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Hi Gene
You cannot understand Revelation 11 before going through Daniel 7; 8; 9; etc then after compare with Revelation 12 and 13 ….
You have work to do. Beg the Lord to help you
My God help Gene to understand the prophecy if it’s your will
in the name of Jesus Amen
Sincerity is not enough, you need LIGHT on the TRUTHProclaimer. ….Yea really try living here and watching it happen right before your eyes. The country is not repenting, we are not changing our laws to conform to the laws of God. The reaction from God the Father will keep getting worse unless We all repent, I think it’s the time of the fall of BABYLON THE GREAT. THE FIFTH BABLONIAN WORLD RULLING ECONOMIC KINGDOM TO FALL. The Next to come will be the SIXTH world rulling kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s, for one thousand years. It’s at the door, then our Nation will repent and come under the rule of our new king, Jesus the Christ.
So there is light at the end of the tunnel. IMO.
Peaceand love to you and yours. ……….gene
I don’t believe that America is part of the Beast. The Beast rises out if the Great Sea.
If America is part of the Beast or the Harlot, then yes it should be destroyed.
Proclaimer. ….this whole world is part of the BABYLOIAN KINGDOMS, IT ALL FUNCTIONS THROUGH TRADE AND POWERFUL NATIONS all over this world , who trade with eachother but are not single minded as a single world rulling government as the past world rulling government were. The stone cut out without hands is hurling down from God, this whole economic system is crashing all around us even right now beginnings to show signs of fractures. Our American economy, due to liberal spending and personel indebtedness is on the verge of total collapse IMO.
I THINK IT’S to late even if President Trump were to somehow get reelected. We are in a real mess here, that has been generating for over forty years, but it would certanily help if we as a nation would repent and put GOD’S laws back into effect.
If we go down the whole world, will fill the effects “economically “. That is for sure.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Proclaimer. ….this whole world is part of the BABYLOIAN KINGDOMS, IT ALL FUNCTIONS THROUGH TRADE AND POWERFUL NATIONS all over this world , who trade with eachother but are not single minded as a single world rulling government as the past world rulling government were.
Hi Gene…Which world government are you referring to?
The world in scripture is the land around The Great Sea which is the Medditerean. For example, the Roman Empire trampled the whole world.
This is what he said: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on the earth, different from all the other kingdoms, and it will devour the whole earth, trample it down, and crush it.
Did the Roman Empire conquer China?
Berean……the last of the Babyloian kingdoms are the ten toes of iron and clay, Daniel explains it, theses are nations strong as iron (milataraly ) but do not operate as one single nation , government, because they don’t agree with each other on how to rule, “exactly” as it is today. Dan 2: 41-44.
We are in that time period, the next Kingdom on this earth is the 6th kingdom of Jesus christ and the Saint’s. Read Rev 17: 10, shows the time line. The one that is there is the Sixth kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s, and the seventh Bablonian empire is the kingdom that rises for a short time 3 1/2 years, after the millennial regin,
You can’t understand any of this unless you understand JOHN was “transported in time to the Sixth kingdom and was speaking from that stand point , that is why it says in Rev 17: 9. . ….”and here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains (risings) on which the women (Babylon ) sits.” And there are seven kings or kingdoms five are fallen (1 Babyloian, 2 Medo- Pershian, 3, GREEK, 4, Roman, 5, present age, “and one is mentioned there is the ” 6 th, kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s, “and the one that is not yet come” , is the 7th, the rebirth of the Babyloian kingdom, the deadly wound inflicted on it at the beginning of the 6 Kingdom period of Jesus and the Saint’s, is heald, and Satan is released from the bottomless pit, where he was held captive for 1000 years and goes out to decieve the nations and brings then ware against Jesus and the Saint’s. Then GOD the Fathers comes and takes over everything at the end.
Berean the key to beginning to understand all of this is to realize JOHN was “transported in time to, the“day of the lord” in fact, to the very end of thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saint’s.
Try looking at it that way and see how things fall together. Most thing they say that is going to happen befor Jesus returns actually happens after the thousand year reign, just befor GOD the Father returns. Hoped this helped.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene
Thank you Gene, but I wasn’t asking to give me a topo of your views but just what you were referring to when you talk about the last one World gouvernment.
Berean……sorry that would be the one we are in now, the toes of iron and clay, the 5th kingdom mentioned by DANIEL 2.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
@ Proclaimer
“Did the Roman Empire conquer China?”
It’s happening, because the prophetic word cannot lie
reference Daniel 2; 7; 8; 11 and Revelation 12; 13; 14; 17. among others.
The fourth animal of Daniel 7 has an extension until the present day.the little horn of chap. 7 of Daniel
is the power described in chapter 13 of RevelationDaniel 7
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. ( 1260 years)Rev.13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (1260 years)[6] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations[8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
This verse foretells a worldwide religious movement. The last issue will be over worship.
Daniel described 4 beasts, but John saw the same four plus others. The first six are done and dusted.
they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. “The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.
Hi Proclaimer
Do you agree that the horn (which comes after the 10 horns of the fourth animal in Daniel 7: 23-27) is the same power described in Revelation 13: 1-10.
Both reign 1260 years.Berean. ……Rev 12: 14 says time and times and a half time…… it adds like this
Time=………….1 yr
Times= ………..2 yrs
Half Time= …1/2 year
That a total of 3 1/2 years…….this takes place at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saint’s, they are protected from the serpent , Satan. All this takes place at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saint’s.
I believe all of Rev 13: 1-18, takes place after the millennial regin of Jesus and the Saint’s on this earth? That maybe why no one has figured out the number of the Beast yet, because it hasn’t appeared yet, but it will be tied to the world economy. AS THEY CAN’T BY OR SALE , WITHOUT HAVING IT, IT SAYS.
The key is what I said, you, must understand that You must realize the time line, John was speaking from, it is at the end of the Sixth, world ruling empire, of Jesus and the Saint’s, or you simply can not put The time of the events Taking place right.
The idea of those those thing taking place during the time of the Fourth “Roman”, or ruling Babylonian kingdom is wrong . It all takes place after the Sixth world rulling kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s. Right toward the end , when God the Father returns to this earth, and brings about the final destruction and destorys the Seventh and eighth kingdom powers by fire, when they surround Jesus and the Saint’s at Jerusalem and Satan is cast into the lake of fire, and Jesus turns his whole Kingdom over to the Father. And then , God the Father is king over all the earth, and rules forever , then will be fulfilled the words, “thy kingdom come, thy “will” be done, in earth as in heaven”. Amen.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Proclaimer…..The one that “is”, Sets the time line, John was speaking from the time of the day of the Lord Jesus, which is the “SIXTH” , ruling kingdom on earth. , the next to follow would be the Seventh, which is a restoration of the fifth Bablonian kingdoms, we are now in the time of the FIFTH BABYLONIAN world ruling kingdom. The next to come is the SIXTH kingdom on this earth, of Jesus and the Saint’s. That is the kingdom John was speaking from, WHEN HE MENTIONED THE ONE THAT “IS”. He was not talking about the one that existed at the time he was given the prophesy. That is why there are so many false prophesies out there, because they think he was prohesying from the time he was given the Revelation. He was not he was transported in time to the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s, the sixth kingdom period that was the one that “IS” . He was speaking about, and from that time line.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Gene
ONE PROPHETIC TIME = ONE PROPHETIC YEAR (360 PROPHETIC DAYS)
AND ONE PROPHECY DAY = ONE LITERAL YEAR OF 360 LITERAL DAYSSO A PROPHETIC TIME. = 360 LITERAL YEARS
TIMES = 360X2 = 720 LITERALS YEARS
HALF TIME = 360: 2 = 180 LITERAL YEARS
SO …. 360+ 720 + 180 = 1260 littérals years
We find these 1260 years in Daniel 7:25
Daniel 12: 7
Revelation 11: 2
Revelation 12: 6.14
Revelation 13: 5Hi guys.
As you can see. The last group of posts were moved from the Was Trump chosen by God? topic.
I hope you don’t mind too much. It makes both topics better IMO. It tidies things up and allows others reading here to see conversations related to the topic headings. Remember that people search on a topic and it is good if the conversation is related to their search.
Proclaimer. …..I have tried to start a topic but don’t seem to be able to, has this changed sense before?
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
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