Resurrection day

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Resurrection day:

Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

Mar 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, bought spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not amazed: ye seek Jesus, the Nazarene, who hath been crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold, the place where they laid him!

Luk 24:1 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came unto the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared.
Luk 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

Joh 20:1 Now on the first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, while it was yet dark, unto the tomb, and seeth the stone taken away from the tomb.

In each account of the gospels the tomb is found empty on the first day of the week.

If Jesus was raised on the Sabbath what did HE do? Just hang around and wait for the empty tomb to be discovered?

Scripture says He preached to spirits in prison.

1Pe 3:18, 19 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, “being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison”;

The Lord's day:

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet

Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

The Lord's day in mentioned only once in the whole of the bible.
John was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, there's no mention of any paticular day of the week. What happened on this day of the Lord? In Revelation Jesus by His angel tells John the things which must happened before the end. John was taken into the future where he was shown the great and notable day of the Lord.
Where does the Lord's day refer to the day He was resurrected?

Zep 1:14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

Joe 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come

Have we been fooled once again by Satan and his Harlot into keeping Sunday instead of the Sabbath. Then keeping with that tradition Easter Sunday the pagan day of the Sun. The Lord's day is the great and terrible day of the Lord not His resurrection day.

I H L,

Ken

February 20, 2007 at 9:48 pm#42553

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Hi kenrch,
The day of the Lord can be the day of his return or the 1000 yr reign.

February 20, 2007 at 10:16 pm#42555

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2007,21:48)

Hi kenrch,
The day of the Lord can be the day of his return or the 1000 yr reign.

Hi Nick,

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. The Lord's day in Revelation is speaking of the great and terrible “day of the Lord” Or as you say when He comes back. Their is no Lord's day as to pointing to which day He was resurrected. Just another lie.

People believe that the Lord's day is a particular day (Sunday) which I see no scriptural evidence to back that opinion up with. Do you?

February 20, 2007 at 10:46 pm#42557

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Hi kenrch,
All days are a sabbath for us.
None can make rules about the sabbath.

Acts 20B 7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

8And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.
ut the disciples did meet on a certain day.”

Col 2
' 16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:'

February 20, 2007 at 11:12 pm#42558

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Kiss the sun and he will shine for you

Resurrection of Life Elijah resurrection of life sent
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

John is sent born again into this world
Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

John is raised from the dead to bring the everlasting gospel
Mat 14:2 And said unto his servants, This is John the Baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.

John announces that Jesus preexistence
Jhn 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Jesus announces his preexistence will not be recognized as Johns and the will put him to death also
Mat 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
Mat 17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Jesus preexistence before been sent by God into the world being before that of John’s preexistence as Elijah; for they were not silent to hear what the prophets and fathers has been given for us to believe on the first resurrection

Isa 41:1 ¶ Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew [their] strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment. Isa 41:2 Who raised up the righteous [man] from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made [him] rule over kings? he gave [them] as the dust to his sword, [and] as driven stubble to his bow.

Those that new what the prophets had said about resurrection of life and being sent born of God expected a baby

Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Mat 2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

The baby grew up in the stall and waxed strong; as also did the resurrection of life born again Elijah with a new name John
Luk 1:80 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.

A Man child born of a woman resurrection of life by being born again sent of God not man a mirricle that never happened or seen on earth as the prophet Danal explains in his vision
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

And they kill the man of the east that God had sent as born again New Life was in him and been given him by God
Act 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

And we follow being born again waxing strong and awakening to the knowledge of the truth when old enough to understand
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

The cross and his resurrection a second resurrection; a place of hot Furness a lake of fire to place the resurrection of Life by not believing on whom God sent into the world as the first begotten Son born of a woman.
A resurrection for those that accepted not the birth of a baby born again; leaving us in our sins
And leaving us to imagine a latter resurrection for we missed the born of God resurrection that Elijah AND Jesus were first sent to signify the beginning of the New creation rising the old to judgment Days according to their hearts loving the truth they shall fall; still sleeping un awaken the to righteousness and knowledge of the truth

Hbr 4:1 ¶ Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Hbr 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].
Hbr 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hbr 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. Hbr 4:5 And in this [place] again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Hbr 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

charity

February 21, 2007 at 12:23 am#42564

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2007,22:46)

Hi kenrch,
All days are a sabbath for us.
None can make rules about the sabbath.

Acts 20B 7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

8And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.
ut the disciples did meet on a certain day.”

Col 2
' 16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:'

1Co 16:1 Now concerning the “collection for the saints”, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

Why were they gathered on the first day?

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, “the Gentiles” besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

Gentiles the next what?

Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

They gathered the first day to break bread.

Truth is they all lived together and gathered everyday to break bread.

Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, “and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart”,

Just what does food, months, drink, holydays and ANNUAL SabbathS have to do with the Ten Commandments. Please explain.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Now what was nailed to the cross? Was it the Ten commandments? It was ordnances, sacrifical ritual laws of Moses. The law that Jesus fulfilled.

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

The Ten Commandments are only for the Jews? We I mean you (for I am a spiritual Jew) gentiles (heathens) can murder steal lie, with no penalty, no wonder the world is what it is.

If you break one Commandment then you have broken them all.
Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jam 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

What is sin Nick? You do sin don't you? When you sin Nick then you are under the law, being a TRANGRESSOR of the Ten commandment law of God.

1Jo 3:4 Every one that doeth sin doeth also lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.

Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

True we have no sin because we are forgiven upon repentance . But if you continually murder is it sin?

Is grace a licence to sin?

I have yet to find anyone who can prove that the Sabbath or any of the Ten Commandments were done away with. People don't mind keeping the other nine but the one that says God is creator and is my God and says to REMEMBER they fight NOT to keep why?
For one thing it simply doesn't make sense and the other is that the Catholic's have admitted changing the Law. The Catholic's will tell you there is no scriptural reason to NOT observe the Sabbath. If you break the law and teach others to do so then you will be the least in the kingdom of God.

The Papcy changed the law as scripture said he would Dan. 7:25.

Mar 7:7 But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.
Mar 7:8 Ye leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.

The tradition of Catholics!

You keep to your traditions I'll keep the Commandments of God (Rev. 12:17).

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Only for the Jews? Then only the Jews will be great in the kingdom.

I H L,

Ken

February 21, 2007 at 12:28 am#42565

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The cross shows forth the lake of fire
Shall we believe in faith unto the lake of fire that Jesus WAS THE FIRST EXPOSED TO?
Having no power over him that he should see not a second death and rise again
That the sinner would push God towards only believing if he should rise again after they took his life

Instead of believing on the one that had been elected and sent BORN A CHILD AND his soul to be made and offering for the un believing without faith
God has not taken his own soul from prison and judgment
Check the preexistence of one elected as the holy one of Israel WHO HAS SEED TO SEE
Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, *and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.*

God dose not need to prolong his own Life?

Even the demons know this? the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Mar 5:7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, what have I to do with thee, Jesus, [thou] Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

February 21, 2007 at 7:43 am#42589

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Hi charity,
The lake of fire was not in hades. Hades ends up in that lake of fire but it is not used till shown in the end of Revelation.

February 21, 2007 at 4:10 pm#42603

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Thanks again David!

“The retention of the old Pagan name of ‘Dies Solis,’ or ‘Sunday,’ for the weekly Christian festival, is, in great measure, owing to the union of Pagan and [so-called] Christian sentiment with which the first day of the week was recommended by Constantine [in an edict in 321 C.E.] to his subjects, Pagan and Christian alike, as the ‘venerable day of the Sun.’ . . . It was his mode of harmonizing the discordant religions of the Empire under one common institution.”—Lectures on the History of the Eastern Church (New York, 1871), A. P. Stanley, p. 291.

There is origins of your Sunday. It wasn't until 321 AD …ummm wonder what day they kept until the Pope changed it?

Nick you don't keep everyday as a Sabbath, do you?

February 21, 2007 at 5:46 pm#42604

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Hi kenrch,
What is the christian meaning of the sabbath?

February 21, 2007 at 8:23 pm#42608

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2007,07:43)

Hi charity,
The lake of fire was not in hades. Hades ends up in that lake of fire but it is not used till shown in the end of Revelation.

Hi Nick

What is Hades?

God has reedemned the man from the east; risen him up born again; and they nailed him to the cross suffering a second death
That he could not beholden to the power of death

God has redeemed the whole of his creation that was cursed to the dust; both wicked and righteous; he has not promised to remove them out of our way; but they shall be ashes under our feet.
In Second death
He has risen all to an earth that burns as an hot oven; some to shame and destruction some to everlasting life.
The prison door opened; the branches that do not stay attached are gathered and thrown in the fire

Sabbath of rest;
Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
Mal 4:1
¶For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Mal 4:2
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

Mal 4:3
And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do [this], saith the LORD of hosts.

Mal 4:4
Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the statutes and judgments.

Mal 4:5
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

The fathers and prophets who have the Instructions we are all children of God to be predestinated and be transformed
Mal 4:6
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

February 21, 2007 at 8:46 pm#42609

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Hi charity,
You ask
“What is Hades?”
Lk 16. 19f
Rev 20.14

February 21, 2007 at 8:52 pm#42611

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Hi c,
You say
“God has reedemned the man from the east; risen him up born again; and they nailed him to the cross suffering a second death
That he could not beholden to the power of death”
The Son of man died once that men not die twice.

Heb 9
” 24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

February 21, 2007 at 9:38 pm#42618

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Hi Nick
28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

So if we do not find two comings before our second death the theif has consumed us.

We have no choice but to have him come for us and be co inheritors of God in the life given

God is not a denomination thinker
Where by he dose things in groups
Each of us is responsible to put on Incorruption; the harvest is one by one not by groups at church on a man made sabbath day

February 21, 2007 at 9:42 pm#42619

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Hi c,
We die once.
We are resurrected either into the millenial reign with Christ or to face the judgement of all.
If we only find ourselves in the second resurrection then mercy will only be accorded us to be his sheep as we have shown to those in Christ as written in Matt 25.
Without finding that mercy, we expect to find the second death.

February 21, 2007 at 10:47 pm#42621

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2007,17:46)

Hi kenrch,
What is the christian meaning of the sabbath?

Don't you know you keep the Sabbath everyday. Rest and fellowship Nick. How do I keep the Sabbath? I keep it the way it was intended Rest from daily rountine and worship ALL day. Being in the Lord's presence which is why Jesus died.

But don't worry Nick you will still make it though you will be among the least, at least that's what scripture says.

Oh but wait that's for Jews! What other scripture do you pick and choose which are and which aren't?

History itself tells us who changed the Sabbath And when.

You keep to your tradition Nick. I'll keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus.

Mar 7:7 But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.
Mar 7:8 Ye leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon waxed wroth with the woman, and went away to make war with the rest of her seed, that keep the commandments of God, and hold the testimony of Jesus:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments.

It's just that simple!

Enough said.

I H L,

Ken

February 22, 2007 at 12:58 am#42628

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2007,21:42)

sweat blood that you are right Nick?
For the time then will not be POSSIBLE to turning bacK?

For we are to follow christ

When this written Hosea did not know the Name that David would have when he was resurrected in the future
He knew it would be David returning; and David had gone to corruption laid in the grave and announced as to come.

Hsa 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Paul will now say this
Act 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

Act 13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
Act 13:37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.
Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men [and] brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Act 13:40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

Prophey to The house of David past and perished and blessed
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 ¶ And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.
Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

February 22, 2007 at 1:10 am#42630

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Hi charity,
David does not return in any different way from you and I but he is a type of Christ.
We can and should know that we have the waters unto eternal life and those who do are raised in the first resurrection.

February 22, 2007 at 1:23 am#42632

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 22 2007,01:10)

1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

Our Mothers womb as a grave; born again
Jer 20:17 Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb [to be] always great [with me].
Jer 20:18 Wherefore came I forth out of the womb to see labour and sorrow, that my days should be consumed with shame?

February 22, 2007 at 1:34 am#42635