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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer 
does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 10 2013,18:32) bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote I'm not sure of that story but that would prove Muhammad was a True Prophet even more: First thing to note is that even if the Prophet (peace be upon him did die from the poison right away then that does not disprove his Prophethood since the Jews had a history of killing Prophets…
BD,
ONLY BEFORE JESUS DEATH THEY KILLED THEM!
I am sure you know about it, but you simply are HIDING BEHIND YOUR FINGER! FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT TRUE GOD'S PROPHETS ENDED WITH JOHN!
NOW READ:
MARK 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues. 18They shall take up serpents;
and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them:
they shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they shall recover.
SO SINCE MAHOMMET DIED POISENED HE IS NOT OF GOD!
Charles
The Holy scriptures say that there were other prophets:Acts 11:27
During this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch.Acts 13:1
Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul.Do you trust these verses?
Also the people believed that if Jesus was crucified he could not be of God but he was, right? but Muhammad died 4 years after being poisoned so it is not clear if he died from the poison as 4 years is a long time for poison to kill anyone.
However should we think someone being killed or dying decides their relationship with God? Stephen was stoned did he do or say something wrong regarding God, of course not!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 10 2013,14:16) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 09 2013,17:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,14:41) muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful. ( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Hi BD,You mean 'al-Lah' didn't know that Muhammad would die by eating a poison lamb?
Ed (witness)
I'm not sure of that story but that would prove Muhammad was a True Prophet even more:First thing to note is that even if the Prophet (peace be upon him did die from the poison right away then that does not disprove his Prophethood since the Jews had a history of killing Prophets…
Matthew 23:37
37″O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
No BD, it proves conclusivly that Muhammad was a FALSE PROPHET!Quote (sura @ 69 44-46) 44: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,
45: We should certainly seize him by his right hand,
46: And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:Sahih al-Bukari, 4428:
The prophet in his aliment in which he died,
use to say “O Aishah! I still feel the pain of the food I ate at Khaibar,
and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.
This video examines all the FACTS concerning Muhammad's deathEd (witness)
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 10 2013,18:32) bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote I'm not sure of that story but that would prove Muhammad was a True Prophet even more: First thing to note is that even if the Prophet (peace be upon him did die from the poison right away then that does not disprove his Prophethood since the Jews had a history of killing Prophets…
BD,
ONLY BEFORE JESUS DEATH THEY KILLED THEM!
I am sure you know about it, but you simply are HIDING BEHIND YOUR FINGER! FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT TRUE GOD'S PROPHETS ENDED WITH JOHN!
NOW READ:
MARK 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues. 18They shall take up serpents;
and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them:
they shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they shall recover.
SO SINCE MAHOMMET DIED POISENED HE IS NOT OF GOD!
Charles
Would you agree that the disciples believed in Jesus?Would you also agree with this verse?
Mark 6:5
He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.Luke 9:40
I begged your disciples to drive it out, but they could not.”But then again charles
according to http://www.bible-researcher.com/endmark.html
Mark 16:9-20
Mark 16:9-20 has been called a later addition to the Gospel of Mark by most New Testament scholars in the past century. The main reason for doubting the authenticity of the ending is that it does not appear in some of the oldest existing witnesses, and it is reported to be absent from many others in ancient times by early writers of the Church. Moreover, the ending has some stylistic features which also suggest that it came from another hand. The Gospel is obviously incomplete without these verses, and so most scholars believe that the final leaf of the original manuscript was lost, and that the ending which appears in English versions today (verses 9-20) was supplied during the second century. Below are some excerpts from various scholarly sources that conclude that the verses are a later addition.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 10 2013,14:16) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 09 2013,17:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,14:41) muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful. ( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Hi BD,You mean 'al-Lah' didn't know that Muhammad would die by eating a poison lamb?
Ed (witness)
I'm not sure of that story but that would prove Muhammad was a True Prophet even more:First thing to note is that even if the Prophet (peace be upon him did die from the poison right away then that does not disprove his Prophethood since the Jews had a history of killing Prophets…
Matthew 23:37
37″O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
No BD, it proves conclusivly that Muhammad was a FALSE PROPHET!Quote (sura @ 69 44-46) 44: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,
45: We should certainly seize him by his right hand,
46: And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:Sahih al-Bukari, 4428:
The prophet in his aliment in which he died,
use to say “O Aishah! I still feel the pain of the food I ate at Khaibar,
and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.
This video examines all the FACTS concerning Muhammad's deathEd (witness)
There is a problem with your complaint/accusationsura,69 wrote:44: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,
45: We should certainly seize him by his right hand,
46: And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:This surah is saying that God would not allow Muhammad to invent meaning it would be prevented. If what he wrote has already been allowed then God did not seize his right hand an stop his heart.
When Muhammad died the Quran was finished, Praise be to God! Had Muhammad been a false prophet God would have seized Muhammad's right hand andprevented him from veing able to complete this Glorious Quran.
So does verse 46 back up verse 45 in your opinion? Was the right hand of Muhammad seized to prevent any inventions?
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 11 2013,03:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:16) [/quote] bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:Quote Abraham did't kill or sacrifice his son so where ithe symbology coming from? BD,
Keep in mind a fundamental truth which is : FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING, IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKEN
SO WHEN YOU WANT TO DISCERN GOD'S WORK LOOK FROM THE SPIRIT POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE FROM THE FLESH POINT OF VIEW IS SATANIC!
Your MUSLIM human intellect is only able to understand profound truth to a certain
degree, because pure SPIRITUALITY is only spiritually explainable, to all those who live genuinely in CHRIST IN FULL not as a human being only, like you believe he was. Jesus Christ is now GLORIFIED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ONE GLORY OF THE FATHER, THEREFORE GOD IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH Therefore as a human being HE IS NON EXISTANT! And the spirit who is an authority over the flesh, is Satan!ANOTHER FUNDAMENTAL:
JESUS CHRIST TOPPLED ALL ONTO HIMSELF THROUGH HIS OWN PARTICULAR DEATH,WHICH CARNAL WISE SEEMED A NORMAL DEATH BUT INSTEAD IT WASN'T
NOW:
THE FACT THAT JESUS CAME BACK TO LIFE AFTER THREE DAYS, IN REALITY HE NEVER DIED, IN THE SAME SENSE LIKE WE DO!
The Koran confirms this but it is hidden in the literal sense, since it is carnal minded revelation!
So as soon as Jesus said to his Father, “IN YOUR HAND I LEAVE MY SPIRIT”,
His flesh body, never maintained the same state like it was when he was alive, OBVIOUSLY, but continued the spiritual process! There was no kind of postponement from state of being alive in the flesh, to the state of being alive in the spirit! JESUS CONFIRMED:John 13: 32 If God be glorified in him, God also will glorify him in himself; and IMMEDIATELY will he glorify him.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself
IT IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL!
IT HAD TO BE SINCE HE WAS THE ETERNAL LIFE!
SO THE STORY OF ABRAHAM WAS TO PREDICT THAT JESUS WOULD LIVE THROUGH THE SUPPOSED DEATH!
Quote NOW READ HEREUNDER: Romans 1: For the INVISIBLE THINGS of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE; his eternal power also, and DIVINITY: so that they are inexcusable.
Quote Yes the things you call CARNAL area reflection of wh you call SPIRITUAL so you have no excuse NO AS I SAID ABOVE, THE TROUBLE WITH YOU MUSLIMS, YOU ONLY ACCEPT, AND DISCERN WHAT IS CARNAL,AND EARTHLY, WHICH BELONG TO SATAN, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE DAYS WHEN THE KORAN WAS WRITTEN! DUE TO THE FACT THAT:
(A) THE JEWS HAD THEIR BIBLE, A REFERENCE REGARDING THE FLESH AND BLOOD BODY WHICH ITS ORIGIN WAS LUCIFER’S SPIRIT CARRIER! MANIFESTED IN THEIR WAY OF LIVING!
(B)THE CHRISTIANS HAD THEIR SCRIPTURE , A REFERENCE REGARDING THE SOUL, OBVIOUS JESUS’SUBSTANCE, THROUGH THE WORDMANIFESTED IN THEIR WAY OF LIVING!
© THERE WAS LEFT ONLY TO BE PUBLISHED THE KORAN FOR THE MUSLIMS, A REFERENCE TO THE SPIRIT SATAN’S,ALSO EX LUCIFER'S WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM HUMANS’SOULS! AND ENDED WITHOUT A WRITTEN BELIEF, MANIFESTED IN THEIR WAY OF LIVING!
THE REASON THAT THE KORAN HAS A MIXED, CORRUPTED WRITTEN BELIEF DERIVED BOTH FROM THE JEWS, AND THE CHRISTIANS!
AS I SAID THESE THREE RELIGIONS ARE ALL ABRAHAM DISCENDANTS, AND THEY MANIFEST THE MAN IN SPIRIT, SOULS AND FLESH!
SO SINCE ABRAHAM HAD INTERCOURSE BOTH WITH SARAH, AND HAGAR, FOR YOU MUSLIMS, CARNAL MINDED RELIGION ARE CONCLUDING THAT IT IS THE SAME SEED! OBVIOUS CARNAL WISE! IT IS! BUT SPIRIT WISE IT ISN'T FOR SURE!
WHICH EVEN TODAY, IT IS QUITE UNDERSTANDABLE, THAT IF A MARRIED MUSLIM BETRAY HIS WIFE AND HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH ANOTHER WOMAN, DEFINITELY IT WOULD BE AN EVIL ACT, SO THE SPIRIT WHICH ENTERRED IN THE SPERM WOULD NOT BE THE SAME SPIRIT WHICH ENTERRED HIS SAME SPERM WHILE HE HAD INTERCOURSE WITH HIS WIFE.
THAT’S WHERE WE MUST RESPECT THE FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT BY JESUS CHRIST, THE TRUTH, THAT:
THE FLESH SPERM COUNTS FOR NOTHING IT IS THE SPIRIT WHICH QUICKEN! OK?
SO HAGAR RECEIVED SATAN’S SPIRIT!
AND SARAH RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT!
WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORD JESUS’ SPIRIT WAS STILL HIDDEN IN SATAN’S, BUT NOW IT’S UP TO YOU TO BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER. AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BECOME A CHRISTIAN,
THAT WOULD BE THE DAY!!!!
Mine :
SO IT IS CLEAR THAT WHOEVER WANTS TO KNOW THE SECRET THINGS OF GOD IT IS DEFINITELY HIDDEN IN THE SCRIPTURES! NOW IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOW HUMBLE, AND IN LOVE TO GOD HE PRAYS IN ORDER TO DISCERN HIS THINGS!
Quote God's ways are HIGHER than yours what secret do you want to know when GOD toldyou plainly what to do? THERE YOU ARE! YOU ONLY SPEAK LIKE THAT SINCE YOU ARE A MUSLIM, CARNAL MINDED! THE MORE YOU DENY YOURSELF, AND LOVE GOD IN THE TRUTH, THE MORE HE SHOWS YOU HIS MYSTERIES
THIS:
James 1:5 But if any of you want wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to all men abundantly, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea, which is moved and carried about by the wind. 7Therefore let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8A double minded man is inconstant in all his ways.
Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you. 8For every one that asketh, receiveth: and he that seeketh, findeth: and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened.
SATAN’S SPIRIT HAD THE RIGHT TO OWN ALL MALE FIRSTBORNS, AFTER ADAM SIN! WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, WHICH WERE ALL THE WORK BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! COMMENCED BY SETH! SO,SINCE ABRAHAM WAS CALLED BY GOD, IT STANDS TO REASON, THAT ABRAHAM WAS OF THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, HE WAS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!
Quote This is just a LIE fo GOD SAID: Numbers 3:13
Because all the firstborn are mine; for on the day that I smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the firstborn in Israel, both man and beast: mine shall they be: I am the Lord.YES
AGAIN: FUNDFAMENTAL:FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING, GOD IS REFERRING TO THE SPIRIT NOT TO THE FLESH!ALL FLESH WAS SATAN’S
SO THE CIRCUMSISION WAS A SATANIC ACT EXTERNALLY, EVEN THE EGYPTIANS USED IT, BUT SPIRITUALLY WAS GOD’S
WHEN WILL YOU CARNAL MINDED RELIGION BELIEVE THAT GOD IS SPIRIT, AND WHEN HE SPEAKS AND WORKS, IN GENERSAL HE IS ALWAYS CONCERNED OF HIS OWN SPIRIT WHICH ALL ARE NO MATTER WHOES!
GOD DID HIS WORK IN THE OT HIDDEN IN THE ENTIRE WORK OF THE GOD OF THE WORLD! SATAN’S
JESUS REVEALED HIM!
Quote I stopped there because this showed your lack of discernment according to the scriptures I DON’T BLAME YOU FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKEN! SO A CARNAL MINDED MUSLIM IS INFERIOR TO SPIRITUAL MINDED PERSON!
Charles
Genesis 17:10-12Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. 12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
So God commanded them to do a Satanic act?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:06) Did Jesus come to bring peace?
“Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth,
give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.” (John 14:27)Ed (witness)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,06:00) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) No BD, it proves conclusivly that Muhammad was a FALSE PROPHET! Quote (sura @ 69 44-46) 44: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,
45: We should certainly seize him by his right hand,
46: And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:Sahih al-Bukari, 4428:
The prophet in his aliment in which he died,
use to say “O Aishah! I still feel the pain of the food I ate at Khaibar,
and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.
This video examines all the FACTS concerning Muhammad's deathEd (witness)
There is a problem with your complaint/accusationQuote (sura @ 69 44-46) 44: And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,
45: We should certainly seize him by his right hand,
46: And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:This surah is saying that God would not allow Muhammad to invent meaning it would be prevented. If what he wrote has already been allowed then God did not seize his right hand an stop his heart.
When Muhammad died the Quran was finished, Praise be to God! Had Muhammad been a false prophet God would have seized Muhammad's right hand andprevented him from veing able to complete this Glorious Quran.
So does verse 46 back up verse 45 in your opinion? Was the right hand of Muhammad seized to prevent any inventions?
Hi BD,You need to take off those 'rose colored glasses' so you can
see islam for what it really is – which is the religion of satan.Quote (Sahih al-Bukari @ 4428)
Sahih al-Bukari, 4428:The prophet in his aliment in which he died,
use to say “O Aishah! I still feel the pain of the food I ate at Khaibar,
and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.It quite poetic that YHVH would let him die the very death that conclusively PROVES that he was a false prophet.
Ed (witness)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod
you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]
Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hir
schfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]BOD
Quote Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent? IF YOUR FRIEND USE YOUR NAME TO DO WHAT YOU ARE NEVER DO OR WILL NEVER DO WHAT CAN YOU DO ???IN THE CASE OF MEN gOD WILL BRING EVERYTHING ONTO JUDGMENT AT THE END ,
AND ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST KINGDOM IS AND AS NOT PART OF THIS WORLD ,
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]
Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terr
orist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]
Boditharta.You are talking about the *so called*christians,
and they can be very violent also.
But Jesus teaching is of peace and love.
The qur'an teaches to destroy all the non muslems,for they are infidels,and pigs.Two different books;two different teachings.
The book of allah;and the book of Jehovah.
Allah has the holy qur'an; and Jehovah has the Holy bible.
The two are not the same book,and not the same God.Allah is not Jehovah,because allah has his own book.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2013,23:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]
Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detai
ling that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]
Boditharta.You are talking about the *so called*christians,
and they can be very violent also.
But Jesus teaching is of peace and love.
The qur'an teaches to destroy all the non muslems,for they are infidels,and pigs.Two different books;two different teachings.
The book of allah;and the book of Jehovah.
Allah has the holy qur'an; and Jehovah has the Holy bible.
The two are not the same book,and not the same God.Allah is not Jehovah,because allah has his own book.
wakeup.
Actually the Quran DOES NOT teach what you said, but why is it when a “Christian” does wrong you seem to understand that they are not following th true teachings but you do not accept the same argument when a Muslims says the same thing that is being a hypocrite isn't it?Which is Jehovah's book? The bible is a collection of books compiled together by a Church you call unholy. so which of the 66 or 74 or in some cases 84 books are Jehovah's?
The Quran is the ONLY BOOK in History that each the historyof Humanity the Jews, Jesus and beyond in a way that is cohesive with the collection called the Bible in a single simple book
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 12 2013,01:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2013,23:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]
Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charg
ed with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]
Boditharta.You are talking about the *so called*christians,
and they can be very violent also.
But Jesus teaching is of peace and love.
The qur'an teaches to destroy all the non muslems,for they are infidels,and pigs.Two different books;two different teachings.
The book of allah;and the book of Jehovah.
Allah has the holy qur'an; and Jehovah has the Holy bible.
The two are not the same book,and not the same God.Allah is not Jehovah,because allah has his own book.
wakeup.
Actually the Quran DOES NOT teach what you said, but why is it when a “Christian” does wrong you seem to understand that they are not following th true teachings but you do not accept the same argument when a Muslims says the same thing that is being a hypocrite isn't it?
bodthis is because the Bible is the true word of God ,and for those reasons anyone who says that he his a believer but does not practice what the scriptures teaches then he his a liar ,
but wen a Muslim that has his own book is not better than the bouddist that follow his book,or Catholic they have their own Missel book ,in this case we do not use their own book but the scriptures to judge their actions ,but their are no liars if they follow their own book ,they just do not follow the truth of God almighty from the scriptures ,
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2013,10:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 12 2013,01:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2013,23:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terr
orism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]
Boditharta.You are talking about the *so called*christians,
and they can be very violent also.
But Jesus teaching is of peace and love.
The qur'an teaches to destroy all the non muslems,for they are infidels,and pigs.Two different books;two different teachings.
The book of allah;and the book of Jehovah.
Allah has the holy qur'an; and Jehovah has the Holy bible.
The two are not the same book,and not the same God.Allah is not Jehovah,because allah has his own book.
wakeup.
Actually the Quran DOES NOT teach what you said, but why is it when a “Christian” does wrong you seem to understand that they are not following th true teachings but you do not accept the same argument when a Muslims says the same thing that is being a hypocrite isn't it?
bodthis is because the Bible is the true word of God ,and for those reasons anyone who says that he his a believer but does not practice what the scriptures teaches then he his a liar ,
but wen a Muslim that has his own book is not better than the bouddist that follow his book,or Catholic they have their own Missel book ,in this case we do not use their own book but the scriptures to judge their actions ,but their are no liars if they follow their own book ,they just do not follow the truth of God almighty from the scriptures ,
The Catholic Bible came before the one you read so you hav rejected some of the Bible as the protestants didQuote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 12 2013,06:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2013,23:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]
Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charg
ed with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]
Boditharta.You are talking about the *so called*christians,
and they can be very violent also.
But Jesus teaching is of peace and love.
The qur'an teaches to destroy all the non muslems,for they are infidels,and pigs.Two different books;two different teachings.
The book of allah;and the book of Jehovah.
Allah has the holy qur'an; and Jehovah has the Holy bible.
The two are not the same book,and not the same God.Allah is not Jehovah,because allah has his own book.
wakeup.
Actually the Quran DOES NOT teach what you said, but why is it when a “Christian” does wrong you seem to understand that they are not following th true teachings but you do not accept the same argument when a Muslims says the same thing that is being a hypocrite isn't it?
Boditharta.Any book besides the bible;claiming to be inspired by God,
always use the same tactics.1.Agree in some parts with the bible.(compromise).
2.Disagree in some parts.(saying that the bible has been corrupted,or some other reason).
3. This is how they work;to create confusion.
4.Therefore it is new,cause its different than the original.The qur'an is written 650 yrs ad. This means that there was a 650yr gap.(black hole).
It compromises with the bible and also contradicts.
This is how new religions are structured.
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A christian sinning, will be punished more than a non christian sinning.
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The old testament teachings started with Adam,and it continues *without gap* to Jesus new testament.
There can not be any gaps; especially a 650yr gap.
Every generation must have the same chance.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2013,13:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 12 2013,06:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2013,23:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,12:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,11:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2013,00:06) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2013,14:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,09:41) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God
NO
muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)
Surah 35
34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,
35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”
No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?
Do you also Worship Jesus?
bodso he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,
You watch too much news did you know that the word “sword” is only mentioned in the Quran 1 time and it is referring to using it on an animal, yet you believe and say that Islam was spread by the sword and yet the Bible has the word sword mentioned 404 times.The Quran never mentions killing babies but th bible does. Still the Bible is beautiful and wonderful an teaches us a lot about the history of God and humanity. If you ever read the Bible you will have a better understanding of it.
Have you read the Bible and considered all of it's content? If you have truly studied the Bible and not the Quran I'm sure you will agree that there is plenty of violence in the Bible, right?
Did Jesus come to bring peace?
bod you whach to much TV NEWS may be you do not ,and so are living a dream in your bedroom ,lock up,
Quote Did Jesus come to bring peace? NO,but tell me how many did he kill
NONE,the sword he brouth in the world was a sword of division between those who have and preach true faith and all the others ,
and the true faith is not the faith of Muhammad this is a fact .
ED say he came to bring peace you say he didn't which one of you are right?
bodwe are both right ;
EDJ speeks of the peace Christ brouth with God his father that is what the reconceiling is all about ,
when I said he brouth a sword it was the division he brouth in the world so men are divided by accepting the faith that give eternal life from the father ,and in which many do not believe ,and so are divided ,but their is NO PHYSICAL WAR OR VIOLENCE FROM THE PART OF CHRIST DISCIPLES
Good answer. So how did the Christians get so violent?Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism:
Rajeev Srinivasan writes in the Daily News and Analysis: “There are many historical examples of Christian religious terrorism, going back to the liquidation of the Albigensians and other heretics around 345 CE, the horrors of the Spanish Inquisition… all the way to assassinations by radical anti-abortionists in the US. The National Liberation Front of Tripura is an explicitly Christian terrorist group, forcibly converting people. The National Socialist Council of Nagaland has unleashed terrorism in
its pursuit of 'Nagalim for Christ'.”[4][5]Even in recent times:
Norway[edit source]
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island.[40] As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a “Christian crusader”.[41] Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[42][43][44] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[45][46] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[47]
Boditharta.You are talking about the *so called*christians,
and they can be very violent also.
But Jesus teaching is of peace and love.
The qur'an teaches to destroy all the non muslems,for they are infidels,and pigs.Two different books;two different teachings.
The book of allah;and the book of Jehovah.
Allah has the holy qur'an; and Jehovah has the Holy bible.
The two are not the same book,and not the same God.Allah is not Jehovah,because allah has his own book.
wakeup.
Actually the Quran DOES NOT teach what you said, but why is it when a “Christian” does wrong you seem to understand that they are not following th true teachings but you do not accept the same argument when a Muslims says the same thing that is being a hypocrite isn't it?
Boditharta.Any book besides the bible;claiming to be inspired by God,
always use the same tactics.1.Agree in some parts with the bible.(compromise).
2.Disagree in some parts.(saying that the bible has been corrupted,or some other reason).
3. This is how they work;to create confusion.
4.Therefore it is new,cause its different than the original.The qur'an is written 650 yrs ad. This means that there was a 650yr gap.(black hole).
It compromises with the bible and also contradicts.
This is how new religions are structured.
********
A christian sinning, will be punished more than a non christian sinning.
**********
The old testament teachings started with Adam,and it continues *without gap* to Jesus new testament.
There can not be any gaps; especially a 650yr gap.
Every generation must have the same chance.wakeup.
You still don't understand that the bible is a collection of books, so please tell me why you don't accept all those books lik the ones removed from the catholic bible?The Quran isa single book that covers all the things that are in the 66 books that you read
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