Revelation11. before the coming.

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  • #321499
    terraricca
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    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 23 2012,12:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 23 2012,05:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2012,17:56)
    Terra.

    When you see the 2 witnesses prophesying in israel,this will soon be the coming. 3/half yrs before the coming.

    And when you see the 2 witnesses killed,we only have a few days before the coming.

    wakeup.


    where is it said that they preach ???


    Terra,

    Revelation 11:8
       And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Jesus was crucified in Israel which God spiritually calls Sodom & Egypt because they rebelled against their Messiah and are thus spiritually desolate just like Sodom was and Egypt still is.
    So the two witnesses will preach in Israel just as Wakeup said…and they will be killed in Jerusalem (the great city)


    DEVO

    Did you mean: golgotha
    Mat 27:33 They came to a place called Golgotha (which means “Place of the Skull”)
    Mar 15:22 They brought Jesus to a place called Golgotha (which is translated, “Place of the Skull”).
    Joh 19:17 and carrying his own cross he went out to the place called “The Place of the Skull” (called in Aramaic Golgotha).
    Luk 23:33 So when they came to the place that is called “The Skull,” they crucified him there, along with the criminals, one on his right and one on his left.

    TELL ME WAS NOT JESUS CRUSIFIED OUT SIDE OF JERUSALEM ??? SCRIPTURES SAY SO ;LOOK AT VERSE JOHN 19;17 JESUS WENT “OUT ” OF WHAT ??? OUT OF JERUSALEM TO THE PLACE CALLED GOLGOTHA,

    YOU SHOULD TEACH WAKEUP THIS,

    AS FOR WHAT IT SAYS IN REVELATION ;

    Rev 11:7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.
    Rev 11:8 Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

    YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING THOSE VERSES

    #321502
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the GREATE CITY, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Where did you get golgotha from? Golgotha is not a city.

    It says clearly THE GREAT CITY.(jerusalem).
    You are using your own precept.

    wakeup.

    #321654
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2012,02:02)

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 23 2012,12:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 23 2012,05:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2012,17:56)
    Terra.

    When you see the 2 witnesses prophesying in israel,this will soon be the coming. 3/half yrs before the coming.

    And when you see the 2 witnesses killed,we only have a few days before the coming.

    wakeup.


    where is it said that they preach ???


    Terra,

    Revelation 11:8
       And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Jesus was crucified in Israel which God spiritually calls Sodom & Egypt because they rebelled against their Messiah and are thus spiritually desolate just like Sodom was and Egypt still is.
    So the two witnesses will preach in Israel just as Wakeup said…and they will be killed in Jerusalem (the great city)


    DEVO

    Did you mean: golgotha
    Mat 27:33 They came to a place called Golgotha (which means “Place of the Skull”)
    Mar 15:22 They brought Jesus to a place called Golgotha (which is translated, “Place of the Skull”).
    Joh 19:17 and carrying his own cross he went out to the place called “The Place of the Skull” (called in Aramaic Golgotha).
    Luk 23:33 So when they came to the place that is called “The Skull,” they crucified him there, along with the criminals, one on his right and one on his left.

    TELL ME WAS NOT JESUS CRUSIFIED OUT SIDE OF JERUSALEM ??? SCRIPTURES SAY SO ;LOOK AT VERSE JOHN 19;17 JESUS WENT “OUT ” OF WHAT ??? OUT OF JERUSALEM TO THE PLACE CALLED GOLGOTHA,

    YOU SHOULD TEACH WAKEUP THIS,

    AS FOR WHAT IT SAYS IN REVELATION ;

    Rev 11:7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.
    Rev 11:8 Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

    YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING THOSE VERSES


    Terra,

    How on earth do you even get this wrong?
    It's mind boggling to say the least.
    Whatever you are doing against God, I suggest you seriously examine yourself and STOP whatever it is.
    This is some serious BLOCKING God is doing to you, SERIOUS, ever since you started mocking us, you have been going BACKWARDS…we have all noticed it…just like Ed is getting worse and worse.
    Next you'll be claiming that you're one of the characters in the bible like Ed thinks he is!!
    Repent and humble yourself.
    Don't be jealous over who God Himself CHOOSES to reveal things, its not our fault we are living His way and not just speaking it…maybe you should try it too and perhaps God will reverse your downward slope into confusion.

    Golgotha is just outside of Jerusalems city walls yet still WITHIN the land of Israel as I said and still within the district of Jerusalem for that matter…you know, that great city.

    So no, we got it right and YOU are way off the mark & getting nastier & nastier while you're at it.
    What manner of spirit are you allowing to pervade your being?
    REPENT.

    #321656
    Devolution
    Participant

    BTW Terra,

    If I said to a friend, meet me just outside of my city of Perth at so and so bridge, guess what…that bridge is still within the district of Perth!! It's just NOT in the city proper.

    So if GOD SAYS our Lord was crucified in that great city meaning Jerusalem, I will believe Him over any man.

    And for the record, NO MAN is exactly sure where Golgotha is anyway, scripture says it is just outside the city gates but does not say WHICH gate…so it is still considered to be in Jerusalem just not in the city proper.

    I will pray for you.

    #321669
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 24 2012,20:30)
    Terra,

    Next you'll be claiming that you're one of the characters in the bible like Ed thinks he is!!


    Hi Devolution,

    “Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord.
     If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying,
     they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake,
     because they know not (יהוה חאלהים YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm,) him that sent me.” (John 15:20-21)

    I have been nothing but nice to you – have I not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #321702
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 24 2012,20:30)
    Terra,

    Next you'll be claiming that you're one of the characters in the bible like Ed thinks he is!!


    Hi Devolution,

         Was Cyrus also wrong for believing he was a character in the bible?      

    “Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden,
     to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before
     him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;” (Isaiah 45:1)

    …or how about Jesus, was he also wrong for believing he was a character in the bible?      

    “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which
     testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour
     from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.” (John 5:39-42)


    1Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
    and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God ?

                                           YHVH is GOD
                             And they called “the altar” עֵד (Ed)

    Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
    (and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called “the altar”
    (עד Ed); for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that [YHVH is “GOD”].

    Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
    (Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117].

                   (117)יהוה האלהים = YHVH is GOD(117)
    וַיִּקְרְאוְּ בְּנֵי־רְאוְּבֵן וְּבְנֵי־גָד לַמִּזְבֵּחַ כִּי עֵד הוְּא בֵּינֹתֵינוְּ כִּי יְהוָה הָאֱלֹהִים Joshua 22:34


    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Isa 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #321741
    Wakeup
    Participant

    EDJ.

    You have gone too far by numbering THE MOST HIGH GOD,
    AND OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS,you can not put a number on persons. What more put a number on God and his Son.

    wakeup.

    #321747
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    “And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,
     Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as
     the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and
     compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and
     fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
    Take a guess what sand of the sea equals? (Rev 20:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #321761
    journey42
    Participant

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    Hi Devolution,

         Was Cyrus also wrong for believing he was a character in the bible?   

    …or how about Jesus, was he also wrong for believing he was a character in the bible?  

        

                             

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    And they called “the altar” עֵד (Ed)

    Hi Ed

    Galatians 5:26 ….LET US NOT BE DESIRIOUS OF VAIN GLORY, provoking one another, envying one another.

    Galatians 6:3   For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
    Galatians 6:7   Be not decieved; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  

    1 Corinth 3:20   And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are VAIN.
    1 Corinth 3:21   Therefore LET NO MAN GLORY IN MEN.  For all things are yours.

    1 Corinth 4:5   Therefore ….JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME…. , UNTIL THE LORD COME, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make MANIFEST the counsels of the hearts: ….AND THEN…. shall every man have praise of God.

    #321762
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georgie,

    Thus saith [The LORD JEHOVAH](151), Let not the wise man glory(77) in his wisdom,
    neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:

    But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that
    (117) which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness,
    in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith [The LORD JEHOVAH].” (Jer. 9:23-24)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #321763
    journey42
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

    [/quote]

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    …or how about Jesus, was he also wrong for believing he was a character in the bible?      

    EDJ,

    Hearing your statement sounds so wrong.  
    Jesus was so much more than just a character in the bible,
    he is the Son of God,
    and was with God from the beginning (The Word)  
    and he knows all things.  

    #321765
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georgie,

    Of course Jesus is God's only begotten son and he became “The Christ” at his baptism.
    That is when “The Word”(HolySpirit) became flesh, which is what John meant in John 1:14.

      You do know that he stooped down to pick us up, right??

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us
    . (Romans 8:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #321777
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2012,11:11)
    Hi Georgie,

    Of course Jesus is God's only begotten son and he became “The Christ” at his baptism.
    That is when “The Word”(HolySpirit) became flesh, which is what John meant in John 1:14.

      You do know that he stooped down to pick us up, right??

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us
    . (Romans 8:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj

    We all know who Christ is, and what he did for us.
    it's him we should be preaching, not ourselves.

    #321779
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georgie,

    Is not the reason we preach Christ, to bring them to the Father?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #321784
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2012,07:44)
    Hi Wakeup,

    “And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,
     Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as
     the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and
     compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and
     fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
    Take a guess what sand of the sea equals? (Rev 20:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    1. number: AS put a number a person or put a mark.
    2. number: AS quantity: as many; as the sand of the sea.

    you need to learn how to decern the scriptures.

    wakeup.

    #321863
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2012,12:42)
    Hi Georgie,

    Is not the reason we preach Christ, to bring them to the Father?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Thats right Edj,
    Not preaching ourselves.
    So why are you saying you are a character from the bible?

    #321882
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 26 2012,02:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2012,12:42)
    Hi Georgie,

    Is not the reason we preach Christ, to bring them to the Father?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Thats right Edj,
    Not preaching ourselves.
    So why are you saying you are a character from the bible?


    Hi Georgie,

    Because I would be lying to say otherwise.  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #321950
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,03:29)

    Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 26 2012,02:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2012,12:42)
    Hi Georgie,

    Is not the reason we preach Christ, to bring them to the Father?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Thats right Edj,
    Not preaching ourselves.
    So why are you saying you are a character from the bible?


    Hi Georgie,

    Because I would be lying to say otherwise.  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj,

    It's hard to take you serious when you say things like that.

    You insult our spiritual intellegence.

    #321957
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georgie,

    You don't take anything outside of your understanding seriously, so what's changed?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322000
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2012,09:32)
    Hi Georgie,

    You don't take anything outside of your understanding seriously, so what's changed?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj

    I have no intention on mocking, or belittling you, but am intrigued why you think this?

    If you are so sure of yourself, that you are a character mentioned in the bible, then can you prove it?

    I would like to take this conversation to the hot seat.
    Would you be willing to participate ed?
    As I would like to have a serious conversation regarding this claim of yours.

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