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Quote I posted aprrox 160 other comments on this board that are in response too genuine Christian reason and conversation…the “scriptures” you want me to comment on have nothing to do with anything other than this little crusade… Here's the thing. I'd love to chat with you in the “voting” thread, but I've had that conversation on here about 15 times. I have a file on it in my computer 80 pages long. All the scriptures, what the early Christians did, etc.
But, I've never had a chat with someone pretending to be a JW before. So I find this interesting.David..look again…I have been critical yes…but I have also defended the society over and over on these forums…the forum you are referncing…I let it be known that..I only want to discuss scripture and that I would not particpate in any “bashing” of the society..
I have also defended my right to remain and associate..because I see nothing intrinsically wrong with being a JW…I love my brothers in the congregation…and I have learned to look past the imperfections of men and focus on the Glory of Jehovah God…
And for the record you give them to much credit…as a long time elder in my hall named Doug Behr once said, “Remember, we are imperfect…just because we disfellowship someone, doesn't mean Jehovah has”….Jah judges…men don't…
So do as you please….I refuse to “cower at the sight of men”..”what can earthling man do to me”… I “believe in faith” and I “live in christ”…and for the record..I never fell away from God..I only fell away from “the truth”…call it disenchantment..call it seeking truth…all I know is that I feel more in truth now than I have at any other time in my life…
I “rejoice” in your walk…to bad you can't rejoice in mine…
Nevertheless…I pray for you as my brother…and I hope you do the same for me…
Quote (david @ June 05 2008,11:17) Quote I posted aprrox 160 other comments on this board that are in response too genuine Christian reason and conversation…the “scriptures” you want me to comment on have nothing to do with anything other than this little crusade… Here's the thing. I'd love to chat with you in the “voting” thread, but I've had that conversation on here about 15 times. I have a file on it in my computer 80 pages long. All the scriptures, what the early Christians did, etc.
But, I've never had a chat with someone pretending to be a JW before. So I find this interesting.
Pretending..lol… if i'm pretending report me…Cmon David keep the congregation clean..its your responsibility too you know..Like I said..I REJOICE in your walk David…and pray for you as i hope you pray for me…
Quote David..look again…I have been critical yes…but I have also defended the society over and over on these forums…the forum you are referncing…I let it be known that..I only want to discuss scripture and that I would not particpate in any “bashing” of the society.. Maybe if you could point to somewhere on the following forum where you're not doing that, or not leading people away:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/159093/1.ashxYou like to say things like: “I hate to be overly critical but…”
And then, you explain why you are correct and JW's are wrong.Quote I have also defended my right to remain and associate..because I see nothing intrinsically wrong with being a JW…I love my brothers in the congregation…and I have learned to look past the imperfections of men and focus on the Glory of Jehovah God…
Well that's great. You'll love me then. Because I'm just slightly less perfect than you. I don't doubt that you love your brothers in the hall. I in fact believe it's a main reason you stay.Quote And for the record you give them to much credit…as a long time elder in my hall named Doug Behr once said, “Remember, we are imperfect…just because we disfellowship someone, doesn't mean Jehovah has”….Jah judges…men don't…
Why do you keep talking about Disfellowshiping?Quote Pretending..lol… if i'm pretending report me..
That was half joking, and I knew it would get a response out of you.Quote David keep the congregation clean.
I know. We just have to remove the dirty ness.Quote (david @ June 05 2008,11:59) Quote Hi david,
So if you are less perfect why work on his “dirtiness”?Because I'm a hopeless case?
Well, at least you are honest David.Rather than exposing him, encourage your brother towards love and good deed, eh?
I hope this little rant against DK is over. It's been painful to witness.
Mandy
Quote (gsilva72 @ June 05 2008,16:28) Psalms 133:1 “Behold, how good and how pleasant it is For brethren to dwell together in unity!” 
HeyGS…Lol..keep…”heaping firey coals” on him
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 05 2008,15:30) Quote (david @ June 05 2008,11:59) Quote Hi david,
So if you are less perfect why work on his “dirtiness”?Because I'm a hopeless case?
Well, at least you are honest David.Rather than exposing him, encourage your brother towards love and good deed, eh?
I hope this little rant against DK is over. It's been painful to witness.
Mandy
Mandy…I promise it will not stop…because JW like David are threatned by “insiders” who tell the little secrets..and don't fall in line like toy soldiers…DK,
I was actually glad that David pointed us towards that one JW site. I know he meant it to expose you, but I read further on to the responses that your post received. They were postive and thanking you for thinking on your own and addressing some of the issues.
I admire the JW's study habits. I know that they are taught, as you have said, to have pat answers. I know this because I've been studying with them for about 3-4 years now (when they come to my door). And often I hear them say, “Well, we're not sure about that, we'll have to ask and get back to you……”. So, I know that if they have to come up with their own answers sometimes they stammer and are not sure. That's OK, I don't know it all either, but I like to keep an open mind and I believe that if I became a JW that would be frowned upon.
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 06 2008,04:00) DK, I was actually glad that David pointed us towards that one JW site. I know he meant it to expose you, but I read further on to the responses that your post received. They were postive and thanking you for thinking on your own and addressing some of the issues.
I admire the JW's study habits. I know that they are taught, as you have said, to have pat answers. I know this because I've been studying with them for about 3-4 years now (when they come to my door). And often I hear them say, “Well, we're not sure about that, we'll have to ask and get back to you……”. So, I know that if they have to come up with their own answers sometimes they stammer and are not sure. That's OK, I don't know it all either, but I like to keep an open mind and I believe that if I became a JW that would be frowned upon.
Hey…mandyThat site he referenced..you are right about…instead of exposing me…he is really exposing you all to negative press for JW's…that site albiet full of alot of angry people…is not that far from the truth…I would say what you read on there is 90-95% accurate…
Mandy whats sad is the type of discussion yourself and I have had…I have rarely seen take place amongst my JW bretheren..which is so sad…the problem is studying in the JW faith is limited to reading the WT, Awake, and the ajoining publications…so you only have one view…with only one view how do you know if you are right? You get what i'm saying
Thats why I am the way that I am…I refuse to believe just anything…Although me and you have different points of view on certain things…we still build one another up, by helping each to “refine and test” our faith as 1 Peter talks about…
So I thank you…for being a believer and not a follower…
God Bless
Quote (dirtyknections @ June 05 2008,11:05) David…your scriptures deserve no comment…because they hold no merit…i've explained the name..you are the only one who feels that way about the name….therefore your thoughts have been noted…lets move…I posted aprrox 160 other comments on this board that are in response too genuine Christian reason and conversation…the “scriptures” you want me to comment on have nothing to do with anything other than this little crusade… And who are you to say “I won't be a JW much longer''…you sound as if you would like me to be DF'ed…for you non JW's thats means shunned or excommunicated…thats what he is talking about..
David…move on brother…if you can't then Report me to the elders…if you feel i am so bad…
I go to the Macclenny Congregation in Glen St.Mary, FL
8500 County Road 139B
Glen St Mary, FL 32040
(904) 259-3626The PO is Scott Booze….do what you like “brother”
I have to agree with David, I think your users name is not Christian like. Who would ever want to be dirty. We as Christians want to be washed and made clean. So I hope you will change your attitude, it is rather a selfish one. Just because you have a Website with that name.
Peace and Love Mrs.Quote (seek and you will find @ June 06 2008,06:56) I have to agree with David, I think your users name is not Christian like.
It's the outside of the cup, Irene.What's inside is “Christian like”, imo. Reading DK's posts speak for themselves, don't they?
Some would say my user name is not Christian-like!
I guess you can't please everyone.
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 06 2008,07:12) Quote (seek and you will find @ June 06 2008,06:56) I have to agree with David, I think your users name is not Christian like.
It's the outside of the cup, Irene.What's inside is “Christian like”, imo. Reading DK's posts speak for themselves, don't they?
Some would say my user name is not Christian-like!
I guess you can't please everyone.
Quote (seek and you will find @ June 06 2008,06:56) Quote (dirtyknections @ June 05 2008,11:05) David…your scriptures deserve no comment…because they hold no merit…i've explained the name..you are the only one who feels that way about the name….therefore your thoughts have been noted…lets move…I posted aprrox 160 other comments on this board that are in response too genuine Christian reason and conversation…the “scriptures” you want me to comment on have nothing to do with anything other than this little crusade… And who are you to say “I won't be a JW much longer''…you sound as if you would like me to be DF'ed…for you non JW's thats means shunned or excommunicated…thats what he is talking about..
David…move on brother…if you can't then Report me to the elders…if you feel i am so bad…
I go to the Macclenny Congregation in Glen St.Mary, FL
8500 County Road 139B
Glen St Mary, FL 32040
(904) 259-3626The PO is Scott Booze….do what you like “brother”
I have to agree with David, I think your users name is not Christian like. Who would ever want to be dirty. We as Christians want to be washed and made clean. So I hope you will change your attitude, it is rather a selfish one. Just because you have a Website with that name.
Peace and Love Mrs.
seek…Am I stumbling you?Quote That site he referenced..you are right about…instead of exposing me…he is really exposing you all to negative press for JW's.. Yes, that being, the negative press you started, encourage, and endorse on that thread. That is what I exposed them to. You're criticalness of the organization you claim you're not critical about.
So when you said you weren't critical of JW's that was wrong. You are, and publicly so. Some on that site, because of what you said, have agreed with you and apparently turned away from studying with JW's.
Yet you say you are not critical of JW's.Quote Mandy…I promise it will not stop…because JW like David are threatned by “insiders” who tell the little secrets.. I'm not threatened by insiders who tell secrets. I don't think you've told mandy anything she doesn't know, for example. What I am troubled by is that you don't really seem to be what you claim to be.
Anthony, I'm wondering if you believe any in your congregation have “marked” you. (2Th 3:6, 11, 13-15; 1Co 5:11; 2Jo 9, 10.)
Quote I have to agree with David, I think your users name is not Christian like.
Well there you go DK, I am not the “ONLY” one as you stated, and as you stated in another thread “everybody” asks about it.Quote seek…Am I stumbling you?
hmmm. It's not like I mentioned that this might stumble someone, or “everybody.” And I do think I mentioned that it seemed selfish to me that you stick with this thing that I think would deter people from listening to a Christian message so you can have your freedom. Seek seems to agree that it seems selfish. I'm really not sure how you can't see that.david.
Quote (david @ June 06 2008,13:40) Quote That site he referenced..you are right about…instead of exposing me…he is really exposing you all to negative press for JW's.. Yes, that being, the negative press you started, encourage, and endorse on that thread. That is what I exposed them to. You're criticalness of the organization you claim you're not critical about.
So when you said you weren't critical of JW's that was wrong. You are, and publicly so. Some on that site, because of what you said, have agreed with you and apparently turned away from studying with JW's.
Yet you say you are not critical of JW's.Quote Mandy…I promise it will not stop…because JW like David are threatned by “insiders” who tell the little secrets.. I'm not threatened by insiders who tell secrets. I don't think you've told mandy anything she doesn't know, for example. What I am troubled by is that you don't really seem to be what you claim to be.
Anthony, I'm wondering if you believe any in your congregation have “marked” you. (2Th 3:6, 11, 13-15; 1Co 5:11; 2Jo 9, 10.)
Quote I have to agree with David, I think your users name is not Christian like.
Well there you go DK, I am not the “ONLY” one as you stated, and as you stated in another thread “everybody” asks about it.Quote seek…Am I stumbling you?
hmmm. It's not like I mentioned that this might stumble someone, or “everybody.” And I do think I mentioned that it seemed selfish to me that you stick with this thing that I think would deter people from listening to a Christian message so you can have your freedom. Seek seems to agree that it seems selfish. I'm really not sure how you can't see that.david.
Noted for the record…moving on
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