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- August 31, 2020 at 3:48 pm#865736Ed JParticipant
Hi T8,
(1 John 5:9)
“If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater”
“We also have a more sure word of prophecy; where-
unto ye do well that ye take heed”
(2 Peter 1:19)This video helps to prove that prophecy is given as “a day for a year”
This video is on the 70 weeks of Daniel (prophecy of Jesus as Messiah).August 31, 2020 at 3:53 pm#865737Ed JParticipantPeople cannot possibly understand Prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled
if they cannot understand Prophecy that is proven to be already fulfilledTherefore the 2023 date sounds reasonable to mean the end of the dome of the rock
December 29, 2020 at 11:29 am#868440ProclaimerParticipantAgree with your first statement.
Second statement will be proven wrong or right in less than three years.December 29, 2020 at 11:30 am#868441ProclaimerParticipantI wonder what Ronald Weinlandand followers think now?
March 18, 2021 at 10:41 pm#869806ProclaimerParticipantWould be good to see some of his followers that commented here, turn up an apologise for the false teachings they promoted. It isn’t a good sign when they just run away.
March 18, 2021 at 10:58 pm#869808ProclaimerParticipantThis is a summary of the false prophet
July 17, 2021 at 8:37 pm#872146ProclaimerParticipantNo one left now. The consensus among his supporters must be by now that he was a false prophet.
Anyone who was deceived by him care to comment?
July 17, 2021 at 8:40 pm#872147ProclaimerParticipantAre you still on for believing the end of the dome of the rock in 2023?
July 17, 2021 at 9:45 pm#872149Ed JParticipantAre you still on for believing…
Hi T8,
I believe something will happen in 2023
602bc + 1,290 = 688ad
688ad + 1,335 = 2023adand yes, based on this verse…
Dan 12:12-13 “Blessed is he that waiteth,
and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest,
and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.”___________
God bless
Ed JJuly 17, 2021 at 10:03 pm#872150gadam123ParticipantI believe something will happen in 2023
602bc + 1,290 = 688ad
688ad + 1,335 = 2023adand yes, based on this verse…
Dan 12:12-13 “Blessed is he that waiteth,
and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest,
and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.”Hi Edj, good to hear from you after long time. The calculations based on the book of Daniel by assigning year to day principle is a mere speculation on Christian Apologists and not supported by any Hebrew or Jewish interpretations. This book was written by a Pseudo writer in 2nd BCE and was not counted among the Prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible. As per historians the writer was having his immediate context of Antiochene (crisis) application in 168-164 BCE and the Jewish interpretation are about the demolition of the Second Temple in 70 CE by Roman Army.
July 17, 2021 at 10:11 pm#872151ProclaimerParticipantHi Edj, good to hear from you after long time. The calculations based on the book of Daniel by assigning year to day principle is a mere speculation
Lol. Of course it is speculation. Did you just work that out. Or are you speculating. Lol.
July 17, 2021 at 11:57 pm#872152BereanParticipantEdj
1 prophétic day= 1 litteral year
Ok good but…..
But your starting point is not the right one,
because you put so much aside
….July 18, 2021 at 2:14 am#872153BereanParticipantHi To all
2300 Day Prophecy: Mathematical Proof that We are Living in the Final Days!
https://cvvnet.org/i/index.php?cmd=view&id=257382
God bless
July 18, 2021 at 3:08 am#872155GeneBalthropParticipantEdj… I also believe we are, very close to when Jesus our lord will return, anytime between now and 2o33 . That Is just my “OPINION” based on the present conditions and direction this world is going.
peace and love to you and yours …….gene
July 18, 2021 at 7:34 am#872169BereanParticipantHi To all
February 23, 2022 at 9:31 pm#929706ProclaimerParticipantTaken from Wikipedia
Tax evasion trial and imprisonment
On November 10, 2011, Weinland was indicted by a federal grand jury on five charges of tax evasion. It was alleged that he had understated his income on federal tax returns, redirected COG-PKG church funds for personal use and concealed the existence of a Swiss bank account.
Weinland admitted that church funds were placed in a bank account in Switzerland and that his was one of the two names on the account, but denied that there was any tax evasion, and stated that all funds had since been repatriated to the United States and used for church advertising. Weinland informed his church before opening the account, in a December 2002 sermon entitled “Planning Ahead”.
Weinland’s trial began on June 4, 2012. On June 13, after less than four hours of deliberation, a jury found Weinland guilty on all counts of tax evasion. He remained under house detention and electronic surveillance until his sentencing hearing. On November 14, 2012, Weinland was sentenced to 42 months’ imprisonment and a $245,000 tax restitution; his prison term ended in 2016.
Predictions
Under Weinland’s tutelage, the COG-PKG has adopted an apocalyptic belief in the imminent end of the existing world order. Weinland has repeatedly predicted the swift return of Jesus Christ, whom he believes will set up the Kingdom of God upon the Earth. This view was expressed in Weinland’s books, The Prophesied End-Time and 2008 – God’s Final Witness. In 2006, Weinland identified himself to be “the spokesman of [God’s] two end-time witnesses”, who are mentioned in the Book of Revelation. In an April 2008 sermon, he identified his wife, Laura, as the other witness of Revelation, and called Pope Benedict XVI a “false prophet”. Weinland furthermore claimed that he was “an end-time apostle to the world” and “the end-time Elijah to come”, as mentioned in Malachi 4:5-6.
2012–2013 prophecies
In 2008, Weinland wrote that “the final countdown has begun, as the 1,335 days before the actual day Jesus Christ returns began on Tuesday, September 30, 2008.” Weinland later changed his prophesied date for the return of Christ to Pentecost of 2012, which fell on May 27. Prior to this date, Weinland declared that 7,000 ministers and leading members of the Sabbatarian Churches of God would die in the Great Tribulation.
May 27, 2012, passed without Weinland’s predicted apocalypse. In a blog posting dated May 26, 2012, Weinland acknowledged that “nothing has begun in the world that would signal the need or purpose for … Christ’s return”. He urged his followers to “move forward”, and suggested that God had been, and continued to be, merciful to his people. He later stated that the end of the world had indeed begun on May 27, 2012, but would take “one year to become fulfilled”. Weinland next asserted that Christ would return on May 19, 2013 (Pentecost Sunday), but later withdrew this prediction. In a blog post dated May 13, 2013, Weinland stated that Christ would return on some future Pentecost Sunday, but only when the Earth had endured “much suffering”; he did not give a specific year. He expressed hope that members would remain with the church after May 19, 2013, which passed without any apocalyptic event.
Predictions for 2019 and beyond
June 9, 2019 is the date prophesied by Weinland in his book Prophecy Against the Nations as the second coming of Jesus Christ, which would be preceded by several biblical events in conjunction with the start of World War III. During the time leading up to this date, Weinland began to express uncertainties in his prediction by issuing statements such as “not everything is going to pan out the way you thought” or “Is Christ About to Return?” on his website. On his church’s website, Weinland continues to make predictions about end time events that range within the coming months and years.
February 24, 2022 at 7:04 am#929729BereanParticipantHi to all
Past….Now…..Future
THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.(Ecclesiastes 1:9)
Mathew 24:4 …And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
[5] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
[6] And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
[7] For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
[8] All these are the beginning of sorrows.Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
[10] And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
[12] And because iniquity shall abound, <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>the love of many shall wax cold.</span>
[13] But he that shall endure <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>unto the end, </span>the same shall be saved.[14] <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for A WITNESS unto ALL NATIONS; and THEN SHALL THE END COME. </span>
[15] <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place</span>, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Daniel 9:
[26]And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he(Messiah) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:</span>
[21] For <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. </span>👆
Revelation 12
[6] And the woman(church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.(1260 litterals years)
[13]And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.(1260 litterals years)
[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
[25] Behold, I have told you before.
[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.👇
[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[28] For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
[29] <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Immediately after the tribulation of those days </span><span style=”color: #000080;”>shall the sun be darkened, </span><span style=”color: #000080;”>and the moon shall not give her light, </span>
<span style=”color: #000080;”> and the stars shall fall from heaven, </span>
<span style=”color: #003366;”>and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 👇</span>
👉Rev.6
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHSUAKE <span style=”color: #008080;”>; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;</span>
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And <span style=”color: #003366;”>the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. </span>👉<span style=”color: #003366;”>The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord,” – Joel 2:31. </span>
<span style=”color: #003366;”>“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord.” – Acts 2:20.</span>
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[30] AND THEN shall appear the sign of THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN : <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man</span> <span style=”color: #ff9900;”>coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. </span>
👉 Rev.1. [7] Behold, <span style=”color: #003366;”>he(Jesus) cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him:</span> and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
[31] <span style=”color: #ff9900;”>And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.</span>
<h2><span style=”color: #008000;”>Historical elements confirming the prophecy</span></h2>
Prophecy not only foretells the manner and object of Christ’s coming, but presents tokens by which men are to know when it is near. Said Jesus: “There shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars.” Luke 21:25. “The sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.” Mark 13:24-26. The revelator thus describes the first of the signs to precede the second advent: “There was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.” Revelation 6:12. GC 304.1
These signs were witnessed before the opening of the nineteenth century. In fulfillment of this prophecy there occurred, in the year 1755, the most terrible earthquake that has ever been recorded. Though commonly known as the earthquake of Lisbon, it extended to the greater part of Europe, Africa, and America. It was felt in Greenland, in the West Indies, in the island of Madeira, in Norway and Sweden, Great Britain and Ireland. It pervaded an extent of not less than four million square miles. In Africa the shock was almost as severe as in Europe. A great part of Algiers was destroyed; and a short distance from Morocco, a village containing eight or ten thousand inhabitants was swallowed up. A vast wave swept over the coast of Spain and Africa engulfing cities and causing great destruction. GC 304.2
It was in Spain and Portugal that the shock manifested its extreme violence. At Cadiz the inflowing wave was said to be sixty feet high. Mountains, “some of the largest in Portugal, were impetuously shaken, as it were, from their very foundations, and some of them opened at their summits, which were split and rent in a wonderful manner, huge masses of them being thrown down into the subjacent valleys. Flames are related to have issued from these mountains.”—Sir Charles Lyell, Principles of Geology, page 495. GC 304.3
At Lisbon “a sound of thunder was heard underground, and immediately afterwards a violent shock threw down the greater part of that city. In the course of about six minutes sixty thousand persons perished. The sea first retired, and laid the bar dry; it then rolled in, rising fifty feet or more above its ordinary level.” “Among other extraordinary events related to have occurred at Lisbon during the catastrophe, was the subsidence of a new quay, built entirely of marble, at an immense expense. A great concourse of people had collected there for safety, as a spot where they might be beyond the reach of falling ruins; but suddenly the quay sank down with all the people on it, and not one of the dead bodies ever floated to the surface.”—Ibid., page 495. GC 305.1
“The shock” of the earthquake “was instantly followed by the fall of every church and convent, almost all the large public buildings, and more than one fourth of the houses. In about two hours after the shock, fires broke out in different quarters, and raged with such violence for the space of nearly three days, that the city was completely desolated. The earthquake happened on a holyday, when the churches and convents were full of people, very few of whom escaped.”—Encyclopedia Americana, art. “Lisbon,” note (ed. 1831). “The terror of the people was beyond description. Nobody wept; it was beyond tears. They ran hither and thither, delirious with horror and astonishment, beating their faces and breasts, crying, ‘Misericordia! the world’s at an end!’ Mothers forgot their children, and ran about loaded with crucifixed images. Unfortunately, many ran to the churches for protection; but in vain was the sacrament exposed; in vain did the poor creatures embrace the altars; images, priests, and people were buried in one common ruin.” It has been estimated that ninety thousand persons lost their lives on that fatal day. GC 305.2
Twenty-five years latera ppeared the next sign mentioned in the prophecy—the darkening of the sun and moon. What rendered this more striking was the fact that the time of its fulfillment had been definitely pointed out. In the Saviour’s conversation with His disciples upon Olivet, after describing the long period of trial for the church,—the 1260 years of papal persecution, concerning which He had promised that the tribulation should be shortened,—He thus mentioned certain events to precede His coming, and fixed the time when the first of these should be witnessed: “In those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light.” Mark 13:24. The 1260 days, or years, terminated in 1798. A quarter of a century earlier, persecution had almost wholly ceased. Following this persecution, according to the words of Christ, the sun was to be darkened. On the 19th of May, 1780, this prophecy was fulfilled. GC 306.1
“Almost, if not altogether alone, as the most mysterious and as yet unexplained phenomenon of its kind, … stands the dark day of May 19, 1780,—a most unaccountable darkening of the whole visible heavens and atmosphere in New England.”—R. M. Devens, Our First Century, page 89.
An eyewitness living in Massachusetts describes the event as follows: “In the morning the sun rose clear, but was soon overcast. The clouds became lowery, and from them, black and ominous, as they soon appeared, lightning flashed, thunder rolled, and a little rain fell. Toward nine o’clock, the clouds became thinner, and assumed a brassy or coppery appearance, and earth, rocks, trees, buildings, water, and persons were changed by this strange, unearthly light. A few minutes later, a heavy black cloud spread over the entire sky except a narrow rim at the horizon, and it was as dark as it usually is at nine o’clock on a summer evening…. GC 306.3
“Fear, anxiety, and awe gradually filled the minds of the people. Women stood at the door, looking out upon the dark landscape; men returned from their labor in the fields; the carpenter left his tools, the blacksmith his forge, the tradesman his counter. Schools were dismissed, and tremblingly the children fled homeward. Travelers put up at the nearest farmhouse. ‘What is coming?’ queried every lip and heart. It seemed as if a hurricane was about to dash across the land, or as if it was the day of the consummation of all things.
“Candles were used; and hearth fires shone as brightly as on a moonless evening in autumn…. Fowls retired to their roosts and went to sleep, cattle gathered at the pasture bars and lowed, frogs peeped, birds sang their evening songs, and bats flew about. But the human knew that night had not come…. GC 307.1
“Dr. Nathanael Whittaker, pastor of the Tabernacle church in Salem, held religious services in the meeting-house, and preached a sermon in which he maintained that the darkness was supernatural. Congregations came together in many other places. The texts for the extemporaneous sermons were invariably those that seemed to indicate that the darkness was consonant with Scriptural prophecy…. The darkness was most dense shortly after eleven o’clock.”—The Essex Antiquarian, April, 1899, vol. 3, No. 4, pp. 53, 54. “In most parts of the country it was so great in the daytime, that the people could not tell the hour by either watch or clock, nor dine, nor manage their domestic business, without the light of candles…. GC 307.2
“The extent of this darkness was extraordinary. It was observed as far east as Falmouth. To the westward it reached to the farthest part of Connecticut, and to Albany. To the southward, it was observed along the seacoasts; and to the north as far as the American settlements extend.”—William Gordon, History of the Rise, Progress, and Establishment of the Independence of the U.S.A., vol. 3, p. 57. GC 307.3
The intense darkness of the day was succeeded, an hour or two before evening, by a partially clear sky, and the sun appeared, though it was still obscured by the black, heavy mist. “After sundown, the clouds came again overhead, and it grew dark very fast.” “Nor was the darkness of the night less uncommon and terrifying than that of the day; notwithstanding there was almost a full moon, no object was discernible but by the help of some artificial light, which, when seen from the neighboring houses and other places at a distance, appeared through a kind of Egyptian darkness which seemed almost impervious to the rays.”—Isaiah Thomas, Massachusetts Spy; or, American Oracle of Liberty, vol. 10, No. 472 (May 25, 1780). Said an eyewitness of the scene: “I could not help conceiving at the time, that if every luminous body in the universe had been shrouded in impenetrable shades, or struck out of existence, the darkness could not have been more complete.”—Letter by Dr. Samuel Tenney, of Exeter, New Hampshire, December, 1785 (in Massachusetts Historical Society Collections, 1792, 1st series, vol. 1, p. 97). Though at nine o’clock that night the moon rose to the full, “it had not the least effect to dispel the deathlike shadows.” After midnight the darkness disappeared, and the moon, when first visible, had the appearance of blood. GC 307.4
May 19, 1780, stands in history as “The Dark Day.” Since the time of Moses no period of darkness of equal density, extent, and duration, has ever been recorded. The description of this event, as given by eyewitnesses, is but an echo of the words of the Lord, recorded by the prophet Joel, twenty-five hundred years previous to their fulfillment: “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.” Joel 2:31.
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