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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,10:30) Hi not3,
There is ever the mercy of God.
But the door is closed to life in Jesus as the first resurrection is past.
Is there any other life but life in Jesus? Will not those who remain have a chance at “life”? Will there life be in someone else other than Jesus?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,10:34) Hi not3,
The Spirit of Life is poured out beyond just being through Jesus.
Jl2
But I thought Jesus is the ONLY way, the ONLY life? I guess that changes for this teaching?Jesus is no longer the ONLY WAY to the Father? There is another way…..through the Spirit of God? Hmmm
Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 14 2008,10:59) Meerkat, I was not really “quoting” scripture when I said that. Irene
ohhhh ….. okQuote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 14 2008,10:47) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,10:34) Hi not3,
The Spirit of Life is poured out beyond just being through Jesus.
Jl2
But I thought Jesus is the ONLY way, the ONLY life? I guess that changes for this teaching?Jesus is no longer the ONLY WAY to the Father? There is another way…..through the Spirit of God? Hmmm
Hi not3,
He is the only way.
Life is in him.But nothing takes away the sovereignty of God.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,03:15) Jesus returns like a thief in the night and closes the door to salvation in him.
But now you say God can override this ruling?Hi not3,
What God has said will happen will.
But other matters also occur.Some bad folk are to be found seated at the wedding feast who never knew Jesus.
Matthew 22:10
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.Nick
There was one person not dressed in a wedding rope; it is nothing more then a parable, the white linen represents Christs righteousness, the only way you can come to God.
Mat. 22:10 is showing what really happened, the nation Israel, the invited guests, rejected the invitation; so God poured out his Holy Spirit on the Gentiles too, the entire world.Georg
Hi Jodi,
In another thread you wrote
“One thing that I also have been meaning to ask you dear brother is your understanding on the time frame of which God has allowed for people to be saved? We have talked about this before, and my understanding is that most won't come to accept God until after the second resurrection. Corrrect me if I am wrong but it seems as if you believe that the bible and those teaching it, are the only measures of which God gave for a person to become saved. “Where did this odd idea come from as scripture seems to rather say after death the Judgement?
Hi ,
Rev19
11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
This is the Body of Christ rejoined to the glorious head, Lord Jesus.
No more opportunity to be joined with him as Christ is complete.Hi SEEKING,
You said in another thread“Nick,
FYI they do not view it as second chance, but rather
as a chance one never had before. Their belief, as I understand it, is that many have not heard and understood the gospel. They will be given, COG believes, a first
chance.I do not share their understanding I only submit it to you for
understanding as to why they do not think it “second chance theology.” They would deny that totally.Blessings,
Seeking “
Quite so.
But we do not add to the revelation of God.
God never needs the help of men to provide sound doctrine.Such sorts of ideas led catholics to baptise infants without knowledge or faith turning what is vital into a magic ritual formula that does nobody any good.
Hi S,
If we take any other foundation than what is written then anything can happen.
The foundation for this doctrine is man's idea of the fairness of God.We decide God must be fair by our standards so we devise another way for men to be saved.
Uselessness.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2009,13:06) “Nick, FYI
I do not share their understanding I only submit it to you for
understanding as to why they do not think it “second chance theology.” They would deny that totally.Quite so.
But we do not add to the revelation of God.
God never needs the help of men to provide sound doctrine.
Nick,I sent something for your information. Did I imply or did that imply that we should add to the revelation of God? I don't follow your need to clarify. I don't think anyone would have thought I was implying that by what I wrote.
Seeking
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 20 2009,13:34) Hi Jodi,
In another thread you wrote
“One thing that I also have been meaning to ask you dear brother is your understanding on the time frame of which God has allowed for people to be saved? We have talked about this before, and my understanding is that most won't come to accept God until after the second resurrection. Corrrect me if I am wrong but it seems as if you believe that the bible and those teaching it, are the only measures of which God gave for a person to become saved. “Where did this odd idea come from as scripture seems to rather say after death the Judgement?
NickThat is exactly the point, who would have a chance to be saved by their works before their first death?
Jesus will judge/teach the world, that is when the books are written.Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.Georg
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