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- March 13, 2012 at 3:37 am#284553
Ed JParticipantQuote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2012,14:28) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,17:25) PIERRE, Your English is severely lacking.
Howz your French Edj?
Hi T8,At least if he wrote in French, I could use “Google translate”.
Perhaps someone here can translate Pierre's English for me?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 13, 2012 at 3:55 am#284555
ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,17:37) Hi T8, At least if he wrote in French, I could use “Google translate”.
Perhaps someone here can translate Pierre's English for me?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
OK, I will help you.It looks to me like a quote gone wrong rather than English gone wrong. Mike's quote to be precise.
Don't worry about it Watson.
March 13, 2012 at 4:02 am#284559
terrariccaParticipantQuote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2012,21:55) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,17:37) Hi T8, At least if he wrote in French, I could use “Google translate”.
Perhaps someone here can translate Pierre's English for me?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
OK, I will help you.It looks to me like a quote gone wrong rather than English gone wrong. Mike's quote to be precise.
Don't worry about it Watson.
t8
March 13, 2012 at 4:04 am#284560
terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,21:25) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,11:25) edj show us all how is the holy spirit different from Christ birth and the one from the time of his baptism that actually only came upon him as a sign to John so that he knew that this was the Christ to come after him ,
so show us

PIERRE,Your English is severely lacking.
I don't understand the question
or questions that you are asking.
Can you use different words here.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjI know ,it does not support your way of thinking
March 13, 2012 at 4:19 am#284562
Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,15:04) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,21:25) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,11:25) edj show us all how is the holy spirit different from Christ birth and the one from the time of his baptism that actually only came upon him as a sign to John so that he knew that this was the Christ to come after him ,
so show us

PIERRE,Your English is severely lacking.
I don't understand the question
or questions that you are asking.
Can you use different words here.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjI know ,it does not support your way of thinking

PIERRE,You are in the habit of blaming others for not understanding your English, as if
that somehow equates to you being right about their doctrine being wrong. …truly this is foolishness on your part.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 13, 2012 at 5:03 am#284572
terrariccaParticipantEDJ
Why you do not answer my question?
March 13, 2012 at 5:21 am#284576
Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,16:03) EDJ Why you do not answer my question?
Hi Pierre,Reword it in a way that is understandable
and I will certainly answer it for you; OK?If you need help, perhaps Mike
will help you to reword it.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 13, 2012 at 5:34 am#284585
terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,23:21) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,16:03) EDJ Why you do not answer my question?
Hi Pierre,Reword it in a way that is understandable
and I will certainly answer it for you; OK?If you need help, perhaps Mike
will help you to reword it.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJI do not need your answer it is ok
March 13, 2012 at 6:39 am#284596
Ed JParticipantOK
March 13, 2012 at 7:05 am#284602
davidParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2012,10:16) Quote (david @ Mar. 12 2012,00:31) Thoughts?
Luke 2
11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.
The angel didn't say, “He WILL BE Christ the Lord”.Luke 2
25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you now dismiss your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all people,
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles
and for glory to your people Israel.”How could God have kept His promise to Simeon 30 years prior to Jesus BECOMING the Christ? God promised he would see His Christ, and Simeon thanked God for keeping that promise – when Jesus was but 8 days old.
1 Samuel 10
1 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying, “Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his inheritance?10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying.
It seems that God anointed Saul with Holy Spirit AFTER he was already God's anointed one.
These are my thoughts, David. What say you?
Hi mikeI knew there were a couple of such scriptures that existed.
It does seem there is evidence on both sides[b]Christ represents both a title “anointed one” and an identity (person): Jesus. [\b]
It seems we are focusing on when the anointed one appeared. And you are focusing on when the Christ (the person) arrived.
If it was foretold that a king (named George) would come, and now George is sitting in front of you, but he hasn't yet been crowned, you are still likely to think of him as king. I mean, even if it's not official yet, you make George angry and it's just a matter of time before it's “off with your head.”
Or, think of a president before he is officially the president. People still see him as president, despite it being official.
It seems to me that messiah appeared when he was anointed with spirit, and that Dan 9 points to Jesus anointing and not his birth.
March 13, 2012 at 7:42 am#284608
terrariccaParticipantDavid
Was not Christ predestinated long before he came down ??
And was not his baptism a start to begin his work as to fulfill his father words as they have been written by the prophets ?
So his baptism was not his coronation has king he was already king at birth to say the least,just as David add been chosen way before Natan onointed him right ?? And he as well could not even be king on the throne ,Saul (Satan) was still on the throne, right
So the second time around it will be different he be king in full power ,this is what we waiting for ,
March 13, 2012 at 7:46 am#284609
Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,18:42) David Was not Christ predestinated long before he came down ??
And was not his baptism a start to begin his work as to fulfill his father words as they have been written by the prophets ?
So his baptism was not his coronation has king he was already king at birth to say the least,just as David add been chosen way before Natan onointed him right ?? And he as well could not even be king on the throne ,Saul (Satan) was still on the throne, right
So the second time around it will be different he be king in full power ,this is what we waiting for ,
Hi Pierre,Saul was hardly satan?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 13, 2012 at 10:47 pm#284713
mikeboll64BlockedQuote (david @ Mar. 13 2012,01:05) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2012,10:16) Quote (david @ Mar. 12 2012,00:31) Thoughts?
Luke 2
11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.
The angel didn't say, “He WILL BE Christ the Lord”.Luke 2
25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you now dismiss your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all people,
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles
and for glory to your people Israel.”How could God have kept His promise to Simeon 30 years prior to Jesus BECOMING the Christ? God promised he would see His Christ, and Simeon thanked God for keeping that promise – when Jesus was but 8 days old.
1 Samuel 10
1 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying, “Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his inheritance?10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying.
It seems that God anointed Saul with Holy Spirit AFTER he was already God's anointed one.
These are my thoughts, David. What say you?
Hi mikeI knew there were a couple of such scriptures that existed.
It does seem there is evidence on both sides[b]Christ represents both a title “anointed one” and an identity (person): Jesus. [\b]
It seems we are focusing on when the anointed one appeared. And you are focusing on when the Christ (the person) arrived.
If it was foretold that a king (named George) would come, and now George is sitting in front of you, but he hasn't yet been crowned, you are still likely to think of him as king. I mean, even if it's not official yet, you make George angry and it's just a matter of time before it's “off with your head.”
Or, think of a president before he is officially the president. People still see him as president, despite it being official.
It seems to me that messiah appeared when he was anointed with spirit, and that Dan 9 points to Jesus anointing and not his birth.
Hi David,I see your point, but think it is weak. We have words to describe a soon to be king (prince), and a soon to be President (President-Elect).
I'll stick with what the scriptures clearly say, although I do see your point.
March 13, 2012 at 10:49 pm#284714NickHassan
ParticipantHi MB,
Jesus said many times that God spoke through him
Why do you not believe him?March 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm#284715
mikeboll64BlockedGod spoke through all of His prophets. Why would I not believe He also spoke through the most recent one?

Or rather, why would you imply I don't believe He did?
March 13, 2012 at 10:55 pm#284716
mikeboll64BlockedDavid,
Do you suppose Jesus was totally without Holy Spirit for the first 30 years of his life?
March 14, 2012 at 12:33 am#284731NickHassan
ParticipantHi MB,
Can you show what you assert from scripture?
Does God dwell in carnal men?You must be born again.
March 14, 2012 at 12:38 am#284732
terrariccaParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2012,16:55) David, Do you suppose Jesus was totally without Holy Spirit for the first 30 years of his life?
Lk 2:49 “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”
Lk 2:50 But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
Lk 2:51 Then he went down to Nazareth with them and was obedient to them. But his mother treasured all these things in her heart.
Lk 2:52 And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and menMarch 14, 2012 at 12:42 am#284734
mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2012,18:33) Hi MB,
Can you show what you assert from scripture?
Does God dwell in carnal men?You must be born again.
To which post of mine do you refer?March 14, 2012 at 1:07 am#284745NickHassan
ParticipantHi MB,
“Do you suppose Jesus was totally without Holy Spirit for the first 30 years of his life? “
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