Revelation 17:9-11 explained

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  • #850014
    Ed J
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    Rev.13. And there was given to him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given to him to continue for forty-two months.

    Hi Berean,

    Can we agree that 42 months of Prophecy equals 1,260 Years.

    Yes or No ?

    #850016
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8……you missed the part where it says “and one IS”  the one that “IS’ is the SIXTH KINGDOM ON THIS EARTH,   You have to understand the seventh and eighth  were yet to come.  And if you apply  what Daniel said corectly, you would understand there are Six kingdoms given in what he told Neburchnasser,  If five were fallen and one “IS”, ask your self what did Daniel say about it, it was the kingdom which hit thefeet of Iron and clay which comes from heaven,  that is the Sixth  kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s.  Then at the end of that time period the “seventh” and eight will appear.  THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH takes  place at the end of the millennium, that will be the seventh and eight world ruling kingdom,  it only lasts for 3 1/2 years, then comes God the Father to this earth and destroys the seventh,  and Satan who was released from the bottomless pit 3 1/2 years before,  Will be  taken captive and go into Predition,  Jesus handed  his kingdom over to God the Father. Then the final judgement takes place when all who ever lived are judged.  

    You must put The sixth kingdom into the time frame of what John was saying, in order to get a right understanding of the correct timeline.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

     

    #850018
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Berean. …..42 months equals 3 1/2 years, fits what Rev 17 says. It does not mean a 1260 years, equals to  42 months and ,  if you are going by the, 1 day equals a thousand years principle it would equal to 1, 260, 000 years that hardly fits anything.  No scripture says as far as I know that 42 months equals 1260 days that is what you have added to the text.

    I personal  don’t care who you quote,  that doesn’t make it right, long quotes from other false prophets doesn’t make anything right IMO.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #850019
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    T8……you missed the part where it says “and one IS”  the one that “IS’ is the SIXTH KINGDOM ON THIS EARTH,

    Absolutely didn’t miss it. You missed what I said.

    Rome was the kingdom that is when the prophecy was given.

    Rome is the sixth head.

    #850020
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8……Wrong just count the Kingdoms mentioned by Daniel to Neburchnasser  he only mentioned six, count the parts he listed and you will have fixed and the Sixth is the kingdom that struck the image on the feet , that is the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s  it will strick the image on it’s feet,  of Iron and Clay which is the fifth Babyloian type rulling kingdom on this earth. We are in that kingdom right now.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #850021
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Wrong assumptions once again gene. This topic is called ‘Revelation 17:9-11’. That scripture gives us the whole picture. Seven kings / kingdoms with a mysterious eighth coming from the seventh or seven.

    This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

    Rev 12:3-4
    Then another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems.

    Daniel saw the part that was relevant to Nebuchadnezzar, so he isn’t shown anything before him and isn’t given anything about the eighth also.

    Try to be focused or fully read posts before letting your mouth go unguarded. It would save a lot of time because we wouldn’t have to repeat what we have already said. It just makes you look silly when you blurt out statements that have already been answered, and in my previous two post here too. Not a good look.

    I know you don’t believe in free will, but please choose to be a better listener before responding. Do I hear an amen?

    #850022
    Berean
    Participant

    Can we agree that 42 months of Prophecy equals 1,260 Years.

    Yes or No ?

    Ed j

    Yes 42 prophetic months equivalent
    to 1260 real years.
    1 month=30 days=30 years
    30 years X 42 = 1260 years

    #850023
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Berean, Ok then.

    (1John 5:9) “If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater:
    “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed” (2 Peter 1:19)

    Rev 13:4-5 Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth
    speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    The Beast (islam) took over the holy land when the ‘abomination of desolation’ was set up in 688 AD and his rule
    (over the holy land) ended when Israel took back over the holy land in 1948, which is exactly what happened!

    688 + 1,260 years (of ruling the holy land) = 1948

    Please don’t scoff at God’s more sure word of Prophecy Berean

    #850024
    Ed J
    Participant

    This is also confirmed by these following Prophecies:

    But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation (dome of the rock 688ad) , spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
    standing where it ought not (on the temple Mount in Jerusalem), (let him that readeth understand,)
    then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:” (Mark 13:14)

    Mountains in biblical terminology is nations. How long do they flee? The answer is in Rev. 12:6:

    “And the woman (Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God,
    that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days” (Rev 12:6) same formula…

    688 + 1,260 day/years = 1948

    Confirmed in the following verse…

    “Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once?
    for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.” (Isaiah 66:8)

    Please don’t scoff at God’s more sure word of Prophecy Berean

    #850025
    Ed J
    Participant

    The evidence I have forms a complete picture T8, leaving no-doubt

    islam is ‘the spirit of antichrist’ which God foreknew and warned us about

    This is NOT the only evidence I have to show on this either, I have a lot more!

    #850026
    Ed J
    Participant

    Like I said previously from the dome of the rock in Jerusalem…
    to the kaaba in Mecca is 666 nautical miles. Lining up perfectly with:

    “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of (miles to) the beast: for
    it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (nautical miles).” (Rev 13:18)

    #850027
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Good Ed J.

    I’m keen to see it.

    #850028
    Berean
    Participant

    Ed j

    Rev.22.18,19

    For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    [19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    #850029
    Berean
    Participant

    Ed j

    You’re a long way from the truth
    with regard to this prophecy of Rev.13

    The head of the beast in question has reigned
    mainly in Europe with the support of the crowned kings (the 10 horns) from 538 to 1798 AD
    which is not the case with Islam

    The ISLAM in the time of the Saracens (630-780 AD), like locusts(Rev.9) swarmed out of the Arabian desert, afflicting and conquering Persia, Syria, Egypt, North Africa and part of Spain. Islam even entered France with the intention of conquering all of Europe, but was stopped at the battle of Tours (Poitiers) in 732. If Islam had won, Europe and the United States would probably be Islamic by now!
    And yes the head of the beast of Rev.13 that was wounded is not Islam (empire
    Ottoman)
    The Ottoman Empire as a political power never reigned…
    militarily and politically 1260 years old.
    The best way to understand
    ISLAM according to the Bible is to go to chapter 9 of Revelation.

     

    #850030
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8…..you couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried,  Daniel spoke of six kingdoms and I have clearly listed them, there is no way around that. You are not staying with what scriptures clearly show,  what you call the mind that has wisdom is just takes no wisdom of anykind, because you and others fail to understand it.

    Can you count?,  DANIEL lists six of the kingdoms on the earth and the Sixth is the kingdom of Jesus Christ , has that happens yet? NO,  it hasn’t so the seventh has not either,  Your jamming the seven  kingdoms will eliminate the Sixth. In you time line.

    What I wrote is accurate T8 rather you believe it or not.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

     

    #850031
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj……the abomination of deselation, has already occured in 70 AD. at that time the sacrifices were taken away, and the Temple of God was DESTROYED, and the end of PROPHESIES TOOK PLACE.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #850032
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj……ANTI-CHRIST’S …….WE’RE ALIVE WAY BEFORE THERE WEREN’T ANY MOSLIM’S ON THIS EARTH. Antichrist is not a person it’s a belife about the anointing of Jesus, that the Gnostic’s taught in the early Church at the time of John and Paul.  So your wrong again Edj.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #850033
    Berean
    Participant

    Gene
    You write to me:

    “42 months = 3 and a half years, corresponds to what Rev 17 says.”
    It does not mean a 1260 years, equals to 42 months and , if you are going by the, 1 day equals a thousand years principle it would equal to 1, 260, 000 years that hardly fits anything. No scripture says as far as I know that 42 months equals 1260 days that is what you have added to the text.

    1 ) As for the day/year principle

    You still don’t understand the thing

    A PROPHETIC DAY = A YEAR
    REAL
    “And there was given to him a mouth speaking arrogant words and blasphemies, and power was given to him to continue for forty-two months.”

    Forty-two prophetic months
    are worth 1260 real years (from360
    Days)

    It is the time of papal supremacy 538 – 1798

    1 2 6 0 YEARS

    6 TIMES WE FIND 1260

    1- DANIEL 7
    2-DANIEL 12
    3-REV.11
    4- REV.12 ( 2 TIMES )
    5- REV.13

    42 prophetic months = 3 1/2 prophetic years

    These are of course months of 30 days
    and years of 360 days

    So three and a half years = ?

    3 X 360 = 1080

    1/2 year = 360÷2 =180

    Total
    1080+ 180= 1260

    #850034
    Ed J
    Participant

    It is the time of papal supremacy 538 – 1798

    Hi Berean,

    Why do you pick the arbitrary number of 1798?

    …you do know, the Papacy continued after that date ???
    seems to me you only pick it because it fits your narrative
    so please explain for me WHY you believe 1798 is significant?

    To m,e it is like the JW’s picking 1914 as being significant, because it fits their narrative.

    Gene also appears to be doing the same thing.

    What say you T8?

    #850035
    Ed J
    Participant

    Good Ed J.

    I’m keen to see it.

    Hi T8,

    You’re beginning to see it lines up every way to sundown

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