Saul of Tarsus

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  • #177368
    NickHassan
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    Hi CO,
    No.
    Do your own footslogging.

    #177443
    chosenone
    Participant

    NH.
    Gracefully backing out? Can't find it even in your own version of scripture?

    #177444
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Why throw stones when you are way behind in the basics?
    The gospel awaits your response

    #177446
    chosenone
    Participant

    NH.
    The gospel you rely on is not even in scripture, so how can you respond? “The eternal gospel for all” is built on sand, seek what is built on a solid foundation. Thrust scripture, not yourself!

    #177484
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Did you not hear the call to repentance and rebirth?
    Listen to him.

    #177511
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (chosenone @ Feb. 12 2010,16:51)
    NH
      You're right, my Concordant version of scripture does not have “the one eternal gospel for all”, as does yours.  Would you be kind enough to give us the version you use, the one that has “the one eternal gospel for all” in it, so we can all benefit?


    Hi ChosenOne,

    The AKJV Bible has One…

    Rev.14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach
                  unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #177562
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,14:40)

    Quote (chosenone @ Feb. 12 2010,16:51)
    NH
      You're right, my Concordant version of scripture does not have “the one eternal gospel for all”, as does yours.  Would you be kind enough to give us the version you use, the one that has “the one eternal gospel for all” in it, so we can all benefit?


    Hi ChosenOne,

    The AKJV Bible has One…

    Rev.14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach
                  unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed J.
    Thanks for your input. In Rev.14:6 the greek word 'aion' is in some versions, misinterpeted as 'everlasting' or 'eternal'. The correct translation in English is “eon”, meaning a length of time, similar to 'age'. It never means 'everlasting' or 'eternal'.
    The following is an explanation by the Concordant Publishing Concern of this scripture.

    6 The eonian evangel is not for this day. It is for the hours of judgment. In the midst of wrath He remembers mercy. But it does not call upon them to believe, as the gospel does today, for that is adapted to a time of undiluted grace (Ro.4:16). It is not even repent, for that is the door into the kingdom before the hour of judgment has struck (Ac.2:38). It is fear—fear for God in His most elemental character as the Creator. It is a demand that no one be worshiped but the One Who created the universe. This is His answer to the demands of the false prophet that all worship the wild beast and the dragon (cf.Ac.17:24-31).

    Appreciate your opinion, thanks.

    Blessings, Jerry.

    #177564
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    So the concordant teachers are your masters?

    #177566
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 13 2010,10:56)
    Hi CO,
    Did you not hear the call to repentance and rebirth?
    Listen to him.


    NH.
    No Nick, I didn't. That was for 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel'. I have been “justified” by my Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus. His death and resurrection has “conciliated me to God, He (God) sees our sin no more”. (2Cor.5:18-19)

    You must “correctly cut the word of truth”.

    Blessings.

    #177567
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 13 2010,17:28)
    Hi CO,
    So the concordant teachers are your masters?


    NH.
    The 'Holy Spirit” dwelling in me, “by the grace of God”, is my teacher. I can do nothing by myself.

    #177570
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (chosenone @ Feb. 13 2010,17:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,14:40)

    Quote (chosenone @ Feb. 12 2010,16:51)
    NH
      You're right, my Concordant version of scripture does not have “the one eternal gospel for all”, as does yours.  Would you be kind enough to give us the version you use, the one that has “the one eternal gospel for all” in it, so we can all benefit?


    Hi ChosenOne,

    The AKJV Bible has One…

    Rev.14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach
                  unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed J.
      Thanks for your input.  In Rev.14:6 the greek word 'aion' is in some versions, misinterpeted as 'everlasting' or 'eternal'.  The correct translation in English is “eon”,  meaning a length of time, similar to 'age'.  It never means 'everlasting' or 'eternal'.
      The following is an explanation by the Concordant Publishing Concern of this scripture.

    6 The eonian evangel is not for this day. It is for the hours of judgment. In the midst of wrath He remembers mercy. But it does not call upon them to believe, as the gospel does today, for that is adapted to a time of undiluted grace (Ro.4:16). It is not even repent, for that is the door into the kingdom before the hour of judgment has struck (Ac.2:38). It is fear—fear for God in His most elemental character as the Creator. It is a demand that no one be worshiped but the One Who created the universe. This is His answer to the demands of the false prophet that all worship the wild beast and the dragon (cf.Ac.17:24-31).

    Appreciate your opinion, thanks.

    Blessings,  Jerry.


    HI ChosenOne,

    Thanks for the Concordant version's  translators 'opinion',
    but since it is a Greek word, I will go with the Greek definition of the word; OK?
    Call me “Picky” if you like, but my view of God is based
    solely on provable FACTS; based on 40 years of study.
    1 Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    αιωνιος ahee-o-nee-os: eternal, for ever, everlasting (used for both past and future tenses); world without end.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
    יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #177696
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,18:07)
    1 Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.


    Ed J.
    Can't argue with that.

    God Bless, Jerry.

    #185003
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (anglhart @ Feb. 10 2010,06:35)
    Hi karmarie, and thanks for commenting. I would agree with you and side with Yeshua where there are contradictions. I'm one of those people who feel that the ideologies of Paul do differ from those of Yeshua on more than a few topics and I feel that differences are more pronounced than the KJV might have you think.  I think your comment …..
    “But then on saying that id be considered a heretic”
    sums up a very disappointing attitude among many Christians.  An attitude that shows many Christians are not that far removed from the arrogance and indeed, the ignorance, of those zealots of many other religions.  A more or less recent example would be the attitude that many Muslims displayed after Christoph Luxemberg released his book on the possible Aramaic roots of the Koran.  In the book Christoph maintains that many of the Koran’s notoriously nebulous and confusing sayings can be better understood if we consider that they may have been translated from an Aramaic source.  Through this Christoph implies further that the Koran may have been an attempt by early Syro-Christians to convert the Arabs.  As you might expect, this didn’t sit well with the Arabs who maintain the Koran was and has always been a document of Arabic source.   This is only one example but it clearly demonstrates how blind faith can blind people to the truth and hinder or even preclude honest attempts to find it.


    Hi Anglhrt, your probably not around any more but just incase you do occasionally visit,

    Iv done alot of reading on Paul, good and bad and one thing im sure of, He wasnt a false apostle as many say.
    It was through Him that the Gospel was taken throughout the whole world!

    “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”(John 3;16)

    “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”(Matthew 24;14)

    False Apostle? I dont think so

    #298442
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    What a servant.
    Blessed utterly with deep wisdom

    #298451
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Paul never met Jesus before his master's death.
    He only knew the Spirit of Christ.
    Now the Lord is the Spirit.

    #298452
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    So when he speaks of Christ he speaks of the Spirit.

    #380783
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    One man here claims to see more clearly than Paul.
    Believable?

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