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- August 18, 2013 at 12:52 am#355460Ed JParticipant
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,11:24) If you want to talk about something in particular I will
OK:Qur'an Error: Does the Sun Set in a Muddy Pool? (Surah 18:86)
August 18, 2013 at 4:14 am#355484bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 18 2013,11:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,11:24) If you want to talk about something in particular I will
OK:Qur'an Error: Does the Sun Set in a Muddy Pool? (Surah 18:86)
This is not a literal statemet it is based on “observer viewpoint” I have already explaned to you that the sun doesn't set at all EVER so when the term is metioned in the Bible, Quran or in any other every day usage it is always “observer viewpoint”We travel around the Sun every 24 hours when it is sunset to us it is sunrise to others but the fact is the Sun neither Rises or Sets it just appears to do so.
Every morning the Sunsets below the fence of my wooden backyard fence (From my viewpoint) Where doesthe sunset where you live?
Case Close next issue please.
August 18, 2013 at 4:46 am#355486bodhithartaParticipant[He is] Lord of the two sunrises and Lord of the two sunsets.
( سورة الرحمن , Ar-Rahman, Chapter #55, Verse #17)
August 18, 2013 at 4:57 am#355487bodhithartaParticipanthttp://solar-center.stanford.edu/AO/sunrise.html
Most people know that the Sun “rises in the east and sets in the west”. However, most people don't realize that is a generalization. Actually, the Sun only rises due east and sets due west on 2 days of the year — the spring and fall equinoxes! On other days, the Sun rises either north or south of “due east” and sets north or south of “due west.”
Each day the rising and setting points change slightly. At the summer solstice, the Sun rises as far to the northeast as it ever does, and sets as far to the northwest. Every day after that, the Sun rises a tiny bit further south.
At the fall equinox, the Sun rises due east and sets due west. It continues on it's journey southward until, at the winter solstice, the Sun rises are far to the south as it ever does, and sets as far to the southwest.
Many, if not most, prehistoric cultures tracked these rising and settings points with great detail. If they had jagged mountains along the horizon, the exact points could be readily remembered. Without a suitably interesting horizon, standing stones could be arranged to line up with the various rising and setting points. Or, tree poles could replace the standing stones. Or, rock cairns could be used.August 19, 2013 at 1:59 am#355568Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,15:14) This is not a literal statemet it is based on “observer viewpoint” I have already explaned to you that the sun doesn't set at all EVER so when the term is metioned in the Bible, Quran or in any other every day usage it is always “observer viewpoint” We travel around the Sun every 24 hours when it is sunset to us it is sunrise to others but the fact is the Sun neither Rises or Sets it just appears to do so.
Every morning the Sunsets below the fence of my wooden backyard fence (From my viewpoint) Where doesthe sunset where you live?
Case Close next issue please.
Hi BD, No, case reopened.How do you explain the “muddy water” part and “the people” who are there?
Are these then DELUSIONS on the part of “observer Muhammad's viewpoint”?Ed
August 19, 2013 at 2:01 am#355569Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,15:46) [He is] Lord of the two sunrises and Lord of the two sunsets. ( سورة الرحمن , Ar-Rahman, Chapter #55, Verse #17)
Hi BD,How is there “two” sunrises and “two” sunsets?
Ed
August 19, 2013 at 4:31 am#355584bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,12:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,15:14) This is not a literal statemet it is based on “observer viewpoint” I have already explaned to you that the sun doesn't set at all EVER so when the term is metioned in the Bible, Quran or in any other every day usage it is always “observer viewpoint” We travel around the Sun every 24 hours when it is sunset to us it is sunrise to others but the fact is the Sun neither Rises or Sets it just appears to do so.
Every morning the Sunsets below the fence of my wooden backyard fence (From my viewpoint) Where doesthe sunset where you live?
Case Close next issue please.
Hi BD, No, case reopened.How do you explain the “muddy water” part and “the people” who are there?
Are these then DELUSIONS on the part of “observer Muhammad's viewpoint”?Ed
Have you ever witnessed the sunset withing the Context of a Horizon?August 19, 2013 at 4:47 am#355586bodhithartaParticipantTime is 10:15 am (IST) on Monday, Aug 19, 2013 – New Delhi, India
Here it is 9:46 PM where I am are you starting to get the picture?
August 19, 2013 at 4:58 am#355588Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 19 2013,15:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,12:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,15:14) This is not a literal statemet it is based on “observer viewpoint” I have already explaned to you that the sun doesn't set at all EVER so when the term is metioned in the Bible, Quran or in any other every day usage it is always “observer viewpoint” We travel around the Sun every 24 hours when it is sunset to us it is sunrise to others but the fact is the Sun neither Rises or Sets it just appears to do so.
Every morning the Sunsets below the fence of my wooden backyard fence (From my viewpoint) Where doesthe sunset where you live?
Case Close next issue please.
Hi BD, No, case reopened.How do you explain the “muddy water” part and “the people” who are there?
Are these then DELUSIONS on the part of “observer Muhammad's viewpoint”?Ed
Have you ever witnessed the sunset withing the Context of a Horizon?
Hi BD,We are not talking about what the sun looks like going down,
but of the “the people” and the “muddy water” where the sun sets.
how do you account for this, since you are trying to justify YOUR false prophet's delusions?Ed
August 19, 2013 at 10:26 pm#355678bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,15:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 19 2013,15:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,12:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,15:14) This is not a literal statemet it is based on “observer viewpoint” I have already explaned to you that the sun doesn't set at all EVER so when the term is metioned in the Bible, Quran or in any other every day usage it is always “observer viewpoint” We travel around the Sun every 24 hours when it is sunset to us it is sunrise to others but the fact is the Sun neither Rises or Sets it just appears to do so.
Every morning the Sunsets below the fence of my wooden backyard fence (From my viewpoint) Where doesthe sunset where you live?
Case Close next issue please.
Hi BD, No, case reopened.How do you explain the “muddy water” part and “the people” who are there?
Are these then DELUSIONS on the part of “observer Muhammad's viewpoint”?Ed
Have you ever witnessed the sunset withing the Context of a Horizon?
Hi BD,We are not talking about what the sun looks like going down,
but of the “the people” and the “muddy water” where the sun sets.
how do you account for this, since you are trying to justify YOUR false prophet's delusions?Ed
I really see nothing wrong with it, if you do it has something to do with reading comprehension. When Jesu said this is my Body and this is my blood I didn't take that literally did you?John 6:51-53
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? 53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
You seem like the Jews here.
Most of all what would thoseverses have to do with anything other than a component of journey of someone?
August 24, 2013 at 9:06 am#356048CharityParticipantLol
Elizabeth is very English, mary is Celtic Irish,
Elizabeth an mary were cosins, both royal blood linage. Peter, is a good old Irish French name, …not so sure the new tester meant is willing to include irealand to the iberian peninsula as part of the inheritance, even though Celtic Irish linage is way older than Latin.
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