the Holy Spirit. (Acts 1:15) This new [“little flock” [of] GOD=151] spoke
[the truth=120] of the [Kingdom of GOD=120] to all the people, and the word of GOD
was heard by the “great crowd” (approx. 5,000) in their own languages.There is great fractal consistency how we hear the word of God in our language, English
(Based on an average of 120 translators); the same amount as the 120 Christians
followers preaching [the truth=120] of the [Kingdom of GOD=120] on the Day of Pentecost.
The AKJV translation of the Bible was transcribed using the Greek Septuagint Bible
as well as the Hebrew Scriptures called the Masoretic Texts. Septuagint in Greek means seventy,
as there were seventy translators who worked on the first Greek Bible. In addition,
there were commonly fifty King James translators working on the AKJV Bible.
Thus the total average amount of translators (70+50=120) bringing the good news
around the world matches 120 gathered together in the upper room on the day of Pentecost.
The truth is already clear in the Holy Bible and The Glorious Quran so in the words of Jesus:And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?
Luke 12:13-15If you are a witness of God like you say I must put forth the effort to test what you believe if it is valid I will be more than glad to support your calling and if it is invalid I will be more than willing to assist you in discovering the right knowledge.
You seem at the current time to lack giving information proper context. You say words like "commonly" and "average" those are weasel words.
FYI, As stated in the Tractate Megillah of the Babylonian Talmud (pages 9a-9b), and later narrated by Philo of Alexandria, 72 Jewish translators were used to complete the translation while kept in separate chambers. They all produced identical versions of the text in seventy-two days. This story underlines the fact that Jews in antiquity wished to present the translation as authoritative in order to prevent criticism by non-Jews based on divergent translations
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1035&letter=B#3077
So there were 72 translators, why didn't you do your research first? You think that people can't do research to check your information?
and you still have not explained to me why ALLAH=34 as does ONE=34 ONE ALLAH=68 LAH(God) ALONE=68
How he made Men=34 write with Ink=34
Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,14:04) How he made Men=34 write with Ink=34
Rev.10:7: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2009,14:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,14:04) How he made Men=34 write with Ink=34
Rev.10:7: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Exactly it is Allah=34 who was the One=34 who taught Men=34 to write with Ink=34 that he may Tie=34 Men=34 to Yah=34Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,14:37) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2009,14:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,14:04) How he made Men=34 write with Ink=34
Rev.10:7: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Exactly he may Tie=34 Men=34 to Yah=34
Rev.21:2-3: "and I John was the "Holy City"=117, the new Jeruaslem, comming down from God out of Heaven,
prepared as abride adorned for her husband. Add I heard a great vioce out of heaven saying, Behold the tabernachle of God
[is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, "And God himself"=117 shall be with them, [and] be] their God.Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2009,15:06) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,14:37) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2009,14:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,14:04) How he made Men=34 write with Ink=34
Rev.10:7: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Exactly he may Tie=34 Men=34 to Yah=34
Rev.21:2-3: "and I John was the "Holy City"=117, the new Jeruaslem, comming down from God out of Heaven,
prepared as abride adorned for her husband. Add I heard a great vioce out of heaven saying, Behold the tabernachle of God
[is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, "And God himself"=117 shall be with them, [and] be] their God.
Sounds good to me.After reading posts promoting the Qur'an or Koran, I am more convinced that this category of forums should be for believers only. As the topics here are for those who believe that Jesus is the messiah and son of the living God. That he died and rose again and that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
This area is not the place for other religions or followers of other men to tout their message. There are other places outside this area for that.
I am open to setting up a forum for non-believers challenging believers in such things, but just not here because this category has a special mission to seek out what is written in scripture.
Every time a non-believer enters this area, they tend to steer conversations away from learning more about scripture and toward whatever it is that the non-believer is preaching. This happens almost always and each time it reminds me that we need to preserve this area for believers only.
To bodhitharta.
I deleted your poll.
No one voted after over 30 views.
I think the questions were not clear for just a yes no answer. I was going to mention it on that topic, but you had it as a poll only.
What I wanted to say was that it is up to YHWH whose names are written in the Book of Life. It is not up to us to make such a judgement. I know that YHWH is merciful, but we cannot speak on his behalf and make this judgement for you.
The only guarantee we can make about who will be saved are those that God's spirit indwells. For his spirit can only dwell where there is no sin and such people have had their sins covered.
YHWH will save who he chooses to save outside of that. It is his choice.
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