Preexistence

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  • #284553
    Ed J
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2012,14:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,17:25)
    PIERRE,

    Your English is severely lacking.


    Howz your French Edj?


    Hi T8,

    At least if he wrote in French, I could use “Google translate”.
    Perhaps someone here can translate Pierre's English for me?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #284555
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,17:37)
    Hi T8,

    At least if he wrote in French, I could use “Google translate”.
    Perhaps someone here can translate Pierre's English for me?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    OK, I will help you.

    It looks to me like a quote gone wrong rather than English gone wrong. Mike's quote to be precise.

    Don't worry about it Watson.

    #284559
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2012,21:55)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,17:37)
    Hi T8,

    At least if he wrote in French, I could use “Google translate”.
    Perhaps someone here can translate Pierre's English for me?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    OK, I will help you.

    It looks to me like a quote gone wrong rather than English gone wrong. Mike's quote to be precise.

    Don't worry about it Watson.


    t8

    :D :D :)

    #284560
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,21:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,11:25)
    edj

    show us all how is the holy spirit different from Christ birth and the one from the time of his baptism that actually only came upon him as a sign to John so that he knew that this was the Christ to come after him ,

    so show us ???


    PIERRE,

    Your English is severely lacking.
    I don't understand the question
    or questions that you are asking.
    Can you use different words here.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I know ,it does not support your way of thinking :D :D

    #284562
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,15:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,21:25)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,11:25)
    edj

    show us all how is the holy spirit different from Christ birth and the one from the time of his baptism that actually only came upon him as a sign to John so that he knew that this was the Christ to come after him ,

    so show us ???


    PIERRE,

    Your English is severely lacking.
    I don't understand the question
    or questions that you are asking.
    Can you use different words here.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I know ,it does not support your way of thinking  :D  :D


    PIERRE,

    You are in the habit of blaming others for not understanding your English, as if
    that somehow equates to you being right about their doctrine being wrong.     …truly this is foolishness on your part.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #284572
    terraricca
    Participant

    EDJ

    Why you do not answer my question?

    #284576
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,16:03)
    EDJ

    Why you do not answer my question?


    Hi Pierre,

    Reword it in a way that is understandable
    and I will certainly answer it for you; OK?

    If you need help, perhaps Mike
    will help you to reword it. :)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #284585
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,23:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,16:03)
    EDJ

    Why you do not answer my question?


    Hi Pierre,

    Reword it in a way that is understandable
    and I will certainly answer it for you; OK?

    If you need help, perhaps Mike
    will help you to reword it. :)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    I do not need your answer it is ok

    #284596
    Ed J
    Participant

    OK

    #284602
    david
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2012,10:16)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 12 2012,00:31)
    Thoughts?


    Luke 2
    11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.

    The angel didn't say, “He WILL BE Christ the Lord”.

    Luke 2
    25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

    29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
      you now dismiss your servant in peace.
    30 For my eyes have seen your salvation
    ,
    31 which you have prepared in the sight of all people,
    32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles
      and for glory to your people Israel.”

    How could God have kept His promise to Simeon 30 years prior to Jesus BECOMING the Christ?  God promised he would see His Christ, and Simeon thanked God for keeping that promise – when Jesus was but 8 days old.

    1 Samuel 10
    1 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying, “Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his inheritance?

    10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying.

    It seems that God anointed Saul with Holy Spirit AFTER he was already God's anointed one.

    These are my thoughts, David.  What say you?


    Hi mike

    I knew there were a couple of such scriptures that existed.
    It does seem there is evidence on both sides

    [b]Christ represents both a title “anointed one” and an identity (person): Jesus. [\b]

    It seems we are focusing on when the anointed one appeared. And you are focusing on when the Christ (the person) arrived.

    If it was foretold that a king (named George) would come, and now George is sitting in front of you, but he hasn't yet been crowned, you are still likely to think of him as king. I mean, even if it's not official yet, you make George angry and it's just a matter of time before it's “off with your head.”

    Or, think of a president before he is officially the president. People still see him as president, despite it being official.

    It seems to me that messiah appeared when he was anointed with spirit, and that Dan 9 points to Jesus anointing and not his birth.

    #284608
    terraricca
    Participant

    David

    Was not Christ predestinated long before he came down ??

    And was not his baptism a start to begin his work as to fulfill his father words as they have been written by the prophets ?

    So his baptism was not his coronation has king he was already king at birth to say the least,just as David add been chosen way before Natan onointed him right ?? And he as well could not even be king on the throne ,Saul (Satan) was still on the throne, right

    So the second time around it will be different he be king in full power ,this is what we waiting for ,

    #284609
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,18:42)
    David

    Was not Christ predestinated long before he came down ??

    And was not his baptism a start to begin his work as to fulfill his father words as they have been written by the prophets ?

    So his baptism was not his coronation has king he was already king at birth to say the least,just as David add been chosen way before Natan onointed him right ?? And he as well could not even be king on the throne ,Saul (Satan) was still on the throne, right

    So the second time around it will be different  he be king in full power ,this is what we waiting for ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Saul was hardly satan?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #284713
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (david @ Mar. 13 2012,01:05)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2012,10:16)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 12 2012,00:31)
    Thoughts?


    Luke 2
    11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.

    The angel didn't say, “He WILL BE Christ the Lord”.

    Luke 2
    25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

    29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
      you now dismiss your servant in peace.
    30 For my eyes have seen your salvation
    ,
    31 which you have prepared in the sight of all people,
    32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles
      and for glory to your people Israel.”

    How could God have kept His promise to Simeon 30 years prior to Jesus BECOMING the Christ?  God promised he would see His Christ, and Simeon thanked God for keeping that promise – when Jesus was but 8 days old.

    1 Samuel 10
    1 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying, “Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his inheritance?

    10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying.

    It seems that God anointed Saul with Holy Spirit AFTER he was already God's anointed one.

    These are my thoughts, David.  What say you?


    Hi mike

    I knew there were a couple of such scriptures that existed.  
    It does seem there is evidence on both sides

    [b]Christ represents both a title “anointed one” and an identity (person): Jesus. [\b]

    It seems we are focusing on when the anointed one appeared.  And you are focusing on when the Christ (the person) arrived.

    If it was foretold that a king (named George) would come, and now George is sitting in front of you, but he hasn't yet been crowned, you are still likely to think of him as king.  I mean, even if it's not official yet, you make George angry and it's just a matter of time before it's “off with your head.”

    Or, think of a president before he is officially the president.  People still see him as president, despite it being official.

    It seems to me that messiah appeared when he was anointed with spirit, and that Dan 9 points to Jesus anointing and not his birth.


    Hi David,

    I see your point, but think it is weak.  We have words to describe a soon to be king (prince), and a soon to be President (President-Elect).

    I'll stick with what the scriptures clearly say, although I do see your point.

    #284714
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Jesus said many times that God spoke through him
    Why do you not believe him?

    #284715
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    God spoke through all of His prophets. Why would I not believe He also spoke through the most recent one? ???

    Or rather, why would you imply I don't believe He did?

    #284716
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    David,

    Do you suppose Jesus was totally without Holy Spirit for the first 30 years of his life?

    #284731
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Can you show what you assert from scripture?
    Does God dwell in carnal men?

    You must be born again.

    #284732
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2012,16:55)
    David,

    Do you suppose Jesus was totally without Holy Spirit for the first 30 years of his life?


    Lk 2:49 “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”
    Lk 2:50 But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
    Lk 2:51 Then he went down to Nazareth with them and was obedient to them. But his mother treasured all these things in her heart.
    Lk 2:52 And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men

    #284734
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2012,18:33)
    Hi MB,
    Can you show what you assert from scripture?
    Does God dwell in carnal men?

    You must be born again.


    To which post of mine do you refer?

    #284745
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    “Do you suppose Jesus was totally without Holy Spirit for the first 30 years of his life? “
    All men only have their own spirit till they are reborn from above

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