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  • #311587
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,09:05)

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,21:23)
    Hi Wakeup,

    To bad you ain't more agreeable on the other threads.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    If it does not harmonise With scripture,I will disagree.

    wakeup.


    ditto


    EDJ.

    This is unfortunately not the truth.
    Sample: Dan 7:20. And of the 10 HORNS THAT WERE IN HIS HEAD.——(one head with the 10 horns in it).

    You said; no: but the 10 horns are on many heads.
    ( this is disregarding the scriptures,to serve your own desires).

    wakeup.

    #311593
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,21:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,18:54)
    God is truth,God is the word


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree here.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    Here is some more for you:
    The word proceeded out of God(John 16:27.).(17:8.).

    The Holy spirit is in the word.(truth).

    wakeup.


    wup

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    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    are you talking about the written word of God ???

    if so how could someone be his own words ???

    #311597
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,22:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,21:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,18:54)
    God is truth,God is the word


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree here.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    Here is some more for you:
    The word proceeded out of God(John 16:27.).(17:8.).

    The Holy spirit is in the word.(truth).

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    are you talking about the written word of God ???

    if so how could someone be his own words ???


    Terra.

    Simple; YOUR WORD IS YOU,AND NO ONE ELSE.

    You word belongs to you; you dont belong to your word.
    You are the chief,not your word. Your word can not tell you anything. You tell your word what to say.You are always in charge of your own word.

    wakeup.

    #311602
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,06:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,22:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,21:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,18:54)
    God is truth,God is the word


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree here.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    Here is some more for you:
    The word proceeded out of God(John 16:27.).(17:8.).

    The Holy spirit is in the word.(truth).

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    are you talking about the written word of God ???

    if so how could someone be his own words ???


    Terra.

    Simple; YOUR WORD IS YOU,AND NO ONE ELSE.

    You word belongs to you;  you dont belong to your word.
    You are the chief,not your word. Your word can not tell you anything. You tell your word what to say.You are always in charge of your own word.

    wakeup.


    wup

    so it is not like you say ;I need to correct myself: The word is God.”””

    so it should be ;the words of God are of God ,but not IS GOD” right ???

    #311607
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,01:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,06:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,22:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,21:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,18:54)
    God is truth,God is the word


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree here.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    Here is some more for you:
    The word proceeded out of God(John 16:27.).(17:8.).

    The Holy spirit is in the word.(truth).

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    are you talking about the written word of God ???

    if so how could someone be his own words ???


    Terra.

    Simple; YOUR WORD IS YOU,AND NO ONE ELSE.

    You word belongs to you;  you dont belong to your word.
    You are the chief,not your word. Your word can not tell you anything. You tell your word what to say.You are always in charge of your own word.

    wakeup.


    wup

    so it is not like you say ;I need to correct myself: The word is God.”””

    so it should be ;the words of God are of God ,but not IS GOD” right ???


    Terra.

    The word of God, is his word.
    yes.

    wakeup.

    #311621
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,10:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,01:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,06:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,22:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,21:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,18:54)
    God is truth,God is the word


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree here.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    Here is some more for you:
    The word proceeded out of God(John 16:27.).(17:8.).

    The Holy spirit is in the word.(truth).

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    are you talking about the written word of God ???

    if so how could someone be his own words ???


    Terra.

    Simple; YOUR WORD IS YOU,AND NO ONE ELSE.

    You word belongs to you;  you dont belong to your word.
    You are the chief,not your word. Your word can not tell you anything. You tell your word what to say.You are always in charge of your own word.

    wakeup.


    wup

    so it is not like you say ;I need to correct myself: The word is God.”””

    so it should be ;the words of God are of God ,but not IS GOD” right ???


    Terra.

    The word of God, is his word.
    yes.

    wakeup.


    wup

    again ;the words that God make know to all of us by the means of his chosen prophets or by his son Jesus Christ ,are not him BUT FROM HIM RIGHT ???

    and when God through his prophet made them write it down for the generations to come IT IS STILL HIS WORDS RIGHT .???

    and Gods words are his will ,and his teachings right ???

    but in John 1;1 it does not talk about words verbal or written right ??? yes .and in revelation;19;13,
    but in revelation 19;9 it talks about the words that God has made known,right ???

    #311637
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,06:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,10:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,01:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,06:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,22:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2012,21:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,19:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 01 2012,18:54)
    God is truth,God is the word


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree here.  :)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    Here is some more for you:
    The word proceeded out of God(John 16:27.).(17:8.).

    The Holy spirit is in the word.(truth).

    wakeup.


    wup

    Quote
    I need to correct myself: The word is God.
    Not God is the word.

    are you talking about the written word of God ???

    if so how could someone be his own words ???


    Terra.

    Simple; YOUR WORD IS YOU,AND NO ONE ELSE.

    You word belongs to you;  you dont belong to your word.
    You are the chief,not your word. Your word can not tell you anything. You tell your word what to say.You are always in charge of your own word.

    wakeup.


    wup

    so it is not like you say ;I need to correct myself: The word is God.”””

    so it should be ;the words of God are of God ,but not IS GOD” right ???


    Terra.

    The word of God, is his word.
    yes.

    wakeup.


    wup

    again ;the words that God make know to all of us by the means of his chosen prophets or by his son Jesus Christ ,are not him BUT FROM HIM RIGHT ???

    and when God through his prophet made them write it down for the generations to come IT IS STILL HIS WORDS RIGHT .???

    and Gods words are his will ,and his teachings right ???

    but in John 1;1 it does not talk about words verbal or written right ??? yes .and in revelation;19;13,
    but in revelation 19;9 it talks about the words that God has made known,right ???


    Terrra.

    In old times,God spoke to the prophets, and the prophets spoke to the people.

    But Jesus is the word itself made flesh.
    when jesus speaks;it is God speaking.

    When Jesus said: I and my Father are one; what he is saying is. the word and God are one. for God is one.

    You can not bring your word out,and give it a shape as another person can you? NO.
    BUT GOD CAN; AND HE DID,AS HE HAS ALWAYS DONE,FROM THE BEGINNING.
    And today He is sitting next to God.

    wakeup.

    #311640
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    Quote
    Terrra.

    In old times,God spoke to the prophets, and the prophets spoke to the people.

    But Jesus is the word itself made flesh.
    when jesus speaks;it is God speaking.

    When Jesus said: I and my Father are one; what he is saying is. the word and God are one. for God is one.

    You can not bring your word out,and give it a shape as another person can you? NO.
    BUT GOD CAN; AND HE DID,AS HE HAS ALWAYS DONE,FROM THE BEGINNING.
    And today He is sitting next to God.

    wakeup.

    first God does not change ,this is a truth ,that can not change either

    in John 1;1 it talks about ;

    Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
    Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
    Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
    Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
    Jn 1:6 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John.
    Jn 1:7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe.
    Jn 1:8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
    Jn 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.
    Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
    Jn 1:11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
    Jn 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—
    Jn 1:13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
    Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    in those verses above that I quoted it is not talked about words verbal or written but about someone called THE WORD he is of God no doubts about it

    Paul talks about him this way ;

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
    Col 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.
    Col 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
    Col 1:23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

    it seems to me that John and Paul are on the same level and understand who Christ his

    Solomon in his wisdom also understood something about God and his son ;this is a letter from a father to a son and a son that knows his father .

    Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
    before his deeds of old;
    Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
    from the beginning, before the world began.
    Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
    when there were no springs abounding with water;
    Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
    before the hills, I was given birth,
    Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
    or any of the dust of the world.
    Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
    when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
    Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
    and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
    Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
    so the waters would not overstep his command,
    and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
    Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
    I was filled with delight day after day,
    rejoicing always in his presence,
    Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
    and delighting in mankind.

    Pr 8:32 “Now then, my sons, listen to me;
    blessed are those who keep my ways.
    Pr 8:33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
    do not ignore it.
    Pr 8:34 Blessed is the man who listens to me,
    watching daily at my doors

    yes Christ the true son of God did better than Solomon he stay faithful to his father and God

    NOW THOSE THREE SETS OF SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING SIMILAR THINGS ABOUT ONE SINGLE PERSON AND THAT HIS JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD AND THE WORD.(SPOKESPERSON)BETWEEN GOD AND HIS CREATION,THIS POSITION WAS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD SAVE MANKIND ,IF YOU UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES ,

    #311648
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,11:54)
    wup

    Quote
    Terrra.

    In old times,God spoke to the prophets, and the prophets spoke to the people.

    But Jesus is the word itself made flesh.
    when jesus speaks;it is God speaking.

    When Jesus said: I and my Father are one; what he is saying is. the word and God are one. for God is one.

    You can not bring your word out,and give it a shape as another person can you? NO.
    BUT GOD CAN; AND HE DID,AS HE HAS ALWAYS DONE,FROM THE BEGINNING.
    And today He is sitting next to God.

    wakeup.

    first God does not change ,this is a truth ,that can not change either

    in John 1;1 it talks about ;

    Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
    Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
    Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
    Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
    Jn 1:6 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John.
    Jn 1:7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe.
    Jn 1:8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
    Jn 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.
    Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
    Jn 1:11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
    Jn 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—
    Jn 1:13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
    Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    in those verses above that I quoted it is not talked about words verbal or written but about someone called THE WORD he is of God no doubts about it

    Paul talks about him this way ;

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
    Col 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.
    Col 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
    Col 1:23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

    it seems to me that John and Paul are on the same level and understand who Christ his

    Solomon in his wisdom also understood something about God and his son ;this is a letter from a father to a son and a son that knows his father .

    Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
    before his deeds of old;
    Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
    from the beginning, before the world began.
    Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
    when there were no springs abounding with water;
    Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
    before the hills, I was given birth,
    Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
    or any of the dust of the world.
    Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
    when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
    Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
    and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
    Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
    so the waters would not overstep his command,
    and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
    Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
    I was filled with delight day after day,
    rejoicing always in his presence,
    Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
    and delighting in mankind.

    Pr 8:32 “Now then, my sons, listen to me;
    blessed are those who keep my ways.
    Pr 8:33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
    do not ignore it.
    Pr 8:34 Blessed is the man who listens to me,
    watching daily at my doors

    yes Christ the true son of God did better than Solomon he stay faithful to his father and God

    NOW THOSE THREE SETS OF SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING SIMILAR THINGS ABOUT ONE SINGLE PERSON AND THAT HIS JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD AND THE WORD.(SPOKESPERSON)BETWEEN GOD AND HIS CREATION,THIS POSITION WAS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD SAVE MANKIND ,IF YOU UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES ,


    Terra.

    Jesus is not just a spokes person; the prophets were.

    Jesus is GODS WORD MADE FLESH; he is the word of God it self.

    God send his own word to earth in the form of the flesh.
    That word of God is now like any human,but holy and clean without any sin. He was made of the(dna) root of David.

    His name is called by his father ''Jesus'' born a man,not spirit.

    That man was changed into spirit by God at his resurrection,and is now sitting next to his Father.

    The bible:
    The bible is also the word of God;but printed on paper.
    If we follow the bible truly,we also follow jesus truly,and we also follow God truly.

    For those words printed are Gods words spoken through the mouth of Jesus,who is Gods word as a creature created by God. He was the beginning of the creation of God. Most christians can not accept this,but its the truth.

    Before anything was created; God brought forth his own word; God brings it out of himself,his word and gave him a shape like himself.(in spirit form,not flesh).
    And by him are all created, by the will of God.

    wakeup.

    #311650
    terraricca
    Participant

    Wup

    I have quoted you scriptures but you have shown me non ,just your opinion ,and that is not supported in scriptures,

    How could Gos almighty send his word (his own verbal or written words not yet spoken and become flesh ??? And I remind you that Christ is a prophet ,greater than .Moses.

    Witch of the scriptures that I quoted you are lies ???

    Please read those scriptures with a pure heart and mind,

    #311651
    terraricca
    Participant

    Wup

    No God did not make his own words become flesh this is false ,what would be the purpose of it ???

    God as use men for generations,even now his son ,did he lied when he said that Christ was his son instead of his spoken words???
    Why would God send his spoken words and call him his son when it is his words ???

    Your explanation really does not make sense or as no purpose,and that's why it is not found in scriptures and you have to make up a story for it,a story without sense

    #311652
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,13:41)
    Wup

    No God did not make his own words become flesh this is false ,what would be the purpose of it ???

    God as use men for generations,even now his son ,did he lied when he said that Christ was his son instead of his spoken words???
    Why would God send his spoken words and call him his son when it is his words ???

    Your explanation really does not make sense or as no purpose,and that's why it is not found in scriptures and you have to make up a story for it,a story without sense


    Terra.

    You still can not understand, that Gods word was –MADE– FLESH.
    Jesus is noy just a spokesman of the word.
    For he said that he had glory with his father from the beginning.
    And he also said that no man has ascended to heaven but he that came down from heaven.

    So he came down from heaven in the form of a person.

    wakeup.

    #311653
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,21:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,13:41)
    Wup

    No God did not make his own words become flesh this is false ,what would be the purpose of it ???

    God as use men for generations,even now his son ,did he lied when he said that Christ was his son instead of his spoken words???
    Why would God send his spoken words and call him his son when it is his words ???

    Your explanation really does not make sense or as no purpose,and that's why it is not found in scriptures and you have to make up a story for it,a story without sense


    Terra.

    You still can not understand, that Gods word was –MADE– FLESH.
    Jesus is noy just a spokesman of the word.
    For he said that he had glory with his father from the beginning.
    And he also said that no man has ascended to heaven but he that came down from heaven.

    So he came down from heaven in the form of a person.

    wakeup.


    Wup

    Without scriptures I can not understand nothing,

    Words do not become flesh ,and you do not answer my questions in my quotes ,because you can not,only opinions can you present to me,

    Opinion,from wonderland dreams with no sense to it,my name is not Peter pan,

    Open your eyes and see the truth in scriptures,I have shown you ,are the written words of John,Paul,Solomon,who have talk through the holy spirit have no value to you ???

    I am sure they do ,so think and understand

    #311660
    Ed J
    Participant

    Pierre and Wakeup,

    “That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
    by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth
    in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” (Ephesians 4:14-15)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #311663
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote
    Without scriptures I can not understand nothing,

    Words do not become flesh ,and you do not answer my questions in my quotes ,because you can not,only opinions can you present to me,


    Pierre

    John 1:14   And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    #311664
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 04 2012,15:35)

    Quote
    Without scriptures I can not understand nothing,

    Words do not become flesh ,and you do not answer my questions in my quotes ,because you can not,only opinions can you present to me,


    Pierre

    John 1:14   And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


    “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth (at his water baptism) with
    the HolySpirit(John 1:14) and with power: who went about doing good,
    and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was [with/in] him.” (Acts 10:38)

    2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(The Word) was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,
    not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word (Ho Logos) of reconciliation.

    #311679
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,14:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,21:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,13:41)
    Wup

    No God did not make his own words become flesh this is false ,what would be the purpose of it ???

    God as use men for generations,even now his son ,did he lied when he said that Christ was his son instead of his spoken words???
    Why would God send his spoken words and call him his son when it is his words ???

    Your explanation really does not make sense or as no purpose,and that's why it is not found in scriptures and you have to make up a story for it,a story without sense


    Terra.

    You still can not understand, that Gods word was –MADE– FLESH.
    Jesus is noy just a spokesman of the word.
    For he said that he had glory with his father from the beginning.
    And he also said that no man has ascended to heaven but he that came down from heaven.

    So he came down from heaven in the form of a person.

    wakeup.


    Wup

    Without scriptures I can not understand nothing,

    Words do not become flesh ,and you do not answer my questions in my quotes ,because you can not,only opinions can you present to me,

    Opinion,from wonderland dreams with no sense to it,my name is not Peter pan,

    Open your eyes and see the truth in scriptures,I have shown you ,are the written words of John,Paul,Solomon,who have talk through the holy spirit have no value to you ???

    I am sure they do ,so think and understand


    Terra.

    John 1:14. AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH AND DWELT AMONGST US.——

    wakeup.

    #311693
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 05 2012,04:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,14:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 04 2012,21:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,13:41)
    Wup

    No God did not make his own words become flesh this is false ,what would be the purpose of it ???

    God as use men for generations,even now his son ,did he lied when he said that Christ was his son instead of his spoken words???
    Why would God send his spoken words and call him his son when it is his words ???

    Your explanation really does not make sense or as no purpose,and that's why it is not found in scriptures and you have to make up a story for it,a story without sense


    Terra.

    You still can not understand, that Gods word was –MADE– FLESH.
    Jesus is noy just a spokesman of the word.
    For he said that he had glory with his father from the beginning.
    And he also said that no man has ascended to heaven but he that came down from heaven.

    So he came down from heaven in the form of a person.

    wakeup.


    Wup

    Without scriptures I can not understand nothing,

    Words do not become flesh ,and you do not answer my questions in my quotes ,because you can not,only opinions can you present to me,

    Opinion,from wonderland dreams with no sense to it,my name is not Peter pan,

    Open your eyes and see the truth in scriptures,I have shown you ,are the written words of John,Paul,Solomon,who have talk through the holy spirit have no value to you ???

    I am sure they do ,so think and understand


    Terra.

    John 1:14. AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH AND DWELT AMONGST US.——

    wakeup.


    wup,,J42

    words do not walk,and can not be transformed into flesh ,

    so the WORD his a person in John1;1 just as it is in Rev19

    he is the son of God and the son is not words but a person a being that came in flesh and blood,

    read the pile of scriptures a have given you,

    do not be stuck on one partial scripture to defend your miss understanding ,look at all the scriptures.

    #311694
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 04 2012,22:35)

    Quote
    Without scriptures I can not understand nothing,

    Words do not become flesh ,and you do not answer my questions in my quotes ,because you can not,only opinions can you present to me,


    Pierre

    John 1:14   And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


    j42

    are words made flesh ??? can words walk ??? are words the son of God ???

    can words be touched ??? can words have a glory of their own ??? if yes how is that ???

    please answer all questions

    this is to show that THE WORD is not words but a being he is the son of God call Jesus Christ and as the name THE WORD OF GOD ;REV;19

    #311696
    journey42
    Participant

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    Quote
    j42

    are words made flesh ??? can words walk ??? are words the son of God ???

    can words be touched ??? can words have a glory of their own ??? if yes how is that ???

    please answer all questions

    this is to show that THE WORD is not words but a being he is the son of God call Jesus Christ  and as the name THE WORD OF GOD ;REV;19


    Pierre

    I know it's hard to comprehend.  But once you get your head around it, you will know truly who the Son is, for the Father will reveal it to you.

    The scriptures here are blunt and straight forward.
    Must read it from a spiritual perspective, the words are coming from above, not from below.
    Everything from above works differently from the way we know it down here,
    for example, there was no beginning with God.
    Can we fathom that? that he always was, never without a beginning, and never without an end.  Always eternal?
    but with us, there is a beginning and an end.  We are born and we die.
    two different rules here apply,
    one for the spirit world and one for the earthly.

    God is Spirit, so he speaks to us spiritually.
    We cannot turn our word into flesh,
    but God can turn his word into flesh,
    God can do anything he pleases,
    and he did this, so that his Word can dwell with men

    John 1:1   In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    John 1:14   And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    Pierre, when was this Word made flesh?

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