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Terricca. …I REALIZE THAT, BUT WHAT I AM ADDRESSING HERE IS THE SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES WRITTEN IN 2Ths 2, by PAUL. PAUL SAID THIS IS A LIE, And TAUGHT THAT IT COMES BY THE WORKING OF SATAN HIMSELF. A “lie” That Jesus himself will destory at his return. So please tell what is that “LIE”, that God will send a strong deluding spirit into then that love not the truth, in order for them to believe that LIE. TELL US WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT “SPECIFIC” LIE IS?
Is it not Jesus who is the only one who “NOW” sits in the temple of God and is being DESPLAYED AND WORSHIPED as a God, by nearly all Christendom. You also preach AND BELIEVE that “LIE” ABOUT JESUS, specifically mentioned there by the apostles PAUL. A “LIE” THAT CHANGES THE “IMAGE” of JESUS INTO, A MAN OF SIN.
IF God has deluded you ,then you would cut out your tongue for that lie, and even more you would even kill for it, as many, many, many, who love not the truth have done, over the last 1700 hundred years have. If you truly want to know where you stand then come to see what PAUL WAS WRITING ABOUT THERE, IT WILL TELL YOU WHERE YOU ACTUALLY STAND, IN THE TRUTH OR NOT. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Hi @ all!
I think we all can agree that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God! (Matthew 16:16)
Danny
Hi DD,
Jesus Christ, now the Word.
The Word that was in the beginning with the Father, was made flesh.
Jesus did not come in the flesh, he was flesh.
hi Gene
2Th 2:1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers,
2Th 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.
2Th 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
2Th 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
2Th 2:5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
2Th 2:7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
2Th 2:10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
2Th 2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
2Th 2:12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.this is the apostasy and those that took over ,the truth and change it and delude it into sin ,to me it start with Constantine 1
still going on and man are still believing in the lie
Danny
Who has come in the flesh?
A: Jesus
B: Jesus Christ
Please, answer.
___________________________________________________a; Jesus
b; Jesus the Christ
C; Jesus “the WORD” and the Christ
c would be the answer
Hi Nick and Terraricca,
Ok, then how do we understand Acts 2:36?
Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!“
blessings!
Danny
Hi DD,
The man Jesus of Nazareth was made Lord and Christ.
He is the anointed one of God. Found sinless by obedience to the Law he was filled with the Holy Spirit at the Jordan, being made Christ, and appointed over all mankind as leader and judge.
He is lord of all acts 10.36
Now the Lord is the Spirit 2cor 3.17′
Terrarica,
Kerwin
and you think that is the right version ?
for you must have research for it I guess , and what does the words of translators says like word for word did you search it ? or just play games
Yes, the gift I seem to be given by the Spirit is knowledge as well as the ability to acquire it.
The multiple means of “was” or it corresponding Koine Greek words are equivalent as for when it can be translated as “was”.
I am sure claiming the word of God has the qualities of God, but is not God is a true saying and that the words “The word God” can mean that.
I also the word of God was with God in the beginning because Genesis teach God spoke in the beginning.
If I said that Scripture teaches us God was Love, God is Love, and God will be love you understand that I am saying he has continuously had the qualities of Love.
I also know that you are confusing the Jewish original Adam tenet with an actual creature instead of the concept illustrated as a person it is.
Danny
Hi Nick and Terraricca,
Ok, then how do we understand Acts 2:36?
Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!“
blessings!
Danny
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Lk 1:32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,
Lk 1:33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.”Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man
Lk 24:50 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany, he lifted up his hands and blessed them.
Lk 24:51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven.JESUS Could NOT GO TO HEAVEN UNLESS HE CAME FROM IT .and that is exactly what he said and what his apostles were teaching sins the beginning and what has been written down
end of story ,for whoever ;1Jn 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
1Jn 2:21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.why do they deny the son and the father ? because they deny the son for he said he came from above and they deny the father because they deny that the son was sent by the father just has the son told everyone ,so then make the son and the father liars ,
and also ;Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.it says :”NO MAN” can save another it has to be someone that came from above to do it has a man but not a man born according to the will of man ,
Nick
Yes the Word was made flesh.
Jesus of Nazareth is now one with the Word.
____________________________________________you still deny the son and the father not good to be a Antichrist
Terrarica,
I am sorry I misunderstood what were responding to.
Yes, I do seek to add to my understanding by research. The Catholic Church stands between the time of Scripture and my time and many things that were common knowledge have been lost or corrupted from that time to now. Perhaps, being heretics the Catholic Church is responsible for most of that.
If you look at my whole post to Andrew then I admit it may be correct.
Terrarica,
All human beings come in the flesh since they souls clothed in flesh. When you deny Jesus is a human being then you believe what is against Christ. Scripture tells us Jesus is a human being even as mediates between God and us.
Hi t,
Yes the Word proceeded forth and came from God and spoke through Jesus.
Did you think it was Jesus speaking about himself?
Andrew,
Hi NH,
Who has come in the flesh?
A: Jesus
B: Jesus Christ
Please, answer.
C. Paul, and every other human being including Jesus. I doubt they wanted to be found naked any more than Paul, 2 Corinthians 5:3. 🙂
Nick/kerwin
what scripture did you not understand in those i have shown you ? can you point one out so that we see what in scriptures you don’t believe for your opinions stand for your lack of position into the truth of God not cold not hot just luck warm ,not good
kerwin
Terrarica,
I am sorry I misunderstood what were responding to.
Yes, I do seek to add to my understanding by research. The Catholic Church stands between the time of Scripture and my time and many things that were common knowledge have been lost or corrupted from that time to now. Perhaps, being heretics the Catholic Church is responsible for most of that.
If you look at my whole post to Andrew then I admit it may be correct.
__________________________________________________________________________but you forgot to understand that it is the Jews that started to kill the truth
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