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Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,22:25) Hi Karmarie, Why shouldn't I (according to the way 'you think') tell people about satan?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This good news of the coming kingdom will be taught as a witness to all the nations and then the end will come.Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,20:32) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,21:38) Hi Karmarie, Why? (Eph.6:12 / 2Peter 3:16)
“To not fully understand the enemy is to leave oneself blind”.
Ed,1) why? I dont fear the devil. If you have God why worry?
When you pray the devil flees, so why the obsession, why get into all of that?2) Things you dont know, assuming things which arent safe to assume, and writting about it, giving it away as a free ebook,
3) when there is such a clear warning in Jude and peter not to do that.
4) But your not understanding those verses I showed you. Please, try and understand them.
Hi Karmarie,I took the liberty of separating your Post into the four Points you make.
I hope this doesn't upset you Like when Kathi(LU) had a kiniption fit over something similar?1) So you think what you apply to yourself you can (forcibly) apply to others? (Philippians 2:12 / Matt.7:7)
2) Your using the same logic as an Atheist…'I know there's no (Falsely) God so what makes you think there is?'
This is another of satan's deceptions!…'How can anybody (Falsely again) possible know more than I do'?3) TALK ABOUT ASSUMPTIONS…You offer no explanation for the assertions you make!
4) I understand 2Peter 2:11-12 and Jude 1:9-10 just fine thank you!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,20:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,22:25) Hi Karmarie, Why shouldn't I (according to the way 'you think') tell people about satan?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This good news of the coming kingdom will be taught as a witness to all the nations and then the end will come.
Hi Karmarie,What does that have to do with my question to you?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, The words your argueing against are the words of the bible, how do you understand Jude and Peter? Were they to you written, symbolicly, maybe? The meanings hidden or something? It is a warning to not speak in any blasphemous way about Satan, thats what it says, thats what it means. The glorious ones, creations too of God, why speak of something you know nothing about? take the warning Ed, I warn you, not I but the words you read.
Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,23:10) Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,20:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,22:25) Hi Karmarie, Why shouldn't I (according to the way 'you think') tell people about satan?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This good news of the coming kingdom will be taught as a witness to all the nations and then the end will come.
Hi Karmarie,What does that have to do with my question to you?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThis is Gods will, to witness to people of the kingdom of God, of hope, love, empathy, to feed clothe care for others, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven, see, Gods will not ours.
Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,22:02) Ed, The words your argueing against are the words of the bible, how do you understand Jude and Peter? Were they to you written, symbolicly, maybe? The meanings hidden or something? It is a warning to not speak in any blasphemous way about Satan, thats what it says, thats what it means. The glorious ones, creations too of God, why speak of something you know nothing about? take the warning Ed, I warn you, not I but the words you read.
Hi Karmerie,It is your place to provide the evidence against me;
my Job is simply to refute the evidences you provide.
And so far you have provided NONE; instead you ask
me to help you gather evidence that you plan to use against me!
What makes you 'think' I will help in this foolishness the least bit?
The answer is: 'the entity' that is using you in this futile endeavor!Ed J
Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,22:10) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,23:10) Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,20:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,22:25) Hi Karmarie, Why should I NOT (according to the way 'you think') tell people about satan?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This good news of the coming kingdom will be taught as a witness to all the nations and then the end will come.
Hi Karmarie,What does that have to do with my question to you?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThis is Gods will, to witness to people of the kingdom of God, of hope, love, empathy, to feed clothe care for others, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven, see, Gods will not ours.
Hi Karmarie,You still haven't answered my question.
All you've done so far is go about telling me 'your' correct in your assertion?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,22:30) Ed, your avoiding what im saying.
Hi Karmarie,Your avoiding what I said. Seems your seeing your own reflection;
what's a matter you don't like what you see? (Psalm 18:25-27)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,22:30) Ed, your avoiding what im saying.
Hi Karmarie,I ain't avoiding what you have said in the least! (Isaiah 54:17 / Isaiah 27:4-5)
Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee(Ed J) shall prosper;
and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou(Ed J) shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their
righteousness is of me, saith .As the saying goes if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Psalm 120:7 I for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.
Isaiah 27:4-5 Fury is not in me(I eliminated anger long ago):
who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle?
I would go (right) through them, I would burn them together.
Or let him take hold of my strength (YHVH), that he (or she)
may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)Edj,
Be as harsh as you dare with the learned … But be gentle with the Aprrentices!
And recognise which is which and who is who!
Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,18:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 13 2010,14:43) Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,13:45) Bod, the Holy Spirit today strengthens and brings those of His to truth and brings to rememberance the words of Jesus and truth of him. Mohammad didnt do that though. He brought in error.
I would post more but am busy today.
But wouldn't you say error was whatever you didn't agree with or like? Sometimes we need to really investigate and just like revelations say eat what is sweet even though it will be bitter to the stomach.
Hi BD,Mohammad is who brought the error. (Col.2:18 / Gal.1:8-9)
Satan is the UNHOLY angel who told the LIES! (2Cor.11:14).
How do you judge that these things are in error?The same verse you apply in say galatians could easily apply to Paul's ministry since he never met Jesus and there is never any mention in the bible where Jesus appeared to anyone else as an “Angel of light”
After Jesus was “raised” and his disciples saw him there is no mention of him being a being of light especially one that blinds the eyes with scales
Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,20:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 13 2010,16:43) But wouldn't you say error was whatever you didn't agree with or like? Sometimes we need to really investigate and just like revelations say eat what is sweet even though it will be bitter to the stomach.
Hi bod, I have already done that, investigated, iv looked at Islam, you know that, I almost…almost became one but I couldnt bring myself to say those words….God has no Son. Im not speaking in ignorance you know that. So, error is what I myself see as error from what I knew already. Where you see it as a correction to what you knew already., or a further revelationSo, what is sweet like honey but bitter to the stomach..John was told to eat the scroll.
” Thy words have been found, and I eat them, And Thy word is to me for a joy, And for the rejoicing of my heart, For Thy name is called on me, O Jehovah, God of Hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16
But the bitter…
“Most men feel pleasure in looking into future events, and all good men like to receive a word from God. But when this book of prophecy was thoroughly digested by the apostle, the contents would be bitter; there were things so awful and terrible, such grievous persecutions of the people of God, such desolations in the earth, that the foresight and foreknowledge of them would be painful to his mind”….From Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary.
Yes, but you never completed the most important part of your investigation which was to actually read the Quran.Of course you could complete your investigation and still have the same conclusion but to simply condemn what you don't know is unlike you.
Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,22:19) Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,22:02) Ed, The words your argueing against are the words of the bible, how do you understand Jude and Peter? Were they to you written, symbolicly, maybe? The meanings hidden or something? It is a warning to not speak in any blasphemous way about Satan, thats what it says, thats what it means. The glorious ones, creations too of God, why speak of something you know nothing about? take the warning Ed, I warn you, not I but the words you read.
Hi Karmerie,It is your place to provide the evidence against me;
my Job is simply to refute the evidences you provide.
And so far you have provided NONE; instead you ask
me to help you gather evidence that you plan to use against me!
What makes you 'think' I will help in this foolishness the least bit?
The answer is: 'the entity' that is using you in this futile endeavor!Ed J
ED,How is it you don't take that same advice regarding Islam, you have presented no evidence unless you consider stuffing your ears and covering your eyes as a form of evidence and by the way Karmarie is right about Jude and Peter and she has to be right according to your method of numbers because
Jude and Peter =123
The Holy Bible = 123
Lord Jesus =123
is it scary =123Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,00:02) Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,20:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 13 2010,16:43) But wouldn't you say error was whatever you didn't agree with or like? Sometimes we need to really investigate and just like revelations say eat what is sweet even though it will be bitter to the stomach.
Hi bod, I have already done that, investigated, iv looked at Islam, you know that, I almost…almost became one but I couldnt bring myself to say those words….God has no Son. Im not speaking in ignorance you know that. So, error is what I myself see as error from what I knew already. Where you see it as a correction to what you knew already., or a further revelationSo, what is sweet like honey but bitter to the stomach..John was told to eat the scroll.
” Thy words have been found, and I eat them, And Thy word is to me for a joy, And for the rejoicing of my heart, For Thy name is called on me, O Jehovah, God of Hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16
But the bitter…
“Most men feel pleasure in looking into future events, and all good men like to receive a word from God. But when this book of prophecy was thoroughly digested by the apostle, the contents would be bitter; there were things so awful and terrible, such grievous persecutions of the people of God, such desolations in the earth, that the foresight and foreknowledge of them would be painful to his mind”….From Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary.
Yes, but you never completed the most important part of your investigation which was to actually read the Quran.Of course you could complete your investigation and still have the same conclusion but to simply condemn what you don't know is unlike you.
Hi BD,The answer to that is simple, stay away from liars…
.
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 13 2010,23:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,18:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 13 2010,14:43) Quote (karmarie @ June 13 2010,13:45) Bod, the Holy Spirit today strengthens and brings those of His to truth and brings to rememberance the words of Jesus and truth of him. Mohammad didnt do that though. He brought in error.
I would post more but am busy today.
But wouldn't you say error was whatever you didn't agree with or like? Sometimes we need to really investigate and just like revelations say eat what is sweet even though it will be bitter to the stomach.
Hi BD,Mohammad is who brought the error. (Col.2:18 / Gal.1:8-9)
Satan is the UNHOLY angel who told the LIES! (2Cor.11:14).
1) How do you judge that these things are in error?2) The same verse you apply in say galatians could easily apply to Paul's ministry since he never met Jesus and there is never any mention in the bible where Jesus appeared to anyone else as an “Angel of light”
3) After Jesus was “raised” and his disciples saw him there is no mention of him being a being of light especially one that blinds the eyes with scales
Hi BD,1) 2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2) So now you admit you don't believe in the New “Testament”!
3) Do you think Paul wrote the following to to refute his own experience?
1Tm:6:16: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;
whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen. (2Cor.4:6)This should add clarity to the readers!; but to you, probably not? (Hebrews 6:4-6)
2Cor:4:6: For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the “glory”=77 of God in the face of Jesus “Christ”=77..
Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,00:31) Hi BD, 1) 2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2) So now you admit you don't believe in the New “Testament”!
3) Do you think Paul wrote the following to to refute his own experience?
1Tm:6:16: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;
whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen. (2Cor.4:6)This should add clarity to the readers!; but to you, probably not? (Hebrews 6:4-6)
2Cor:4:6: For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the “glory”=77 of God in the face of Jesus “Christ”=77..
Let's see what Paul says:For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
Romans 3:6-8Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,01:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,00:31) Hi BD, 1) 2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2) So now you admit you don't believe in the New “Testament”!
3) Do you think Paul wrote the following to to refute his own experience?
1Tm:6:16: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;
whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen. (2Cor.4:6)This should add clarity to the readers!; but to you, probably not? (Hebrews 6:4-6)
2Cor:4:6: For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the “glory”=77 of God in the face of Jesus “Christ”=77..
Let's see what Paul says:For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
Romans 3:6-8
Hi BD,You have never been able to my words against me,
like you continually try to do to Shaool(The Apostle Paul)!It's funny how you reference Romans 3:6-8, yet you 'only' Post 3:7?
Should we consider this a lie or just a mistake, like your slanderous reported of Paul?Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,)
Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. 6) …how then shall God judge the world?Ed J
PS> Try again; but remember your going to have to give an account FOR EVERY WORD! (Matt.12:36)Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,02:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2010,01:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,00:31) Hi BD, 1) 2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2) So now you admit you don't believe in the New “Testament”!
3) Do you think Paul wrote the following to to refute his own experience?
1Tm:6:16: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;
whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen. (2Cor.4:6)This should add clarity to the readers!; but to you, probably not? (Hebrews 6:4-6)
2Cor:4:6: For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the “glory”=77 of God in the face of Jesus “Christ”=77..
Let's see what Paul says:For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
Romans 3:6-8
Hi BD,You have never been able to my words against me,
like you continually try to do to Shaool(The Apostle Paul)!It's funny how you reference Romans 3:6-8, yet you 'only' Post 3:7?
Should we consider this a lie or just a mistake, like your slanderous reported of Paul?Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,)
Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. 6) …how then shall God judge the world?Ed J
PS> Try again; but remember your going to have to give an account FOR EVERY WORD! (Matt.12:36)
3:8 does not change the context at all because he is simply saying that he is not saying go do evil he is saying if his lie causes you to do good why should he be called evil.Then he shows the fact
Romans 3:9-10 (King James Version)
9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
now as you should know 3:10 is a misquote of the OT the actual quote and context is:
Psalm 14
1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.Paul was using a quote out of context pertaining to Unbelievers. If no one does right God would not have called some men perfect and upright
So Paul misguides in an attempt to do good just like you do. You have even managed to say God needed to be saved from lucifer that somehow God needed to be cleansed what a blasphemous notion.
You make the creation save the CREATOR you are in serious error just like Paul and just as dangerous to the uninformed
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