Quran errors

[Ed J]

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2013,11:41)

Just to let you know David like you does not understand that ALL peple who Commit to God ad Submit are in FACT “MUSLIM” By DEFINITION.

When someone is called a Jew there is an ETHNIC component to it although a conversion to Judaism can make anyone be a Jew but the actual word Jew is TOTALLY ETHNIC

When somone is called CHRISTIAN it simply means follower of Christ it has no meaning beyond that, You can argue what a follower would do or believe but the meanings totality is “Follower of Christ”

Whe someon is called a Muslim is man that they are a “Submitter to God” So a Follower of Christ isin fct a “Submitter to God” if the truly follow Christ
and all Jews claim to “Submit to God” though the Law

so every believer must be a “Muslim” by definition becausethe word itself is an action, David does not understand that.

In this forum we who post are ALL “Posters” it is what we do by definition.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2013,11:41)

25:07

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Matthew 13:13
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Acts 28:26
saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

John 20:17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

[bodhitharta]

Mark 4:12
that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Why would Jesus say this?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 26 2013,16:53)

Mark 4:12 that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Why would Jesus say this?

Hi BD,

He's referring to those who have a heart of stone.  (see Ezek 11:19)

Ed

[Ed J]

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2013,14:24)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 26 2013,16:53) Mark 4:12 that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Why would Jesus say this? Hi BD, He's referring to those who have a heart of stone.  (see Ezek 11:19) Ed

So wouldn't that be fair to say that you also have a heart of stone towards Islam no different than the Jews had toward Christ Jesus?

However Jesus is saying he prefers they stay that way he doesn't want then to be converted and forgiven.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2013,15:36)

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2013,14:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 26 2013,16:53) Mark 4:12 that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Why would Jesus say this? Hi BD, He's referring to those who have a heart of stone.  (see Ezek 11:19) Ed So wouldn't that be fair to say that you also have a heart of stone towards Islam no different than the Jews had toward Christ Jesus? However Jesus is saying he prefers they stay that way he doesn't want then to be converted and forgiven.

Hi BD,

The OFFER to repent is open to all muslims alike. (Luke 13:5)

Ed (witness)

[bodhitharta]

These videos you keep posting are garbage. The people in them are way behind the curve in understanding what they are talking about
You should view them and examine them first and ask yourself “would Bodhitharta, even see it as fit?” I only say that because you are directing it towards me and seriously 99% of the videos are a waste of my time. They are full of nonobjective, hateful rubbish.

Look, I look forward to honest dialogue not dishonest attacks or manipulations. I really wish(God Willing) I could debate any of these people
they would not last long once I limit them to being COMPLETELY HONEST.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2013,15:46)

These videos you keep posting are garbage. The people in them are way behind the curve in understanding what they are talking about You should view them and examine them first and ask yourself “would Bodhitharta, even see it as fit?” I only say that because you are directing it towards me and seriously 99% of the videos are a waste of my time. They are full of nonobjective, hateful rubbish. Look, I look forward to honest dialogue not dishonest attacks or manipulations. I really wish(God Willing) I could debate any of these people they would not last long once I limit them to being COMPLETELY HONEST.

Hi BD,

You can debate “christian_prince”, here's how to get in touch with him…

Ed (witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2013,16:16)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 27 2013,15:46) These videos you keep posting are garbage. The people in them are way behind the curve in understanding what they are talking about You should view them and examine them first and ask yourself “would Bodhitharta, even see it as fit?” I only say that because you are directing it towards me and seriously 99% of the videos are a waste of my time. They are full of nonobjective, hateful rubbish. Look, I look forward to honest dialogue not dishonest attacks or manipulations. I really wish(God Willing) I could debate any of these people they would not last long once I limit them to being COMPLETELY HONEST. Hi BD, You can debate “christian_prince”, here's how to get in touch with him… Ed (witness)

ED

Are you sleepy orsomething that is Walid Shoebat an I already attempted to debate him but he never responded back
and most of you will never have an honest debate, you actually cannot.

You cannot debate me yourself because if you did you would have to admit your your misconceptions and manipulations.

You actually believ tht Walid Shoebat is a Christian Prince? lol…lol…lol..lol…

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

You actually believe that Walid Shoebat is christian_prince? LOL
“christian_prince” and Walid Shoebat are two different people.

Ed

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2013,17:20)

Hi BD, You actually believe that Walid Shoebat is christian_prince? LOL “christian_prince” and Walid Shoebat are two different people. Ed

Whoever was speaking in that Video was Walid Shoebat, if you can't tell you have much less perception than I thought.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 28 2013,13:09)

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2013,17:20) Hi BD, You actually believe that Walid Shoebat is christian_prince? LOL “christian_prince” and Walid Shoebat are two different people. Ed Whoever was speaking in that Video was Walid Shoebat, if you can't tell you have much less perception than I thought.

I Concede that they are not the same person. See how easy being honest is.

They both basically make the same type of videos and Christian_Prince has already been beaten bad in a debate

http://www.examinethetruth.com/cp_debate.htm

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

You're in denial, however I will keep posting the ERRORS for those who seek truth.

Ed (witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2013,18:21)

Hi BD, You're in denial, however I will keep posting the ERRORS for those who seek truth. Ed (witness)

You haven't posted any error yet, have you? Please keep posting so the facts can be revealed and your errors can be corrected

[Ed J]

Contradictions on the quran:

[bodhitharta]

Sorry, same old confused speaker who has no understanding

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,10:14)

Sorry, same old confused speaker who has no understanding

Hi BD,

The contradictions in the quran
       don't simply go away
because you refuse to accept them.  

Ed (witness)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 18 2013,10:51)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,10:14) Sorry, same old confused speaker who has no understanding Hi BD, The contradictions in the quran        don't simply go away because you refuse to accept them.   Ed (witness)

You see ED I won't engage regarding a general statement because it's just a trick of Satan, in the past I would engage you and even point out contradictions in the Bible but how would that increase your faith in God?

If you want to talk about something in particular I will but to argue in general is foolish so it would be better if you want to review the video you posted and pick out something you are concened about one at a time so I can clarify wha you do not understand, okay?

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