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Nick,
Satan twisted the spirit of God’s words in his argument with Eve and then said she would not die that very day. She did not die in a 24 hour period but she did become mortal as a result of eating the fruit.
Using a falsehood for a premise is unsound logic. In short Satan used what in logic is called a straw-man fallacy.
Sound and valid logic is to say since God said Eve would die that very day and God did not lie it follows that in some way Eve did indeed die the very day she ate the fruit. You and others use that reasoning though there is differences in the way each person has concluded Eve died that very day.
Nick,
Sometimes it is easy to see where others go astray. In this case it is easy to see you are suffering from denial as in this case there are only a limited number of reasons why Joseph would put away his intended and all but one are absurd considering the context.
I realize you are trying to advance a doctrine you accept as true but I view with disdain as I see it as anti-intellectualism and the therefore based on the principles of humanity.
It would be wise for you to come to the realization that you have been taught falsely by humanity and seek to find what is actually the truth.
Hi KW,
So to not believe the implications you see is to be in DENIAL?
I am surprised you so easily leave scripture behind to follow the ways of men.
Hi KW,
Now you speak of the SPIRIT OF SCRIPTURE that seemingly allows inference as well?
What is T8 thinking now if you have such abilities?
Nick,
Adam died within 1000yrs=1 day
That is your logical argument but you are assuming God mean 1000 years when he literally said day.
You are also taking the words that one day is as 1000 years too literal.
The most simple explanation is she died Spiritually in that 24 hour period. That was more important to God than the death of the body which he could have prevented as long as he so chose.
Nick,
T8 is in not in denial on that passage so his motives are more difficult to discern. I can see them other places though.
Humanity goes into their denial phase because they find something unpleasant and seemingly impossible to handle with reason.
Those that love darkness go into denial because they do not want to come into the light while those that hunger and thirst for righteousness overcome their fears that obstruct them and flock to the light.
I cannot say that I have overcome my fears yet.
hi KW,
So you use other nonspiritual skills in your walk that are more important than what is written?
Nick,
I believe God wherever he speaks but you misunderstand him by being too literal when it is not called for.
Peter tells us that time is irrelevant to God as he could say that an event could take a multitude of days and it can be over within a day or he could say something could take a day and it could take a multitude of days even thousands of years.
It is over one thousand years since Jesus was conceived and yet it is still his day.
When God says a day is a million years long I am not going to disagree with him.
Hi KW,
You say
“Those that love darkness go into denial because they do not want to come into the light while those that hunger and thirst for righteousness overcome their fears that obstruct them and flock to the light”
So the light is the TRUTH
THY WORD is TRUTH.
But now you ask us to accept that your implications and logic are also truth and to curse those who fail to give much credence to them?
Hi,
This exercise shows how much men really believe first in themselves and their own minds.
Yet we are meant to be transformed by renewal of our minds.
Nick,
My simple explanation is based fully on Scripture. Why don’t you already know that?
Ephesians 2:1, 5, Colossians 2:13, and 1 Peter 2:24 all speak of Spiritual death.
Nick,
You are still clinging to false teachings or you would know that tools can be used by those that life by the flesh or those that live by the Spirit. The fruit will tell you which is using the tool.
Hi KW,
So those who choose not to trust inference are following false teachings.
Where does scripture teach this?
We are to pull down speculations not encourage them
Nick,
Those who choose to mediate on what they have been told are acting like fools and if thy teach others to do likewise then they are false teachers.
Inferences are hints and can be misleading but implications are more solid but even they must be the fruits of the Spirit as logical reasoning can only determine if a conclusion is sound and valid not if it is true. It is easier to determine if a teaching is false.
Hi KW,
You mean MEDITATE?
Scripture interprets itself without the help of the logic and inferences of men.
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