Preexistence

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  • #806860
    kerwin
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    Ed,

    Hi Kerwin,

    Have you studied with the JW’s?

    The word is not a being and the JW’s it and “it”.

    Saying the word is the chief of angels because the angels obey it is related to saying the worlds were framed by it as both are personalizations of the word of God. The later is written in Hebrews 11:3.

    #806875
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDJ……I DID NOT SAY “FREE” WILL, I SAID “WILLS”, BIG DIFFERENCE BROTHER.

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

    #806877
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Justifications will not suffice.

    Lies are lies

    #806878
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    The Word is from the beginning not the Jordan.

    The Word was with God and was God.

     

    The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us from the Jordan.

    Now Jesus is one with the Word forever.

    #806879
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    God’s concept of time is vastly different to man’s.

    1000 years can be as one day to Him.

     

    Man is dependant on his concept of time for his logic to work.

     

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    It is said of us that we are saved, we are being saved and we will be saved in scripture.

    All are true.

     

    If scripture said the anointed ruler of the world would be born in Bethlehem would you believe it?

    Of course he was not yet anointed.

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    #806891
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Justifications will not suffice.

    Lies are lies

    what is subject you speak of?

    #806892
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    The words of the philosopher Philo.

    He has muddied the waters for many.

    #806894
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    There would be no Trinity doctrine doctrine if people has listened to him. Instead they preferred to ignore the context of Scripture and invent their own context. In doing so they revealed they were not guided by the Spirit. Such ignorant and corrupt humans are mentioned as misinterpreting Scripture even in Scripture.

    Nevertheless, I was explaining his words so that certain people could not claim they did not know what he meant. I all they can claim is the ignored what I explained. If they do not repent they will be judged.

    #806895
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    You threaten condemnation to those who see through a deceived philosopher?

    interesting.

    #806896
    Ed J
    Participant

    Nick,

    God’s word is the chief of messengers because the angels obey it.

    Hi Kerwin,

    Have you studied with the JW’s?

    The word is not a being and the JW’s it and “it”.

    Saying the word is the chief of angels because the angels obey it is related to saying the worlds were framed by it as both are personalizations of the word of God. The later is written in Hebrews 11:3.

    Hi Kerwin,

    Was your response an answer of “Yes” to my question, or more of a “No”?

    #806897
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Philo was a fraud.

    A man who added greek philosophical thought to the pure truth of God.

    #806898
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Belief in the preexistence shows the fundamental failure to really listen to Jesus Christ.

    The Spirit was speaking through him and he told us so.

    #806903
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Don’t you believe what is written?

    Titus 1:12-13New English Translation (NET Bible)

    12 A certain one of them, in fact, one of their own prophets, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 Such testimony is true. For this reason rebuke them sharply that they may be healthy in the faith

    Paul quotes a Cretan, even though he admits that people are liars. He also admits that Cretan is speaking the truth when he accuses his peoples his people of being liars.

    Acts 17:28New English Translation (NET Bible)

    28 For in him we live and move about and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we too are his offspring.’

    Once again Paul speaks of those who do not believe as speaking true words and yet the arrogant choose to condemn all the words of those that do not believe as they do. Those that are wise test the spirit of the words to see if they are true instead of attacking the one that speaks or writes the words. The immature and unbeliever are afraid to test the teachings they hear, either rejecting them out of hand or accepting them without question.

    Always test the spirit of the word, even of those you deem credible.

    It is easy to condemn foolish actions as the foolishness they are.

    #806904
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    The answer is no though I have looked at the Watchtower a time or to. I did sit with some Mormon missionaries and others but my teaching and there are at odds. The JW’ are as much in error since they take what is meant as symbolism literally. If I looked deeper I am sure some of what they say is true. What I know about is a spin on the truth.

    #806905
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    So you continue to attempt to justify the falsehoods of a deceiver?

    Whom do you serve?

    #806906
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    All I hear is that you are condemning Paul for using the words of unbelievers and claiming they are true.

    I on the other hand believe is did right when he used those words.

    Beware what you write and say.

    #806907
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    You are battling Scripture which reveals that even unbelievers speak the truth at times.

    Its time you take the advice of Proverbs 17:28.

    #806908
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Working from the theory that truth can be found among the deceived you offer the hope that Philo was such a case?

    His actions in aligning truth with carnal philosophy and his own words betray him.

    Whom do you serve ?

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    #806910
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Your words lack foundation while I have reveal my actions are based in Scripture.

    As for me I can test Philo’s claim that the word of God can be personalized as an archangel very easy.

    Scripture teaches us that the angels of God obey the word of God and therefore it is their chief.

    It can be called an angel because in it is the life of man. (Romans 1:16 and John 1:4)

    So in disagreeing with those claims you are disagreeing with Scripture, even if other of his claims are false.

    You would be wise to either put you prejudices aside or remain quiet and seek to humble yourself before God.

    #806911
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Is there any end to your justifications of his falsehoods?

    Whom do you serve?

     

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