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You see prophecy as today’s news, not the future
Hi Nick,
This sounds like the news of the day to me…
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David
a Savior, which is Christ the Lord“ (Luke 2:11)Nick’s version…
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David
a Savior, which is (to be) Christ the Lord“ (Luke 2:11)hi ED,
Yes he was the designated one to be infilled with the Spirit without measure.
It happened later of course.
Nick,
First we are told man was created in the image of God.
Second you are still attempting to claim there is a third way.
The righteousness of the most righteous man that lives by the flesh is dirty rags to God.
The source of righteousness is God and without the Spirit there is no righteousness.
Hi ED,
Adam never was blessed in the Spirit.
The point that God was making is that man left to his natural resources is easy meat for the smart talking prince of this world.
Hi Nick,
I want to compare a few verses (it may help you see the bigger picture)
God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (Genesis 2:7)
The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit
Jesus breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the HolySpirit (John 20:22)“And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat (Jesus=74) fall into the ground and die,
it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much “fruit”=74.” (John 12:23-24)_______________
God bless
Ed JHi KW,
Man was made in the image of God.
Yes he was soul and spirit just as God is and he was given a body from the dirt of earth.
Jesus Christ is a quickening Spirit.
Now the Lord is the Spirit.
Hi ED,
The elements that will be destroyed by extreme heat are thoughts??
“our God is a consuming fire” (Hebrews 12:29)
“be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind” (Rom.12:2)“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire;
and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built
thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss:
but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” (1 Corinthians 3:12-15)Nice to see discussion!!!, however egos are showing something severe. Exploration by either finding scripture to back up an Idea, which has been thoroughly tested or a logical idea that conforms to what is known is scripture are valid leaning ideals. Many things that happened in the first church are gone out of our knowledge, as the truth has been twisted through 2000 yrs it no longer exists in todays minds.
Now I have come across stuff that works. but is not in the bible. as in what to pray and how to pray and stuff related to God. It doesn’t mean its of the devil if its just not in the bible. This can be put to some well loved doctines to. some have been changed to suit the translators bias over the centuries. It is people who are stuck in their religion that stubbornly refuse the possibility anything new is from God. As people uncover possibly the old or original way things were done. Especially if it undermines the old religious hierarchy.
When we vehemently uphold OUR point of view, what are we doing? A verbal boxing match. and yes I have been reading each post here. There a few that are big right hooks (or left hooks if you are a molly duker). Verging on insults. but not going that far. No one person has it 100% correct. It is correct for each of us at the present time. For we know who we pray to and the reason we will be heard. by Father. the rest is semantics. So, bring the militant tone of our ‘debate’ down a few notches. If we have the ultimate or correct truth, then as Father said “If you search with all your heart, you will find me” (no particular version, basic English). Anyone basically versed in speech and psych can read these posts as clear as a bell.
Wether we believe that jesus was the Son of god from Father to produce the baby of Mary or how ever. he is the promised sin offering of Father. All else is peripheral. John the Baptist as it says was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb, but did no miracles made no big prophesies. Got up the Pharisees noses as did his cousin. Got his head separated for his troubles. He is the only OT prophet born having the HS in him. Look it up by all means, yet did no miraculous deeds just told people of the man to come, just happened to be his cousin.
Now I have said my piece. I will let you go on with your boxing match.
David H,
Wether we believe that jesus was the Son of god from Father to produce the baby of Mary or how ever. he is the promised sin offering of Father. All else is peripheral.
This is unclear but what you say sounds like you are taking away from the gospel.
Jesus did not come to make peace but to bear the sword.
Nick,
Man was made in the image of God.
Yes he was soul and spirit just as God is and he was given a body from the dirt of earth.
Image of God means more than that. The only use I know of that clause in Scripture means like God in true holiness and righteousness.
If you know anything else then please let me know.
Hi KW,
So you PRESUME it means more?
YOU pronounce him HOLY and RIGHTEOUS?
Even Jesus Christ did not allow himself to be called HOLY.
Nick,
Jesus Christ is a quickening Spirit.
Now the Lord is the Spirit.
Are you sure that is really implied by Scripture?
Could it instead be that you were taught falsehood and that falsehood gives you a flawed context when looking at those verses. Satan is very tricky with his lies.
It is not written that Jesus is a quickening spirit but you have been taught to believe it is. It is written that the Lord is Spirit but could it be that instead of being identified as the Spirit Jesus is said to have qualities of the Spirit just as when it is written that God is Love it is not identifying God as Love but instead claiming he has the qualities of Love.
Nick,
Jesus rebuked the man that called him “good”. Human beings, including Jesus, are by nature evil.
Matthew 7:11New King James Version (NKJV)
11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!
Only God is good and therefore the source of all goodness.
Nick,
Once again the only definition is Scripture for the clause the image of god that I know is being like God in true righteousness and holiness.
That is not my definition but the one God uses.
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