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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 01 2010,01:44) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 01 2010,01:25) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 01 2010,01:00) EDJ……….If you think Jesus will not return as a SON of MAN you are in great error EDJ> IMO peace and love………………..gene
Hi Gene,At least you admit this thought of yours is only your opinion.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ………..I have supplied you with Scripture , “WHEN THE SON OF man RETURNS WILL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH“. that is not my opinion now is it. And what about this , I saw the Lord descending on mount Paron with ten Thousands of His saints to execute Judgment ON THE EARTH. To convience all the ungodly of their ungodly deed which they have ungodly committed. Your false Pentecost teachings of his return is what is an opinion if you ask me. Jesus will certainty return and as Paul said He will destory the False teaching of Him being a GOD which Creates the image of the Man of Sin. And He will do it with the Breath of His own Mouth which are his Words he will speak at his return. If you think Jesus has already returned , by supposing when the Spirit said it would not leave us as Orphans but would come to us and abide with us for ever as being Jesus Himself you are greatly mistaken.I love it when you people say “O” that is yours Opinion as if yours is not an opinion , but the absolute word of GOD. So in your mind everyone else is an opinion except you and your number system RIGHT!
Hi Gene,Seems you don't quite know how to quote Scripture correctly… (Rev.22:18)
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless
when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?Luke 21:34-36 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with
surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye
therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things
that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 01 2010,01:44) EDJ………..And what about this , I saw the Lord descending on mount Paron with ten Thousands of His saints to execute Judgment ON THE EARTH. To convience all the ungodly of their ungodly deed which they have ungodly committed. Your false Pentecost teachings of his return is what is an opinion if you ask me.
Hi Gene,At least you admit that it is merely your opinion!
Perhaps you need to study a bit more?Here is what Enoch said…
The Former House
14:9 And they lifted me up into heaven, and I went till I approached near a wall
which was built of crystals and a tongue of fire surrounded it; and it began to
cause me to fear. 10. And I went into the tongue of fire and approached near
to a large house, which was built of crystals, and the walls of this house were
like a floor inlaid with crystals, and the groundwork was of crystals. 11. The ceiling
was like the course of the stars and of the lightning, and Cherubim of fire were
between them, and their heaven was water. 12. A flaming fire surrounded the walls,
and its doors burned with fire. 13. And I went into this house, and it was hot like fire
and cold like ice, and there were nothing pleasant and no life in it: fear covered me,
and trembling seized me. 14. And as I was shaking and trembling, I fell upon my face and saw in a vision.The Latter House
15. And behold there was a second house, larger than the other,
and whose doors stood open before me, and it was built with a tongue of fire.
16. And in all things it excelled in grandeur and magnificence and size, so that
I cannot describe to you its magnificence and its size. 17. Its floor was fire,
and above it was lightning and the course of the stars, and its ceiling was also
a flaming fire. 18. And I looked and saw therein a high throne; its appearance
was like the hoar-frost, and its circuit like a shining sun and voices of the Cherubim.
19. And from under the great throne came streams of flaming fire, and it was impossible
to look at it. 20. And he who is Great in Majesty sat thereon; His garment shone more brilliantly
than the sun, and was whiter than any hail. 21. None of the angels were able to enter, nor any flesh
to look upon the form of the face of the Majestic and Honored One. 22. Fire of flaming fire was round Him,
and a great fire stood before Him, and none of those were around him could approach Him; ten thousand
times ten thousand were before Him; but He required not any holy counsel. 23. And the holy ones who were
near Him did not leave day or night, nor did they depart from Him. 24. And I had so long a veil upon my face,
and I trembled; and the Lord called me with His own voice and said to me: “Come hither, Enoch, and to
my holy word!” 25. And he caused me to arise and I went to the door; but I bent my face downwards.Here is what the Bible says regarding this…
Haggai 2:9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith
the LORD of Hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of Hosts.
Haggai 2:7 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come:
and I will fill this [Latter House] with glory, saith the “LORD of Hosts”=151.Jude:1:14-15 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold,
The LORD (Rev.21:2-3) cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon
all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly
committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against [The LORD JEHOVAH=151].And here is the fulfillment of Enoch's prophecy…
Deut:33:2: And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)EDJ………How could he come with ten thousands of Saints ,when there has not been a resurrection yet? That prophesy has not yet been fulfilled . It will be when Jesus returns and we are Caught up in the air with Him and will rule on the earth for a thousand Years with Him. There has been no first resurrection yet Only Jesus has been raised so far.
peace and love……………………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 01 2010,09:48) EDJ………How could he come with ten thousands of Saints ,when there has not been a resurrection yet? That prophesy has not yet been fulfilled . It will be when Jesus returns and we are Caught up in the air with Him and will rule on the earth for a thousand Years with Him. There has been no first resurrection yet Only Jesus has been raised so far. peace and love……………………………..gene
Hi Gene,There you go again: trying to make Scriptures
conform to your preconceived ideas of truth?The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ…………And there you go again not dealing with the truth posted to you nor answering the questions presented to you , Do you think by you saying , “trying to make scriptures conform to your preconceived ideas of truth”, answers any thing, because that is exactly what you do and trying to force yourself to a superior position as if you posses the truth is nothing but a Joke. Much like your phony number system which know one but you understands Here. IMO
gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 02 2010,01:08) EDJ…………And there you go again not dealing with the truth posted to you nor answering the questions presented to you , Do you think by you saying , “trying to make scriptures conform to your preconceived ideas of truth”, answers any thing, because that is exactly what you do and trying to force yourself to a superior position as if you posses the truth is nothing but a Joke. Much like your phony number system which know one but you understands Here. IMO gene
Hi Gene,What I see is ‘your opinions’; are you calling your opinions truth?
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ…………Yes the same as you do. Trying to make us think you are strictly a scripture man is false you add to many scriptures Like the Satan thing for instance that is also Just YOU OPINION , it is Not written as you Present It nor is your number system that also is YOUR OPINION. So why Lie and try to discredit Me when i say IN MY OPINION When You are doing the very same thing. First cast out the Beam out of Your own eye before You start trying to remove the splinter in someone else's eye, would be a good start for you (IN MY OPINION AND OTHERS ALSO).
gene
I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as Jesus is. This truth is one of the last things Jesus reveals about Himself in the last chapter of Revelations. The Root was not Jewish but the Shoot was Jewish. The doctrine of the only begotten Son being 100% God in nature and 100% Man in nature after the conception within Mary is found in the fact which Jesus claims about Himself as the Root and the Shoot of Jesse, imo. This is actually a common opinion.
LU and all,
1 Timothy 6:10
King James Version (KJV)10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
and
Proverbs 12:12
King James Version (KJV)12 The wicked desireth the net of evil men: but the root of the righteous yieldeth fruit.
Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,10:45) I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as Jesus is. This truth is one of the last things Jesus reveals about Himself in the last chapter of Revelations. The Root was not Jewish but the Shoot was Jewish. The doctrine of the only begotten Son being 100% God in nature and 100% Man in nature after the conception within Mary is found in the fact which Jesus claims about Himself as the Root and the Shoot of Jesse, imo. This is actually a common opinion.
Hi LU,Gal.3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Does this help?
Peace..
Kathi
Quote 100% Man in nature after the conception within Mary is found in the fact which Jesus claims about Himself as the Root and the Shoot of Jesse his flesh was 100 % human but not his soul ,his soul was the soul of THE WORD of God ,the only begotten son of God almighty,
this caused to make his sacrifice perfect ,without blemish
Quote (abe @ Feb. 25 2013,04:08) Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,10:45) I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as Jesus is. This truth is one of the last things Jesus reveals about Himself in the last chapter of Revelations. The Root was not Jewish but the Shoot was Jewish. The doctrine of the only begotten Son being 100% God in nature and 100% Man in nature after the conception within Mary is found in the fact which Jesus claims about Himself as the Root and the Shoot of Jesse, imo. This is actually a common opinion.
Hi LU,Gal.3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Does this help?
Peace..
Abe,It is what I have pointed out.
It is also a very applicable Scripture.
Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2013,00:45) I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as Jesus is. This truth is one of the last things Jesus reveals about Himself in the last chapter of Revelations. The Root was not Jewish but the Shoot was Jewish. The doctrine of the only begotten Son being 100% God in nature and 100% Man in nature after the conception within Mary is found in the fact which Jesus claims about Himself as the Root and the Shoot of Jesse, imo. This is actually a common opinion.
LU,Do you believe that Jesus is a hybrid being with 200% nature?
This should help LU and Kerwin.
Philippians 2:5-9
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,T8…> the terms “did not regard equality with God “, does not mean he was equal with God at all, but instead he did not try to make himself equal with God by grasping the opertunity he had by the power and authourity he had with God .
Another word he did not try to “ROB” God of his glory by trying to make himself equal with him, Just becasue he had God Nature in him. Instead he humbled himself and took onthe nature of a servant of God. And that is referring to when he was on this earth not before he ever came to the earth as some Kind of “PREEXISTENT BEING> Paul was obvisily refering to his earthly existence and not before that, as you falsely assume T8. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….,gene
To All……..> Now let talk about Jesus being the Root of Jesse, this clearly was speaking of his origns comming into existence through Jesse and hence through King David. No Scripture show Jesus was a Preexistent being before His berth on this earth and Jesus never said he preexisted before his berth either. Not so much as One scripture shows any “MOrPHING” Process ever taking Place. Mystery Religion forces texts to say what in FACT does not say,these people take scriptures they can twist the meanings to and come up with these false teaching , but when ask to produce SPICIFICE Scripture that says CLEARLY what they profess, they simply can't without forcing or adding meanings to text. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 25 2013,10:57) To All……..> Now let talk about Jesus being the Root of Jesse, this clearly was speaking of his origns comming into existence through Jesse and hence through King David.
Jesus said he is both the Root AND the Offspring of David.If “Root of David” means “Offspring of David”, like you claim, then Jesus was really saying that he is the offspring, and also the offspring, of David.
Does that really make sense to you, Gene?
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 25 2013,22:57) To All……..> Now let talk about Jesus being the Root of Jesse, this clearly was speaking of his origns comming into existence through Jesse and hence through King David. No Scripture show Jesus was a Preexistent being before His berth on this earth and Jesus never said he preexisted before his berth either. Not so much as One scripture shows any “MOrPHING” Process ever taking Place. Mystery Religion forces texts to say what in FACT does not say,these people take scriptures they can twist the meanings to and come up with these false teaching , but when ask to produce SPICIFICE Scripture that says CLEARLY what they profess, they simply can't without forcing or adding meanings to text. IMO peace and love to you and yours………………………………………….gene
geneshow me in scriptures that Jesus Christ HIS THE DESCENDANT OF DAVID BY THE FLESH
SINS HIS FATHER WAS NOT JOSEPH
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