Proof: no new earth at coming.

[Wakeup]

 

Scriptural proof: there will be no new earth soon after the coming.
For the earth will be desolate for many generations.

Isaiah 13:1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.

Isaiah 13:2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.
THEY WILL GO INTO THE GATES OF THE NOBLES,THE RICH AND MIGHTY.

Isaiah 13:3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
***even them that rejoice in my highness***.

Isaiah 13:4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
A KINGDOM OF *NATIONS* TOGETHER; THE LORD MUSTERETH THE HOST OF THE BATTLE.

Isaiah 13:5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
THEY COME FROM A FAR COUNTRY.

Isaiah 13:6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
THE DAY OF THE LORD.

Isaiah 13:7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man’s heart shall melt:

Isaiah 13:8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.
THAT DAY WILL COME AS A THIEVE TO THE WORLD; BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL ASLEEP SPIRITUALLY.
THE SPIRITUALLY AWAKE WILL BE WAITNG FOR THE COMING WITH REJOICING AND PRAYERS,AND THANKS GIVINGS.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
DESTROY THE SINNERS OUT OF IT. THE LAND IS SPIRITUALLY DESOLATE,AND WILL BE MADE DESOLATE PHYSICALLY ALSO.

Isaiah 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
SIGNS OF THE COMING ALSO IN REV.6:12-13-14. THIS WOULD BE THE 7TH TRUMPET.

Isaiah 13:11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
PUNISH THE WORLD (BABYLON), THE PROUD AND ARROGANT. THE SPIRITUALLY NAKED,WITH NO COVERINGS ON: NO ARMOUR ON.
THE ARMOUR OF TRUTH,NOT ANY TRUTH CONCOCTED BY THE WORLD; BASED UP ON LIES.
WE SHOULD TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

Isaiah 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
AS GOD’S JEWELS. THOSE ARE MY JEWELS GOD SAYS. Malachi 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels. and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
THE ANGER OF THE LORD; BECAUSE OF THE DESOLATION IS TO THE CONSUMATION.(DAN.9:27).(JER.25:38).

Isaiah 13:14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.
DESPERATE WITH NO WHERE TO TAKE COVER. THEY HAVE NOT COME TO THE LORD IN TRUTH, FOR PROTECTION.
THEY HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THE TRUE SHEPHERD,BUT HAVE GONE ASTRAY SEEKING THEIR OWN PASTURES.
THEY DID NOT RECOGNISE THE VOICE OF THE TRUE SHEPHERD. ANOTHER SHEPHERDS VOICE THEY RECOGNISED.

Isaiah 13:15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Isaiah 13:17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.
I WILL STIR UP THE MEDES (IRAN) AGAINST BABYLON THE GREAT,THE BEAST WITH THE HARLOT AS A SYSTEM, RIDING ON HIM.

Isaiah 13:18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees’ excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
BABYLON SHALL BE AS GOD OVERTHREW SODOM AND GOMORAH.

Isaiah 13:20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in FROM GENERATION to GENERATION: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.
IT SHALL NEVER BE INHABITED;FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
(THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A NEW EARTH TO ME.BUT A DESOLATED EARTH).

Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A NEW EARTH TO ME, WITH MAN EATING BEASTS ROAMING AROUND.

Isaiah 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.
WILD BEASTS? DESOLATE HOUSES? DRAGONS? CAN NOT BE A NEW EARTH. THAT IS NOT A MOLTEN EARTH,AS BELIEVED BY MANY.

THE WRITTEN WORD SHOULD BE THE FOUNDATION OF OUR BELIEVE SYSTEM,(A DOCTRINE BASED ON TRUTH).
OR WE BUILT DOCTRINE UP ON MAN’S WISDOM, WHICH IS IN CONTRADICTION TO SCRIPTURE; THE WORD OF GOD.
GOD WILL TEACH US HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PURE GOLD AND FALSE GOLD.
NO ONE DESIRES TO HEAP UP FALSE GOLD THINKING IT IS PURE.

Shalom, shalom.
wakeup.

[Wayne]

Good strong points wakeup.

Just as the Israelites must make their own way to Israel after Christ returns and whilst He reigns in Jerusalem at that!!

Yet Christians are already gathered and changed in the twinkling of an eye to meet Christ in the clouds .. so what are these flesh ones still doing alive, let alone being gathered <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>to Israel </span> and by foot at that, if all was melted at Christs coming??

Not only that, and concerning that, why does God dry up the tongue of the Egyptian Sea for them to return and make them cross over dryshod as they did in the day that the Lord brought them out of the land of Egypt if the old earth is melted up??

Why would God bother drying up the rivers for to make literal highways, as opposed to its spiritual meaning, to guide them back to Israel after Christs return  if the earth was melted up?? (They are returning over the same terrain/places/lands we have with us even today!!)

And why weren’t they gathered at the Christian harvest to meet Christ in the clouds??

But are gathered after His return and yet are still flesh!!

Why weren’t they melted??

And why are heathens pleading to any Jew they come across to take them to Israel for they heard the Lord is there!!

What are heathens still doing alive after the second coming, they should have been melted up too!!

Wakeup .. I am afraid that traditions run deep .. and the glass is clouded .. and teachers are heaped up.

Thus I agree with you ..

There is no possible new earth after Christs 2nd coming & neither is there one, by extension, during Christs  millennial rule.

And that is scriptural.

Keep up the good work ..

God bless.

 

 

 

 

 

[terraricca]

wayne

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
Rev 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
Rev 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
Rev 21:6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.

so we should believe you and wakeup and throw the scriptures away i guess ,i hope no one does that opinions of man are not to be followed only scriptures m

[Wayne]

“so we should believe you and wakeup and throw the scriptures away i guess ,i hope no one does that opinions of man are not to be followed only scriptures m”

Well you already have thrown away most of the scriptures to keep your mainstream invented doctrine by so called “church fathers’ from where your belief on this subject so obviously stems .. Oh and your view was from the time where the vision was still sealed, hence yours and their mistake ..

But just keep drinking that wine .. that way you can continue feeling secure as you gnash and claw and rend ..

Just behold the many scriptures you must ignore on this subject!

You must be very good at denial while you cling on to a few verses you think justifies your man made speculation.

Its a circus really .. so cheer on the clowns.

Either your discernment is poor or you are editing the incoming information with preconceived concepts if you can not perceive that ch21 is a continuation of ch20 ..

And that, my confused man, is after Christ hands back the kingdom to the Father.

So go ahead, continue discarding scriptures for your narrow view by all means ..

There is only One who can save you from yourself ..

But you don’t seem to be listening to Him either.

[terraricca]

wayne

Well you already have thrown away most of the scriptures to keep your mainstream invented doctrine by so called “church fathers’ from where your belief on this subject so obviously stems .. Oh and your view was from the time where the vision was still sealed, hence yours and their mistake ..

But just keep drinking that wine .. that way you can continue feeling secure as you gnash and claw and rend ..

Just behold the many scriptures you must ignore on this subject!

You must be very good at denial while you cling on to a few verses you think justifies your man made speculation.

Its a circus really .. so cheer on the clowns.

Either your discernment is poor or you are editing the incoming information with preconceived concepts if you can not perceive that ch21 is a continuation of ch20 ..

And that, my confused man, is after Christ hands back the kingdom to the Father.

So go ahead, continue discarding scriptures for your narrow view by all means ..

There is only One who can save you from yourself ..

But you don’t seem to be listening to Him either.

yeah you start to look as a twin brother to wakeup no prove no scriptures no view just disclaimer , and no substance either

opinion upon opinions

[journey42]

Pierre

Everybody knows there will be a millennium, Christ and his saints reigning for a thousand years.
How can the earth be melted?
The knowledge of the Lord has to spread throughout the whole earth. Future generations have to be born yet.
The Kingdom of God is in Jerusalem, and the gentiles live outside the gates.
The new heaven and earth are for those who have been changed to spirit. It will be created after the 2nd resurrection, when the last enemy is destroyed, and that is death. Judgement complete. A new heaven and earth will be made for the saints.

[journey42]

Pierre

Why do you not rebuke the one who says that God created everything through Lucifer?
and that Lucifer is “The Word of God”
or the same one who claims that Jesus had Satan’s spirit in him?
Doesn’t it bother your spirit, seeing as you are so outspoken?
Are you so comfortable with it, that you cannot speak up on something so blasphemous?
maybe just not comfortable with the truth?

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Which side of the fence are you on?

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