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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,04:53) hi KW
to me you can not love someone you don't know.
so the only way to know God and the one he has send us is by reading the bible,and it is trough the love of his word that you start to love him ,because his words are going strait to your heart deepest feeling siege.
so if you don't have the scriptures to teach you you can not know the will of God and the one he as send.
now the spirit of God can act on you to give you understanding.
I admit the bible is a useful tool but God glory is clearly visible to those that have eyes even outside of scripture. I read the bible but what it teaches is confirmed by what I witness everyday. Sometimes it amazes me how much I miss seeing. It is certainly possible someone can find God without ever reading the bible. It is also possible that God will choose to teach them all they know in other ways as he has done it in the pass. I admit he has chosen to use the bible to teach me much.Kerwin……> because I seek intelligent understanding of Scripture in no way means that “intelligence” is MY GOD, MY GOD does Have all intelligence and understanding there is and can give it to whom so ever he pleases. His Spirit is INTELLECT , and words are the (EXPRESSION) of that INTELLECT as Jesus Plainly said. You seem to be on a constant quest for intellect yourself, so is it your “GOD” also as you accuse me of. Nick does not understand simple Scriptures describing Spirit, spoken by Jesus himself, I do not worship INTELLECT, but i do not trash intelligence either, there is nothing wrong with intelligent understanding of GOD'S Words, to portray it that way is an error and wrong itself. Nick sits around casting people Here, like he has the ability to Judge others , but fails to judge himself, PRIDE HAS A FAR REACHING EFFECT IN PEOPLES LIVES. IMO
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2010,22:28) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,04:53) hi KW
to me you can not love someone you don't know.
so the only way to know God and the one he has send us is by reading the bible,and it is trough the love of his word that you start to love him ,because his words are going strait to your heart deepest feeling siege.
so if you don't have the scriptures to teach you you can not know the will of God and the one he as send.
now the spirit of God can act on you to give you understanding.
I admit the bible is a useful tool but God glory is clearly visible to those that have eyes even outside of scripture. I read the bible but what it teaches is confirmed by what I witness everyday. Sometimes it amazes me how much I miss seeing. It is certainly possible someone can find God without ever reading the bible. It is also possible that God will choose to teach them all they know in other ways as he has done it in the pass. I admit he has chosen to use the bible to teach me much.
Hi KW,
It is not all about us.
Scripture is not just a tool for men but essential food.
Man cannot live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.Nick……..Again a false accusation while you heart is still trying to cast me and others, Where did i (EVER) say reminding folks to abide in and rely on scripture indicates sin. When are you ever going to cease falsely accusing People. The sin here is being a false Witness as you are doing. IMO
Quote (Gene @ Jan. 03 2010,12:05) WJ……..Some Scriptures have been corrupted , that is a definite yes, But does that mean (ALL) are, NO , I have never said that or even insinuated it. Most all scriptures are excellent sources of truth of GOD, if properly understood. Now it is oblivious People do no all understand them the same, this site is absolute proof of that right. MY point to thinker was we need GOD'S SPIRIT to properly comprehend them. You know as well as i Many scriptures are written in symbolic language and Metaphors and Parables are used extensively in our Scriptures, to illustrate a spiritual principle or thought. Scripture it self says “they have eyes to see but see not, ears to hear but hear not, so to me it takes more then just words written down to properly understand them. Again this is (MY) OPINION, it does (NOT) have to be (ANYONE) ELSE'S> peace and love to you and yours………………..gene
GeneSo basically they are corrupted when they disagree with your theology.
Pick and choose right?
No Gene, you take away an credibility in arguing your points from scriptures since it can be said by those who disagree with you that the sriptures you quote are corrupt!
You are on a slippery slope if you do not believe in all of the scriptures!
WJ
NIck………if the shoe fits wear it. if not don't worry about it. When have i (BOASTED) of MY “humility”. Another (FALSE) accusation , now that is a odd concept. It is not I who judge you your own mouth does that , i am just bringing it to your attention. Seems you talk out of both sides of your mouth Nick. When have you taken on the attribute of a false accuser NICK.
Nick……..You have been dogging me ever sense i have came on this site, as well as you have many others Here, pushing your accusation off on many of us here, and you have the nerve to say you are not proud and arrogant, surely you jest. You say we say things we are not even saying of referencing, and when ask to post Scriptures to the contrary you can't, and ask to post where we have said what you falsely accuse us of you can't or post something you have taken completely out of context. Your even say we take a few Scriptures here and there to push our points but when ask to disprove them you give us not response, so it boils down to this YOU ARE HERE TO PUSH YOU FORM OF RELIGION AND NOTHING ELSE, YOU ARE NOT ON A QUEST FOR THE (TRUTH) BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL TRUTH. So you sit there taking pot shots at us. Hardly a expression of the SPIRIT of GOD. IMO and others also.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,06:46) gene
selective hearing and selective seeing well is this not corrupt thinking???
t……… WE all have selective Hearing to a point, Post it then instead of just making accusations prove what you are saying , are you becoming like Nick now and just making accusation because something disagrees with your understanding. Proof not accusation is the answer here. Nick can't disprove what is said so he starts accusing people. Don't join that group. Seek the truth and POST IT. For us all to see. IMONick……….I rely on scriptures far more then you do, and more important I understand what they are saying. What about you, how much do you understand of what you read in scriptures? Your words prove your arrogance You neither know Me nor my Heart, just mouthing off is all you seem to be good at. IMO
G,
You boast of your understanding but you add your ideas about intellect to scripture and remove truths about Satan.
So is it just a small reliance on it you have?G,
So should we rely on scripture but only according to your odd understandings?
Most seem to shy away from themHi,
Scripture has depth and life but those who prefer their own ideas reveal their empty shallowness.Nick…That is a lie i have (NEVER) told anyone not to accept scriptures. Pure hog wash. It is the understanding of them that counts, not just the words written. And i have (NEVER) BOASTED in my knowledge of GOD WORDS. Pure Garbage, from the mouth of a prideful man. Where did (I) add ideas about intellect to scripture > A WORD is the EXPRESSION of ONES INTELLECT, rather of GOD OR MAN. But the truth is Nick, you do not believe what Jesus said do you? And because i quote Jesus and say words (ARE) SPIRIT the same thing HE said YOU find fault because i describe what a WORD is (expression of INTELLECTS) SO if anyone is distorting truth is is YOU not Me NICK, Again you simply are a false accuser and serve your own pride, and i believe could care less about the truth of GOD.
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