Reconciled or still needing a mediator

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,13:35)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,11:33) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,11:00) Hi BD, Time will tell. You will meet the Master soon enough. I am not so sure the Lord of all will be thrilled you oppose his teachings and try to improve them Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. John 15:14-16 You still believe that Jesus is your Lord and so he is because you do not know what he does, I call him friend God is my LORD HIS ways are beyond knowing even to Jesus. Hi BD, Many assume a friendship with him. Some falsely claim that he is their Lord. But he says “I do not know you” “Why do you call me Lord Lord and not do as I say?” “Now those enemies of mine bring them here and slay them in my presence.”

Yes, Jesus says that who do not do the WILL of GOD as he told them they should, Jesus explained that even if you have tremendous faith in him even enough to do miracles you will not be accepted by him if you do not DO THE WILL of GOD.

Nick, Please Submit yourself to God for that is the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
The will of God is that you believe in the Son and obey him.
Following false prophets will not help that.

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Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,13:13)

Quote (942767 @ May 14 2010,13:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,11:34) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2010,11:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,10:56) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,10:51) Hi BD, Do you have srtrong faith? Strong enough? Is it based on a close friendship with the Son of God, Jesus? Yes, and even all the fellow believers.  The faith of a Mustard seed is all that is needed, simply believe, Nick Faith entails believing God's testimony regarding His Son and His Christ. Is God a Male? No. Are Fathers, Male?

God is a person. He has no Gender. You are confusing God with the functions as it relates to man. He is our heavenly Father.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:13)

Hi BD, The will of God is that you believe in the Son and obey him. Following false prophets will not help that.

If you obey the “son” then you obey the Father not the other way around that is why you call Jesus “Lord” is it because you do not know him?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You call the son a liar and then talk this pious stuff?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:21)

Hi BD, You call the son a liar and then talk this pious stuff?

Is God really someone's parent?

Is God, Male or Female that HE should beget a child.

Do you realize that the usage of the word “HE” in reference to God is not literal, is it?

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Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,10:47)

If he is the Mediator of a New Covenant then once you have agreed to that New Covenant you have been reconciled to God while you are in the flesh and if you stray you are to go to God yourself under the grace of the New Covenant that was mediated through Christ hence Jesus says 2 things that prove my point without a doubt:

Would you say that those who lived under the Old covenant, by merely accepting the Old covenant, were they free to then move on?

Only when the new came was the old fulfilled.

The new is not fulfilled as it contains the principle that we can ask God for forgiveness when we sin and we ask for all things in Jesus name because he has gone to the Father and intercedes for us.

If you want to give up or not accept that, then good luck, but I can assure you, that you will need more than luck.

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Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,14:16)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:13) Hi BD, The will of God is that you believe in the Son and obey him. Following false prophets will not help that. If you obey the “son” then you obey the Father not the other way around that is why you call Jesus “Lord” is it because you do not know him?

Are you saying that we cannot know a lord or the lord?

Most lords in the world are not like the lord of God's creation. They usually do not associate themselves with their subjects.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ May 14 2010,14:36)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,10:47) If he is the Mediator of a New Covenant then once you have agreed to that New Covenant you have been reconciled to God while you are in the flesh and if you stray you are to go to God yourself under the grace of the New Covenant that was mediated through Christ hence Jesus says 2 things that prove my point without a doubt: Would you say that those who lived under the Old covenant, by merely accepting the Old covenant, were they free to then move on? Only when the new came was the old fulfilled. The new is not fulfilled as it contains the principle that we can ask God for forgiveness when we sin and we ask for all things in Jesus name because he has gone to the Father and intercedes for us. If you want to give up or not accept that, then good luck, but I can assure you, that you will need more than luck.

T8 did you miss this very important verse?

You ask in the name of Jesus because you have not understood these verses the minute you do you will see my point.

John 16:25-27 (King James Version)

25These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

26At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

27For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

[NickHassan]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,14:34)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:21) Hi BD, You call the son a liar and then talk this pious stuff? Is God really someone's parent? Is God, Male or Female that HE should beget a child. Do you realize that the usage of the word “HE” in reference to God is not literal, is it?

Hi BD,
Like him you can be begotten from above by the Spirit.[1Peter1]
You can be a son of God.

[NickHassan]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,14:34)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:21) Hi BD, You call the son a liar and then talk this pious stuff? Is God really someone's parent? Is God, Male or Female that HE should beget a child. Do you realize that the usage of the word “HE” in reference to God is not literal, is it?

Hi BD,
Like him you can be begotten from above by the Spirit.[1Peter1]
You can be a son of God.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ May 14 2010,14:36)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,10:47) If he is the Mediator of a New Covenant then once you have agreed to that New Covenant you have been reconciled to God while you are in the flesh and if you stray you are to go to God yourself under the grace of the New Covenant that was mediated through Christ hence Jesus says 2 things that prove my point without a doubt: Would you say that those who lived under the Old covenant, by merely accepting the Old covenant, were they free to then move on? Only when the new came was the old fulfilled. The new is not fulfilled as it contains the principle that we can ask God for forgiveness when we sin and we ask for all things in Jesus name because he has gone to the Father and intercedes for us. If you want to give up or not accept that, then good luck, but I can assure you, that you will need more than luck.

T8 did you miss this very important verse?

You ask in the name of Jesus because you have not understood these verses the minute you do you will see my point.

John 16:25-27 (King James Version)

25These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

26At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

27For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Do you claim to love the Son of God?
Then why do you deny his words and appointment?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (t8 @ May 14 2010,14:39)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,14:16) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:13) Hi BD, The will of God is that you believe in the Son and obey him. Following false prophets will not help that. If you obey the “son” then you obey the Father not the other way around that is why you call Jesus “Lord” is it because you do not know him? Are you saying that we cannot know a lord or the lord? Most lords in the world are not like the lord of God's creation. They usually do not associate themselves with their subjects.

Jesus said he is not the lord over those who know him, likewise we are not to lord over each other.

The LORD GOD is ONE LORD.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
He is Lord of all.[Acts 10.36]
But only those who serve him will be recognised.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:43)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,14:34) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,14:21) Hi BD, You call the son a liar and then talk this pious stuff? Is God really someone's parent? Is God, Male or Female that HE should beget a child. Do you realize that the usage of the word “HE” in reference to God is not literal, is it? Hi BD, Like him you can be begotten from above by the Spirit.[1Peter1] You can be a son of God.

When you say begotten from above by Spirit isn't that a phrase of unity?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You become united to God and His son in the one Spirit.
Then when you own spirit leaves at death unity is complete in the Living Spirit.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,15:06)

Hi BD, You become united to God and His son in the one Spirit. Then when you own spirit leaves at death unity is complete in the Living Spirit.

So, you agree that using the word beget is poetic and not literal , right?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
God lives in his sons.
No poetry

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
God is at work in us to will and to do. [phil2]
The sons of Satan do his will.

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