Preexistence

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2012,15:54)

Hi T, No serious. The greeks love their human wisdom and it is a great barrier to grasping the wisdom of God.[1cor2]

N

you know that Paul was the man send to the Greeks and see were their wisdom took them ,they even have killed their own good people ,wisdom is only good for the ones who have wisdom and are wise ,and humble by nature,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
No wisdom is for the simple.[prov 3.5]
God does not add it to the “wise”[1cor2]
Those who listen and obey are wise[mt7.26]

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2012,16:27)

Hi T, No wisdom is for the simple.[prov 3.5] God does not add it to the “wise”[1cor2] Those who listen and obey are wise[mt7.26]

N

Pr 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
Pr 3:6 in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make your paths straight.

Pr 3:7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;
fear the LORD and shun evil.

1Co 2:1 When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.
1Co 2:2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling.
1Co 2:4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power,
1Co 2:5 so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.

Mt 7:26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.

Mt 5:2 and he began to teach them, saying:
Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Eph 1:8 that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding.
Eph 1:9 And he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ,
Eph 1:10 to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment—to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ.
Eph 1:11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
If you want strength be weak.
If you want light confess your darkness.
If you want wisdom admit your utter ignorance.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2012,16:44)

Hi T, If you want strength be weak. If you want light confess your darkness. If you want wisdom admit your utter ignorance.

N

yes and all as to be before God

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,14:26)

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:45) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:37) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:35) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:29) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:27) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:22) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:13) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:05) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:01) F Quote The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! that is correct Pierre, And Father Yahweh's word is also Not A Person Or A Being! F that is not correct,because it is in the message Pierre, Father Yahweh's set apart [“holy”] spirit is also personified in Trinitarian translations just as His word is also personified in Trinitarian translations. F this is not so in the message Pierre, Sure it is! You just refuse to see it! F show me in scriptures ,or re phrase your question ok ? Pierre, I never asked you a question!   F ok, so you did not ,so big deal ,but you did not answer mine   Pierre, I have answered all of your questions THOROUGHLY! You just refuse to take note of them! The following is an excerpt from my web page which follows this excerpt: The Holy Spirit is referred to as he and him in translation. This is also true of common tools, etc. “Then said Yahshua unto him, Put up again thy sword into, his place, for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword” (Mattithyah [Matthew] 26:52; also cf. Yechetzqyah [Ezekiel] 21:3-5, 30). The word 'house' is personified in translation in Yeremyah [Jeremiah] 22:14. The word 'ordinance' is personified in translation in Exodus 13:10. The word 'patience' is given a female personification in translation in Yaaqob [James] 1:4. The word 'wisdom' is also given a female personification in Proverbs 1:20; 9:1 & 31:26. The Holy Spirit Is An It! The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also An It! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also Not A Person Or A Being! F you are now try to get me in grammar in a multi language study, but I ask you just a few scriptures not a live long study of pebbles, do you know what his the message that we have to believe in so that we can be saved by

Pierre,

No, I have spoken to you in plain English that you obviously have problems understand and communicating in.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
In the beginning was the WORD
not a man.
Jn1

[terraricca]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 29 2012,20:06)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,14:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:45) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:37) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:35) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:29) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:27) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:22) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:13) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:05) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:01) F Quote The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! that is correct Pierre, And Father Yahweh's word is also Not A Person Or A Being! F that is not correct,because it is in the message Pierre, Father Yahweh's set apart [“holy”] spirit is also personified in Trinitarian translations just as His word is also personified in Trinitarian translations. F this is not so in the message Pierre, Sure it is! You just refuse to see it! F show me in scriptures ,or re phrase your question ok ? Pierre, I never asked you a question!   F ok, so you did not ,so big deal ,but you did not answer mine   Pierre, I have answered all of your questions THOROUGHLY! You just refuse to take note of them! The following is an excerpt from my web page which follows this excerpt: The Holy Spirit is referred to as he and him in translation. This is also true of common tools, etc. “Then said Yahshua unto him, Put up again thy sword into, his place, for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword” (Mattithyah [Matthew] 26:52; also cf. Yechetzqyah [Ezekiel] 21:3-5, 30). The word 'house' is personified in translation in Yeremyah [Jeremiah] 22:14. The word 'ordinance' is personified in translation in Exodus 13:10. The word 'patience' is given a female personification in translation in Yaaqob [James] 1:4. The word 'wisdom' is also given a female personification in Proverbs 1:20; 9:1 & 31:26. The Holy Spirit Is An It! The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also An It! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also Not A Person Or A Being! F you are now try to get me in grammar in a multi language study, but I ask you just a few scriptures not a live long study of pebbles, do you know what his the message that we have to believe in so that we can be saved by Pierre, No, I have spoken to you in plain English that you obviously have problems understand and communicating in.

F

IF all you say was true and of God then I have been warned and you are not guilty of my blood ,

but if all you say is wrong then you are guilty of trying to corrupt a righteous man

so let it leave at that and see,

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca………..So you say you are a Righteous man, But Jesus said why call me good there is only one that is Good and that is GOD. Jesus himself did not reckon himself to be good or righteous, person but you are a righteous one right?

God said he looked for ONE “Righteous Man and found None , therefore he took it upon his own Arm to bring Salvation. Pierre i believe you probably did not mean it that way i hope>

peace and love…………………………………………………………gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 30 2012,08:15)

Terricca………..So you say you are a Righteous man, But Jesus said why call me good there is only one that is Good and that is GOD. Jesus himself did not reckon himself to be good or righteous, person but you are a righteous one right? God said he looked for ONE “Righteous Man and found None , therefore he took it upon his own Arm to bring Salvation.  Pierre i believe you probably did not mean it that way i hope> peace and love…………………………………………………………gene

g

DT 25:1 “ If there is a dispute between men and they go to court, and the judges decide their case, and they justify the righteous and condemn the wicked,

2SA 4:11 “How much more, when wicked men have killed a righteous man in his own house on his bed, shall I not now require his blood from your hand and destroy you from the earth?”

1KI 2:32 “ The LORD will return his blood on his own head, because he fell upon two men more righteous and better than he and killed them with the sword, while my father David did not know it:

EZR 9:15 “O LORD God of Israel, You are righteous, for we have been left an escaped remnant, as it is this day; behold, we are before You in our guilt, for no one can stand before You because of this.”

JOB 15:14 “What is man, that he should be pure,
Or he who is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
JOB 17:9 “Nevertheless the righteous will hold to his way,
And he who has clean hands will grow stronger and stronger.

PS 7:9 O let the evil of the wicked come to an end, but establish the righteous;
For the righteous God tries the hearts and minds.

The eyes of the LORD are toward the righteous
And His ears are open to their cry.
PS 34:17 The righteous cry, and the LORD hears
And delivers them out of all their troubles.

PS 34:21 Evil shall slay the wicked,
And those who hate the righteous will be condemned.
PS 37:12
The wicked plots against the righteous
And gnashes at him with his teeth.

PS 37:16
Better is the little of the righteous
Than the abundance of many wicked.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
We are not righteous except that we can have the clothing of the Son put on us, the breastplate.
He covers our sin

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,11:22)

Hi T, We are not righteous except that we can have the clothing of the Son put on us, the breastplate. He covers our sin

N

yes there are righteous people but not before God ,no one can stand before God and say he is righteous according to God ,

but some men are more righteous than others

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
No righteousness is not a sliding scale.
Either you are made righteous in the Son or you are yet in your sin.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,12:09)

Hi T, No righteousness is not a sliding scale. Either you are made righteous in the Son or you are yet in your sin.

N

it seems scriptures disagree with you;;

2SA 4:11 “How much more, when wicked men have killed a righteous man in his own house on his bed, shall I not now require his blood from your hand and destroy you from the earth?”

1KI 2:32 “ The LORD will return his blood on his own head, because he fell upon two men more righteous and better than he and killed them with the sword, while my father David did not know it:

EZR 9:15 “O LORD God of Israel, You are righteous, for we have been left an escaped remnant, as it is this day; behold, we are before You in our guilt, for no one can stand before You because of this.”

JOB 15:14 “What is man, that he should be pure,
Or he who is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
JOB 17:9 “Nevertheless the righteous will hold to his way,
And he who has clean hands will grow stronger and stronger.

PS 7:9 O let the evil of the wicked come to an end, but establish the righteous;
For the righteous God tries the hearts and minds.

The eyes of the LORD are toward the righteous
And His ears are open to their cry.
PS 34:17 The righteous cry, and the LORD hears
And delivers them out of all their troubles.

PS 34:21 Evil shall slay the wicked,
And those who hate the righteous will be condemned.
PS 37:12
The wicked plots against the righteous
And gnashes at him with his teeth.

PS 37:16
Better is the little of the righteous
Than the abundance of many wicked.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Is seems your reliance on the OT Law robs you of the salvation in Jesus.
There is none righteous[Rom3

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,14:11)

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 29 2012,20:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,14:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:45) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:37) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:35) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:29) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:27) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:22) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:13) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:05) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:01) F Quote The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! that is correct Pierre, And Father Yahweh's word is also Not A Person Or A Being! F that is not correct,because it is in the message Pierre, Father Yahweh's set apart [“holy”] spirit is also personified in Trinitarian translations just as His word is also personified in Trinitarian translations. F this is not so in the message Pierre, Sure it is! You just refuse to see it! F show me in scriptures ,or re phrase your question ok ? Pierre, I never asked you a question!   F ok, so you did not ,so big deal ,but you did not answer mine   Pierre, I have answered all of your questions THOROUGHLY! You just refuse to take note of them! The following is an excerpt from my web page which follows this excerpt: The Holy Spirit is referred to as he and him in translation. This is also true of common tools, etc. “Then said Yahshua unto him, Put up again thy sword into, his place, for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword” (Mattithyah [Matthew] 26:52; also cf. Yechetzqyah [Ezekiel] 21:3-5, 30). The word 'house' is personified in translation in Yeremyah [Jeremiah] 22:14. The word 'ordinance' is personified in translation in Exodus 13:10. The word 'patience' is given a female personification in translation in Yaaqob [James] 1:4. The word 'wisdom' is also given a female personification in Proverbs 1:20; 9:1 & 31:26. The Holy Spirit Is An It! The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also An It! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also Not A Person Or A Being! F you are now try to get me in grammar in a multi language study, but I ask you just a few scriptures not a live long study of pebbles, do you know what his the message that we have to believe in so that we can be saved by Pierre, No, I have spoken to you in plain English that you obviously have problems understand and communicating in.   F IF all you say was true and of God then I have been warned and you are not guilty of my blood , but if all you say is wrong then you are guilty of trying to corrupt a righteous man so let it leave at that and see,

Pierre,

Well, where is it that I tried to get you in grammar and a multi-language study?

[terraricca]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 30 2012,17:38)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2012,14:11) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 29 2012,20:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,14:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:45) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:37) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:35) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:29) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:27) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:22) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:13) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 28 2012,20:05) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2012,13:01) F Quote The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! that is correct Pierre, And Father Yahweh's word is also Not A Person Or A Being! F that is not correct,because it is in the message Pierre, Father Yahweh's set apart [“holy”] spirit is also personified in Trinitarian translations just as His word is also personified in Trinitarian translations. F this is not so in the message Pierre, Sure it is! You just refuse to see it! F show me in scriptures ,or re phrase your question ok ? Pierre, I never asked you a question!   F ok, so you did not ,so big deal ,but you did not answer mine   Pierre, I have answered all of your questions THOROUGHLY! You just refuse to take note of them! The following is an excerpt from my web page which follows this excerpt: The Holy Spirit is referred to as he and him in translation. This is also true of common tools, etc. “Then said Yahshua unto him, Put up again thy sword into, his place, for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword” (Mattithyah [Matthew] 26:52; also cf. Yechetzqyah [Ezekiel] 21:3-5, 30). The word 'house' is personified in translation in Yeremyah [Jeremiah] 22:14. The word 'ordinance' is personified in translation in Exodus 13:10. The word 'patience' is given a female personification in translation in Yaaqob [James] 1:4. The word 'wisdom' is also given a female personification in Proverbs 1:20; 9:1 & 31:26. The Holy Spirit Is An It! The Holy Spirit Is Not A Person Or A Being! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also An It! Father Yahweh's Word Is Also Not A Person Or A Being! F you are now try to get me in grammar in a multi language study, but I ask you just a few scriptures not a live long study of pebbles, do you know what his the message that we have to believe in so that we can be saved by Pierre, No, I have spoken to you in plain English that you obviously have problems understand and communicating in.   F IF all you say was true and of God then I have been warned and you are not guilty of my blood , but if all you say is wrong then you are guilty of trying to corrupt a righteous man so let it leave at that and see, Pierre, Well, where is it that I tried to get you in grammar and a multi-language study?

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,06:26)

Hi T, Is seems your reliance on the OT Law robs you of the salvation in Jesus. There is none righteous[Rom3

My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Yahshua Messiah the righteous: (1 Yahchanan [John] 2:10).

To this you were called, because Messiah suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps (1 Kepha [Peter] 2:21).

Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law[/B] (1 Yahchanan [John] 3:4).

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 30 2012,11:00)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,06:26) Hi T, Is seems your reliance on the OT Law robs you of the salvation in Jesus. There is none righteous[Rom3 My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Yahshua Messiah the righteous: (1 Yahchanan [John] 2:10). To this you were called, because Messiah suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps (1 Kepha [Peter] 2:21). Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law[/B] (1 Yahchanan [John] 3:4).

Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law (1 Yahchanan [John] 3:4).

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 30 2012,11:00)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,06:26) Hi T, Is seems your reliance on the OT Law robs you of the salvation in Jesus. There is none righteous[Rom3 My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Yahshua Messiah the righteous: (1 Yahchanan [John] 2:10). To this you were called, because Messiah suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps (1 Kepha [Peter] 2:21). Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law (1 Yahchanan [John] 3:4).

Yahweh Tsidkenu{/B] means; Yahweh Our Righteousness!

And it shall be righteousness for us, IF we observe to do all these commandments before Yahweh our Almighty One, as He has commanded us (Deuteronomy 6:5).

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