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    Ed J
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    #273086
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2012,03:00)


    This woman is an Atheist so why is it you don't agree with Stu he says all the things that she says and more about ALL religions.

    She is also not correct on many things but she is correct on many things simply because as she said many dictatorships have caused problems which is why there is a huge uprising all over today but when they get rid of these dictators they are going straight to practicing Islam without a dictator telling them how they should worship

    #273232
    Ed J
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    Hi BD,

    If a captured slave of islam later converts to islam, do they get set free from slavery?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #273304
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2012,13:59)
    Hi BD,

    If a captured slave of islam later converts to islam, do they get set free from slavery?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    You mean when slavery was permitted in those countries? No, Just like Christians you were only set free by some sort of agreement or as some act of mercy

    Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),
    ( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #33)

    Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah. for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom.
    ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #92)

    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.
    ( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #89)

    #273305
    terraricca
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    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre

    #273312
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.

    #273357
    terraricca
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre

    #273482
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,11:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone  guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre


    Simply read the Quran to know what Islam is, the news and bias friends only guess.

    #273484
    terraricca
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,11:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone  guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre


    Simply read the Quran to know what Islam is, the news and bias friends only guess.


    bod

    so you do not know ??right

    #273485
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,07:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,11:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone  guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre


    Simply read the Quran to know what Islam is, the news and bias friends only guess.


    bod

    so you do not know ??right


    Of course I know

    #273496
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,07:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,11:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone  guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre


    Simply read the Quran to know what Islam is, the news and bias friends only guess.


    bod

    so you do not know ??right


    Of course I know


    bod

    :D :D :D

    the Koran is so precise that you can drive a 18 wheeler tractor trough it and still not be wrong,

    and who s is that OMAR that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??

    Pierre

    #273515
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,08:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,07:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,11:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

    Quote
    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone  guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre


    Simply read the Quran to know what Islam is, the news and bias friends only guess.


    bod

    so you do not know ??right


    Of course I know


    bod

    :D  :D  :D

    the Koran is so precise that you can drive a 18 wheeler tractor trough it and still not be wrong,

    and who s is that OMAR  that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??

    Pierre


    What does that mean?

    #273523
    terraricca
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,16:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,08:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,07:24)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,14:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,11:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2012,13:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2012,04:40)
    bod

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    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths

    and of cause your Imam will decided what is and what is not FUTILE right ??

    Pierre


    Orthodox Muslims do not have Imams held as special there is no sort of priesthood or Hiearchy in Orthodox Islam. There is no Sha or Supreme anything

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

    The Sunni branch of Islam, whereto approximately 90% of Muslims adhere, does not have a clergy and therefore an imam is not a cleric like that of a Catholic Christian priest. In the Shi'a branch of Islam, the concept of an imam occupies a much more central religious position.


    bod

    so how is someone  guided to distinct futile things of what are not ?

    so their are three different version in Islam ??

    Pierre


    Simply read the Quran to know what Islam is, the news and bias friends only guess.


    bod

    so you do not know ??right


    Of course I know


    bod

    :D  :D  :D

    the Koran is so precise that you can drive a 18 wheeler tractor trough it and still not be wrong,

    and who s is that OMAR  that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??

    Pierre


    What does that mean?


    bod

    it means that you can do with the Koran interpretation what you want ,as long you holding the power

    Pierre

    #273524
    terraricca
    Participant

    bod

    who s is that OMAR that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??

    #273576
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,09:33)
    bod

    who s is that OMAR  that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??


    You really should break away from “the play” and read the actual Quran and when you do please tell me how many times you read about “Omar” in it

    #273607
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,19:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,09:33)
    bod

    who s is that OMAR  that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??


    You really should break away from “the play” and read the actual Quran and when you do please tell me how many times you read about “Omar” in it


    bod

    the actual Koran is a fix as big as a garage door,

    Muhammad used the cousin of his wife ,a Christian to Wright,his book ,

    :D :D and you try to make us believe it is inspired ??from a women it is

    #273678
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,15:11)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,19:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,09:33)
    bod

    who s is that OMAR  that was honored before Mohamed in MECCA ??


    You really should break away from “the play” and read the actual Quran and when you do please tell me how many times you read about “Omar” in it


    bod

    the actual Koran is a fix as big as a garage door,

    Muhammad used the cousin of his wife ,a Christian to Wright,his book ,

     :D  :D and you try to make us believe it is inspired ??from a women it is


    No matter how you try to explain yourself by being duped by a voltaire play it doesn't make it any better by continuing saying what you do not know but even if what you wrote were true why do you have a problem with Christians and second why do you have problems with women?

    Those who slander chaste women, indiscreet but believing, are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter: for them is a grievous Penalty,-
    ( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #23)

    #349971
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    #349972
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    #350023
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ July 06 2013,20:59)


    You seem to continue mixing politics with religion also you continue to think Arab=Muslim an tht is not always the case

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