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    Wakeup
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    REVELATION CHAPTER 6.THE 7 SEALS.

    The first seal: A white horse,the rider has a bow and a crown was GIVEN UNTO HIM: and went forth conquering and to conquer.

    The christian religions was spread by conquering nations,and converting them into christians,but each their own doctrines of christianity: the catholics,the prostetants,the anglicans,and from this comes all the different splits as we have today.
    ———————-
    The second seal: The red horse,and peace was taken from the earth;that they should kill one another,and a GREAT SWORD WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM.

    Before the great sword was given;men wars with bows and spears. In the second WORLD WAR,the war was with the great sword. meaning modern warfare,with guns and bombs and flying machines,that can kill many.
    Then came the second ww.These wars suppose to end all the wars.But God said that peace will be taken from the earth.
    —————————————

    The third seal:A black horse;the rider had a pair of balances,measuring food consumptions,and not to hurt the oil and the wine:
    Black is the color of darkness; spiritual darkness and as of the future,is dark.
    famine,draughts,global warmings,floods causing destruction to
    the crops in one place, and no rain in some other place.
    Dont hurt the oil: the oil must keep on pumping.(we can run cars on water,but no,cant do that). The wine; dont hurt any religion,let everyone have their own religion,all is good.dont cause trouble,let them be drunken with their own religion.
    ———————————————

    The fourth seal: A pale horse and the rider is death itself.
    And hell followed him,and power was GIVEN HIM,TO KILL WITH HUNGER AND WITH SWORD.
    This is coming soon when the false prophet starts riding.
    He will make war with the saints,and everyone that will not worship him and the image.Anyone that will not receive the
    mark,can not buy or sell;there will be hunger and murder.
    —————————————-

    The fifth seal:
    All the saints that were killed for God during the centuries,symbolicly crying for revenge,but God said to wait untill their fellow brothers also will be killed,and they were given white robes.
    The revenge will come (done),mentioned in rev.18:20.
    babylon will be no more.
    ————————————————-

    The sixth seal:
    This is the signs of the coming; but between the sixth seal and the fifth seal; during the reign of the false prophet, the first trumpet will sound,and will continue to the seventh trumpet;the coming.

    wakeup.

    #308885
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    unless you take all of revelation into account or you will not see truth ,and do not mix it with any other book ,

    all the prophet up to Jesus were prophetizind about Christ and Jerusalem the earthly city,and some made allusion to the new city of God and the new covenant.

    #308900
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,10:34)
    wup

    unless you take all of revelation into account or you will not see truth ,and do not mix it with any other book ,

    all the prophet up to Jesus were prophetizind about Christ and Jerusalem the earthly city,and some made allusion to the new city of God and the new covenant.


    Terra.

    Most of the bible is about prophesies,but sadly enough they are not part of the churches preaching.
    Why is it? because they dont know,and they dont want to know. Why because its preaching doom to them,and the flock only likes smooth preaching to have their ears tickled.

    The prophesies are indeed about destruction and punishment,it is indeed doom, but only to them that dont love the new world to come.They love this world,as it is.
    But to the true believers; it is time for rejoicing,not doom.

    We will see our Lord face to face,and all the old prophets,and Abraham,and live in the glorious kingdom for ever,teaching the jews; and the jew teaching the gentile nations outside the kingdom.

    There will be nations still outside, but with no power.
    Remember all technology will be no more.(bab. is no more).

    wakeup.

    #308901
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?

    #308902
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???

    #308903
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,22:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,10:34)
    wup

    unless you take all of revelation into account or you will not see truth ,and do not mix it with any other book ,

    all the prophet up to Jesus were prophetizind about Christ and Jerusalem the earthly city,and some made allusion to the new city of God and the new covenant.


    Terra.

    Most of the bible is about prophesies,but sadly enough they are not part of the churches preaching.
    Why is it? because they dont know,and they dont want to know. Why because its preaching doom to them,and the flock only likes smooth preaching to have their ears tickled.

    The prophesies are indeed about destruction and punishment,it is indeed doom, but only to them that dont love the new world to come.They love this world,as it is.
    But to the true believers; it is time for rejoicing,not doom.

    We will see our Lord face to face,and all the old prophets,and Abraham,and live in the glorious kingdom for ever,teaching the jews; and the jew teaching the gentile nations outside the kingdom.

    There will be nations still outside, but with no power.
    Remember all technology will be no more.(bab. is no more).

    wakeup.


    Wup

    do you not think that the people of old can teach us anything ???I believe they do can ,because they will fill in what we miss and we will fill what they miss,is that not true love,

    never look at another person with a competitive spirit that is not love ,but of the world ,

    to understand scriptures is to understand God ,this is why we have to let him in our hearts and heal us from the inside out ,and only a pure heart can bring that to live :)

    #308904
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???


    edj

    why would you think it should survive ???

    is their anything what is part of this world GOOD ENOUGH TO CARRIED OVER TO GODS GIVEN NEW EARTH ???

    #308916
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,15:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,22:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,10:34)
    wup

    unless you take all of revelation into account or you will not see truth ,and do not mix it with any other book ,

    all the prophet up to Jesus were prophetizind about Christ and Jerusalem the earthly city,and some made allusion to the new city of God and the new covenant.


    Terra.

    Most of the bible is about prophesies,but sadly enough they are not part of the churches preaching.
    Why is it? because they dont know,and they dont want to know. Why because its preaching doom to them,and the flock only likes smooth preaching to have their ears tickled.

    The prophesies are indeed about destruction and punishment,it is indeed doom, but only to them that dont love the new world to come.They love this world,as it is.
    But to the true believers; it is time for rejoicing,not doom.

    We will see our Lord face to face,and all the old prophets,and Abraham,and live in the glorious kingdom for ever,teaching the jews; and the jew teaching the gentile nations outside the kingdom.

    There will be nations still outside, but with no power.
    Remember all technology will be no more.(bab. is no more).

    wakeup.


    Wup

    do you not think that the people of old can teach us anything ???I believe they do can ,because they will fill in what we miss and we will fill what they miss,is that not true love,

    never look at another person with a competitive spirit that is not love ,but of the world ,

    to understand scriptures is to understand God ,this is why we have to let him in our hearts and heal us from the inside out ,and only a pure heart can bring that to live  :)


    Terra.

    A great amen to that.

    wakeup.

    #308917
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???


    Edj.

    You seemed to be puzzled?
    Babylon will be no more after the coming.(history).
    It will be a new era.

    wakeup.

    #308928
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,15:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???


    edj

    why would you think it should survive ???

    is their anything what is part of this world GOOD ENOUGH TO CARRIED OVER TO GODS GIVEN NEW EARTH ???


    Hi Pierre,

    It's a “RE-newed” Earth – not a brand spanken new one.
    When you put on the new man – you are “RE-newed”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308930
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,17:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,15:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???


    edj

    why would you think it should survive ???

    is their anything what is part of this world GOOD ENOUGH TO CARRIED OVER TO GODS GIVEN NEW EARTH ???


    Hi Pierre,

    It's a “RE-newed” Earth – not a brand spanken new one.
    When you put on the new man – you are “RE-newed”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and
    thou renewest the face of the earth.” (Psalms 104:30)

    #308932
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,00:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,15:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???


    edj

    why would you think it should survive ???

    is their anything what is part of this world GOOD ENOUGH TO CARRIED OVER TO GODS GIVEN NEW EARTH ???


    Hi Pierre,

    It's a “RE-newed” Earth – not a brand spanken new one.
    When you put on the new man – you are “RE-newed”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away,

    i KNOW IT IS THE SAME BALL ,nothing is wrong with it only men that live on it as it wrong .

    but it will be still NEW

    #308942
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,17:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2012,15:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:28)
    all technology will be no more


    ?


    ???


    edj

    why would you think it should survive ???

    is their anything what is part of this world GOOD ENOUGH TO CARRIED OVER TO GODS GIVEN NEW EARTH ???


    Hi Pierre,

    It's a “RE-newed” Earth – not a brand spanken new one.
    When you put on the new man – you are “RE-newed”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj,brother.

    After the coming,the kingdom will be set up in israel,and the system of things changed.
    After the the 1000yrs of preaching is up, then satan will be let loose to draw all the stubborn non believers to one place.
    This is the battle of gog and magog.

    They will be destroyed; then the 2nd resurrection,consisting of all men past present and future,all will be resurrected in the flesh for the great white throne judgement.They will be judged by the books.

    Then all the goats and satan and his angels will be cast in the fire.

    Now comes the physical earth and the heavens will be melted
    down to create a new heaven and a new earth.
    Then this prophesy will be fulfilled. THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IN HEAVEN. Earth will be as heaven.

    wakeup.

    #308947
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    The bible doesn't say any of that.
    The 'rudiments' are what gets burned up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308957
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,18:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The bible doesn't say any of that.
    The 'rudiments' are what gets burned up.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Maybe this is not in your bible.
    2 pet 3:10. —-In which the heavens shall pass away,with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP.

    Its is as clear as anything.

    Once this is done,there will be no more sea,its obvious,because the water will evaporate in to space.
    Earth will look as heaven is.

    wakeup.

    #309037
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,18:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The bible doesn't say any of that.
    The 'rudiments' are what gets burned up.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    Maybe this is not in your bible.
    2 pet 3:10. —-In which the heavens shall pass away,with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP.

    Its is as clear as anything.

    Once this is done,there will be no more sea,its obvious,because the water will evaporate in to space.
    Earth will look as heaven is.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    This is precisely why YHVH has brought YOU here to study!
    The works that are therein are the rudiments.

    This is the same Greek word as where it says elements in 2Pt.3:10.

    Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #309038
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,11:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,18:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The bible doesn't say any of that.
    The 'rudiments' are what gets burned up.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    Maybe this is not in your bible.
    2 pet 3:10. —-In which the heavens shall pass away,with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP.

    Its is as clear as anything.

    Once this is done,there will be no more sea,its obvious,because the water will evaporate in to space.
    Earth will look as heaven is.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    This is precisely why YHVH has brought YOU here to study!
    The works that are therein are the rudiments.

    This is the same Greek word as where it says elements in 2Pt.3:10.

    Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Wakeup,

    All Scripture is in harmony; one verse does not cancel another.
    How long has the Earth been established for?      <– please answer
    “the earth which he hath established for ever” (Psalms 78:69)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #309040
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,18:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,18:48)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The bible doesn't say any of that.
    The 'rudiments' are what gets burned up.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    Maybe this is not in your bible.
    2 pet 3:10. —-In which the heavens shall pass away,with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP.

    Its is as clear as anything.

    Once this is done,there will be no more sea,its obvious,because the water will evaporate in to space.
    Earth will look as heaven is.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    This is precisely why YHVH has brought YOU here to study!
    The works that are therein are the rudiments.

    This is the same Greek word as where it says elements in 2Pt.3:10.

    Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
    after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    do you not feel that you talking about two different things ???

    #309042
    Ed J
    Participant

    No

                         “be renewed in the spirit of your mind;” (Eph 4:23)

    “Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
    But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again
    to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?”              (Gal 4:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #309082
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,19:33)
    No

                         “be renewed in the spirit of your mind;” (Eph 4:23)

    “Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
    But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again
    to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?”              (Gal 4:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    yes
    you do but you do not see it ,in your scriptures Paul talks about the the rudiments.of live,NOT OF THE NEW EARTH ,THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS,

    THE NEW MAN IS TO ABANDON THE RUDIMENTS IN THIS LIVE BY DOING GODS WILL,

    BY ON THE OTHER HAND GOD THROUGH CHRIST IS PREPARING TO RENEW THE EARTH BY DESTROYING THE OPPOSED TO GOD S WILL AND ALSO DESTROY THEIR WORKS ,WERE THEIR WILL BE NO NEED FOR IN GODS ARRANGEMENT THE NEW EARTH AND HEAVEN WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE RULE OF LOVE ,IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS AND HOW IT WORKS

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