Revelation

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
No muddying of the waters but clarification for those who have followed men.

To you the words of Peter in acts 2.38-39 are not true?
The evidence of the WAY shown in Acts is also untrue?
Then whom are you following?

Even the master was reborn of water and the Spirit at the Jordan

[NickHassan]

Hi 4t,
The letters written by the apostles were to those who had entered the kingdom not to those who had just heard about it.

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2014,12:19)

Hi J42, No muddying of the waters but clarification for those who have followed men. To you the words of Peter in acts 2.38-39 are not true? The evidence of the WAY shown in Acts is also untrue? Then whom are you following? Even the master was reborn of water and the Spirit at the Jordan

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Nick,
Did I say those verses are not true?
Every word in scripture is true.
Those verses back up what I am saying.

Jesus was not reborn at the Jordon,
I showed you that the spirit that descended upon him was a sign for John that he was the Christ.
Jesus was pure from birth, never with sin, needing to change,
but an example to us.

What do you mean who am I following?
and clarification of what?
can you please elaborate.

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
So should all men repent and be baptised in water and the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus?

[4Thomas]

Hi Nick,

OK you have a different way of getting your point across but I think I understand what you are trying to say.

But lets understand that the gospel is only false if it is said that you ONLY need to accept *alone* in Jesus as your Lord.

I did not say this! Accept of Jesus as Lord reveals that one has the holy spirit and is what scripture teaches.

Acceptance **alone** is just like the false gospel for faith alone.

The only way to be sure that you are born of God is to truly Love the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The first and greatest commandment.

1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written: “What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived” — the things God has prepared for those who love him—

For those who have faith in him or love him?

If you want the crown of Life – Love *the* Lord

James 1:12
Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

Lots of people think they know God and are born of God.
Yet scripture teaches that it is by Love that we are born of God.

1 John 4:7-8
Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

God lives in us when we truly Love

1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

1 John 3:10
This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God's child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

2 John 1:6
And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

There are plenty of Liars out there who say they know God

1 John 2:4
4Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him:

John 14:15
“If you love me, keep my commands.

Not the law in stone but in the heart, true agape.

Owe no-one anything except to Love them

I want everyone to Love Jesus THE Son with all their Heart Soul and Mind for he is THE Lord our God. He is FROM and OF the Fathers substance and he alone can provide access to the Father.

Life in the Son and in his name
Daniel

[NickHassan]

Hi 4t,
Obeying the Lord is imperative
You must be born again

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2014,18:02)

Hi 4t, Obeying the Lord is imperative You must be born again

Nick.

Can you answer each of these questions?
And elaborate.

1.How can you know, you are truly born again?

2.Are there not millions claiming they are all born again?

3.Are they all spirit?
John 3:6 That which is born of the *flesh is flesh*; and
that which is born of the Spirit **IS SPIRIT**.

4.Is water spirit?

5.Is flesh not water?

6.What does it mean born **OF THE SPIRIT**?

7.Was Jesus born again at Jordan? Did he receive repentance
at jordan?

8.Was the thief baptised and born again?

9.Can you be born **OF THE SPIRIT BEFORE THE
RESURRECTION**?

10.Are you now spirit, before the resurrection?

IF SO: Then you dont need a resurrection.
For you are already quickened.
You have inherited all things.You dont need to study.
You have made it.You have put on a celestial body.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Simple obedience is favoured by God rather than complex rationalisations.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,03:53)

Hi WU, Simple obedience is favoured by God rather than complex rationalisations.

Nick.

Blind obedience,with no solid foundation,will lead to error.
You need rock foundation,not sand.

Can you answer each my questions,so we all can learn.
Refute my words where I have gone wrong,or your doctrine
is not foolproof.
Cover the holes in my doctrine,if there are any holes.
Can you do that?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Can you not hear the call of God in the words of Peter at pentecost?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,04:46)

Hi WU, Can you not hear the call of God in the words of Peter at pentecost?

Nick.

I can see that you have not got the rock
foundation to refute my statements.

This means that you are still a leaf blowing in the wind
of doctrine.

Pantecost was Jesus promise to his brethren fulfilled.
For they have received the doctrine.
Many here have not received that doctrine fully.
Still wavering and being blown by all sorts of doctrines.
Have not found the harmony in all the scriptures, and prophesies.

Wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Seek ye FIRST the kingdom

God teaches those who are set on the foundation.

Understanding first is a delusion

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,06:26)

Hi WU, Seek ye FIRST the kingdom God teaches those who are set on the foundation. Understanding first is a delusion

Nick.

You have things back to front.

First you SEEK the kingdom;and then you will FIND.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
??

The house built on rock will not fall.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,08:01)

Hi WU, ?? The house built on rock will not fall.

Nick

I could not agree more.
There is a great storm coming ahead,we need to buckle up.
Put on your seat belts.

This will be a very great test of faith for all christians.
Imagin seeing your children hungry with no food,and crying.
The temptation will be: Take the number or not.
It would be easier to take it, if the foundation is on sand.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
The rock is my teachings
One of them is you must be born again

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,08:20)

Hi WU, The rock is my teachings One of them is you must be born again

Nick.

You must be born again **to inherit the kingdom**.
Is the kingdom yours now?
Are you secured?
Can not sin anymore?
Millions like you believe in this,yet they have gone astray.
And you are not spirit. Are you?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
cannot sin?
Have you not been reading my posts?

[4Thomas]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2014,18:02)

Hi 4t, Obeying the Lord is imperative You must be born again

Hi Nick,
Yes but you are born of God when you truly have Agape, true Love

1 John 4:7-8
Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Are you born again?
Do you Love the Lord Jesus with all your heart Soul and mind?

The one who keeps Jesus commands *is* the one who Loves Jesus the Lord.

John 14:21
Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

Scripture teaches above that if you truly Love Jesus he will Love you.

If you Love Jesus above your neighbor and yourself, then you will obey Jesus teachings and THE Father will Love you and BOTH **the** Father and **the** Son will Live in you in the one Spirit.

John 14:23
Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

The old commandments have been done away with because they looked at the actions and not the heart.

Jeremiah 31:33
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

2 Corinthians 3:3
You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Nick God is Love and unless you are united with him in this Love you are not born again.

Yes earnestly desire the higher gifts BUT remember the More excellent way is Agape which far succeeds faith and hope and Works

1 Corinthians 12:
31But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.

Life in the Son and in his name
Daniel

[NickHassan]

Hi T4,
Exactly
You MUST be born again-of water and the Spirit.

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