Quran vs the bible

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  • #195668
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Do you consider lying to be Evil? (Exodus 20:16 / Deut.5:20)
    Of course you don't, because the Hadiths say it is OK to lie!

    .

    #195670
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,02:36)
    Paul was using a quote out of context pertaining to Unbelievers.


    Hi BD,

    And you quote Bible verses out out context pertaining to Believers.
    Are you seeing your own reflection again? (Psalm 18:25-27) in Shaool?

    .

    #195672
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,02:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,02:36)
    You have even managed to say God needed to be saved from lucifer that somehow God needed to be cleansed what a blasphemous notion.


    You know very well I said no such garbage!


    Did you or did you not say that Lucifer was part of the Godhead and that was a corruption that needed to be purged?

    #195679
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,03:25)

    Did you or did you not say that Lucifer was part of the Godhead and that was a corruption that needed to be purged?


    Hi BD,

    The corruption that needs TO BE PURGED is inside of you!
    And this can ONLY be done by the “HolySpirit” on the inside.

    (R) Thanks to what “Jesus”=74 Christ did on the “cross”=74, the “HolySpirit” is available!
    (B) But you cannot receive the “HolySpirit” until you first accept the “Gospel”. (John 3:16)
    (Y) YHVH=63 has also provided us “Color”=63; three great feasts like three Prime colors.
    Receiving the “HolySpirit” is the second of the THREE GREAT FEASTS OF YHVH; they are…

    [[[Jesus (74) + cross (74) =148]]]
    1) The Passover=148 (1John 1:7)
    2) Pentecost (Jn.14:17,16:12-15)
    3) (Feast of Booths) (Isa.45:14)

    Keep asking questions; that's how you learn ! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)

    God bless
    Ed J (Eccl.9:12-16 / Isa.60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #195688
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ed, there are 7 feasts, they pertain to Jesus's return. passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, weeks,(which we are in now) trumpets, attonment, and tabernacle. Christ 1st. coming is talked about in feast of, passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, and weeks; His 2nd. coming.. trumpets, attonment, tabernacle. READ IN LEVITICUS 23.
    KATJO

    #195693
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ June 14 2010,05:16)
    Ed, there are 7 feasts, they pertain to Jesus's return. passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, weeks,(which we are in now) trumpets, attonment, and tabernacle. Christ 1st. coming is talked about in feast of, passover, unleavened bread, first fruits,  and weeks; His 2nd. coming.. trumpets, attonment, tabernacle. READ IN LEVITICUS 23.
    KATJO


    Hi Katjo,

    I know there are seven feasts in total; a “Fractal”
    of Seven Spirits(Click Here), Seven eyes(Zech.3:9).

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost” (Click Here)! (John 14:23 / Heb.9:28 / Isaiah 64:5)

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #195719
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,04:11)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,03:25)

    Did you or did you not say that Lucifer was part of the Godhead and that was a corruption that needed to be purged?


    Hi BD,

    The corruption that needs TO BE PURGED is inside of you!
    And this can ONLY be done by the “HolySpirit” on the inside.

    (R) Thanks to what “Jesus”=74 Christ did on the “cross”=74, the “HolySpirit” is available!
    (B) But you cannot receive the “HolySpirit” until you first accept the “Gospel”. (John 3:16)
    (Y) YHVH=63 has also provided us “Color”=63; three great feasts like three Prime colors.
    Receiving the “HolySpirit” is the second of the THREE GREAT FEASTS OF YHVH; they are…

    [[[Jesus (74) + cross (74) =148]]]
    1) The Passover=148 (1John 1:7)
    2) Pentecost (Jn.14:17,16:12-15)
    3) (Feast of Booths) (Isa.45:14)

    Keep asking questions; that's how you learn ! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)

    God bless
    Ed J (Eccl.9:12-16 / Isa.60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED,

    So Lucifer wasn't part of the Godhead?

    #195722
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,05:51)

    Quote (katjo @ June 14 2010,05:16)
    Ed, there are 7 feasts, they pertain to Jesus's return. passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, weeks,(which we are in now) trumpets, attonment, and tabernacle. Christ 1st. coming is talked about in feast of, passover, unleavened bread, first fruits,  and weeks; His 2nd. coming.. trumpets, attonment, tabernacle. READ IN LEVITICUS 23.
    KATJO


    Hi Katjo,

    I know there are seven feasts in total; a “Fractal”
    of Seven Spirits(Click Here), Seven eyes(Zech.3:9).

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost” (Click Here)! (John 14:23 / Heb.9:28 / Isaiah 64:5)

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED,

    Did Jesus also return in spirit form when Paul was on the road to demascus? was that his third coming?

    Can you tell me what did the angels mean when they said:

    Acts 1:9-11 (King James Version)

    9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

    10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

    11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

    They saw him rise physically

    #195729
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:55)
    ED,

    Can you tell me what did the angels mean when they said:

    Acts 1:9-11 (King James Version)

    9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

    10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

    11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


    Hi BD,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    He was taken from them into Spirit form(Luke 24:31)
    and returned in Spirit form at Pentecost(John 14:23)!
    .

    #195730
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:50)
    ED,

    So Lucifer wasn't part of the Godhead?


    Hi BD,

    I answered this question already.

    Ed J

    #195731
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:55)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,05:51)

    Quote (katjo @ June 14 2010,05:16)
    Ed, there are 7 feasts, they pertain to Jesus's return. passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, weeks,(which we are in now) trumpets, attonment, and tabernacle. Christ 1st. coming is talked about in feast of, passover, unleavened bread, first fruits,  and weeks; His 2nd. coming.. trumpets, attonment, tabernacle. READ IN LEVITICUS 23.
    KATJO


    Hi Katjo,

    I know there are seven feasts in total; a “Fractal”
    of Seven Spirits(Click Here), Seven eyes(Zech.3:9).

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost” (Click Here)! (John 14:23 / Heb.9:28 / Isaiah 64:5)

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED,

    Did Jesus also return in spirit form when Paul was on the road to demascus?


    Hi BD,

    Acts 9:17

    .

    #195732
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:25)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:55)
    ED,

    Can you tell me what did the angels mean when they said:

    Acts 1:9-11 (King James Version)

    9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

    10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

    11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


    Hi BD,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    He was taken from them into Spirit form(Luke 24:31)
    and returned in Spirit form at Pentecost(John 14:23)!
    .


    Spirits are not flesh and bone are they ED?

    Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
    Luke 24:38-40

    #195734
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:26)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:50)
    ED,

    So Lucifer wasn't part of the Godhead?


    Hi BD,

    I answered this question already.

    Ed J


    No really you should answer it plainly again so we all can be clear on what you have said and what you do believe.

    You did say that something was corrupt in the Godhead now please let's pin down your belief so everyone can see for themselves

    #195735
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:25)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:55)
    ED,

    Can you tell me what did the angels mean when they said:

    Acts 1:9-11 (King James Version)

    9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

    10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

    11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


    Hi BD,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    He was taken from them into Spirit form(Luke 24:31)
    and returned in Spirit form at Pentecost(John 14:23)!
    .


    Spirits are not flesh and bone are they ED?

    Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
    Luke 24:38-40


    Hi BD,

    John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my
    brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
    .

    #195736
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:26)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:50)
    ED,

    So Lucifer wasn't part of the Godhead?


    Hi BD,

    I answered this question already.

    Ed J


    No really you should answer it plainly again so we all can be clear on what you have said and what you do believe.


    Hi BD,

    John 9:27 He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear:
                     wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
    .

    #195737
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:30)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:25)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,06:55)
    ED,

    Can you tell me what did the angels mean when they said:

    Acts 1:9-11 (King James Version)

    9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

    10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

    11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


    Hi BD,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    He was taken from them into Spirit form(Luke 24:31)
    and returned in Spirit form at Pentecost(John 14:23)!
    .


    Spirits are not flesh and bone are they ED?

    Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
    Luke 24:38-40


    Hi BD,

    John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my
    brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
    .


    Thank you? Why would he say touch me not if he were a spirit? She would not have been able to physically touch a spirit, case closed on that one.

    Now what about this comment you made?

    Quote
    The work that Jesus finished was this separation in Himself made between
    {Lucifer=74} and the [GOD Spirit=117], which occurred at His death.

    You are clearly saying here that Lucifer and God's spirit was both inside of Jesus and this was all the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in him bodily.

    This means you are saying that crucifixion was necessary to remove the corruption in Christ which was Lucifer

    You are saying that the Godhead had been corrupted and needed to be purged by way of the cross that is what you believe

    #195747
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:37)
    1) You are clearly saying here that Lucifer and God's spirit was both inside of Jesus and this was all the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in him bodily.

    2) This means you are saying that crucifixion was necessary to remove the corruption in Christ which was Lucifer

    3) You are saying that the Godhead had been corrupted and needed to be purged by way of the cross that is what you believe


    Hi BD,

    1) No, I didn't say that; you did.

    2) Why are you trying to out words in my mouth?

    3) I didn't say that either?
    .

    #195748
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:30)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,07:25)
    Hi BD,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    He was taken from them into Spirit form(Luke 24:31)
    and returned in Spirit form at Pentecost(John 14:23)!
    .


    Spirits are not flesh and bone are they ED?

    Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
    Luke 24:38-40


    Hi BD,

    John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my
    brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
    .


    Thank you? Why would he say touch me not if he were a spirit? She would not have been able to physically touch a spirit, case closed on that one.


    Hi BD,

    What does what your saying here have to do with what I said?
    .

    #195750
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:37)
    1) You are clearly saying here that Lucifer and God's spirit was both inside of Jesus and this was all the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in him bodily.

    2) This means you are saying that crucifixion was necessary to remove the corruption in Christ which was Lucifer

    3) You are saying that the Godhead had been corrupted and needed to be purged by way of the cross that is what you believe

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((Edit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Hi BD,

    1) No, I didn't say that; you did.

    2) Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

    3) I didn't say that either?
    .

    #195767
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,08:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,07:37)
    1) You are clearly saying here that Lucifer and God's spirit was both inside of Jesus and this was all the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in him bodily.

    2) This means you are saying that crucifixion was necessary to remove the corruption in Christ which was Lucifer

    3) You are saying that the Godhead had been corrupted and needed to be purged by way of the cross that is what you believe

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((Edit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Hi BD,

    1) No, I didn't say that; you did.

    2) Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

    3) I didn't say that either?
    .


    I said:

    Quote
    Okay, so you are saying if I understand correctly Lucifer was in the Godhead with Jesus and Jehovah?

    Lucifer pursued Jesus to earth and upon killing him remained behind as Satan and Jesus returned back to Jehovah and this purified Jehovah's spirit to dwell in the believers?

    then you said

    Quote
    Hi BD,

    Although you still don't have the wording nailed down, you may be beginning to understand.
    Jesus was (in essence) a “fractal” of God, enabling the cleansing of God to come to believers.

    Ed J

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