Preexistence

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  • #283138
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,00:31)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,12:09)
    Hi MB,
    The Spirit is ever with and of God.
    Theology does not rule


    Hi Nick,

    Amen to that!

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    N, EDJ

    The milkman will leave you a bottle at the usual place

    #283140
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2012,11:59)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:57)
    Hi MB,
    In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was God.


    God cannot be WITH God, Nick.


    Hi Mike,

    The Bible doesn't say 'God was with God'?
    The Bible says “The Word” was with God.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #283141
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,18:51)
    N, EDJ

    The milkman will leave you a bottle at the usual place


    Hi Pierre,

    I no longer drink milk, I eat strong meat.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #283160
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,02:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,18:51)
    N, EDJ

    The milkman will leave you a bottle at the usual place


    Hi Pierre,

    I no longer drink milk, I eat strong meat.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    not according to the truth that comes out of you soul

    #283165
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    To All….> You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words, God who is Spirit was (IN) Jesus , if you can come to Just see that it will correct much of your confusions. WE are all to be Judged by our words and God is judged and Justified by His words. If you just understood what a WORD (IS) that along should explain things to you , a WORD (IS) intelligent utterance That is all a word is and it is produced by the SPIRIT working (IN) a Person, rather God or Man. God who (IS) SPIRIT was (IN) Jesus. Why is this so simple truth so hard for anyone to understand is amazing to me.

    peace and love to you all ……………………………………………….Gene

    #283166
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:31)
    To All….> You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words, God who is Spirit was (IN) Jesus , if you can come to Just see that it will correct much of your confusions.  WE are all to be Judged by our words and God is judged and Justified by His words. If you just understood what a WORD (IS) that along should explain  things to you , a WORD (IS) intelligent utterance  That is all a word is and it is produced by the SPIRIT working (IN) a Person, rather God or Man. God who (IS) SPIRIT was (IN) Jesus.  Why is this so simple truth so hard for anyone to understand is amazing to me.

    peace and love to you all ……………………………………………….Gene


    gene

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    You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words,

    you know what are copy wrights ?

    this is to protect someone words, intellect ,ect

    so words can be stolen,and words are not part of you until you have created them ,

    in other words;if I keep my mount shut and do not speak I have no words ,right ???yes

    so tell me ;what kind of words did God say then that they were with him in the beginning ?????any clue ??????

    #283168
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca…………….Just read the scriptures start with Genesis and see what GOD SPOKE it is just that simple are you so confused by false religions you can't even figure that out? Jesus even said they were not “HIS” words. I just cant believe how confused you people are here.

    peace and love…………………………………………………gene

    #283169
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:45)
    Terricca…………….Just read the scriptures start with Genesis and see what GOD SPOKE it is just that simple are you so confused by false religions you can't even figure that out? Jesus even said they were not “HIS” words. I just cant believe how confused you people are here.

    peace and love…………………………………………………gene


    gene

    not worth to answer your request ,answer my question first

    you do not have a nail to sit on

    #283184
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2012,19:30)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2012,11:59)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:57)
    Hi MB,
    In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was God.


    God cannot be WITH God, Nick.


    Hi Mike,

    The Bible doesn't say 'God was with God'?
    The Bible says “The Word” was with God.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi T,
    Why would you stay where you are?
    You have nothing to be smug about.

    The WORD was with God and the WORD was GOD.

    #283185
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,12:38)
    F

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    Pierre,

    It is not MY way, but it is FATHER YAHWEH'S WAY! It is just as Yahshua said “… not my will (or way) be done, but Your will (or way) be done.”

    Frank,it is your way;the words you are quoting are not your they are Christ words and you are not Christ or are you ??????????

    according to the scriptures you quoting you are mostly quoting your own words as I can see,so it is your will in is full splendor that you are making to be the words of God,this is not the way that God as made men to use his words ,so you have no truth in your words .

    I follow scriptures the words of my God


    Pierre,

    You keep contradicting yourself! First you say “Frank,it is your way” then you turn right around and contradict yourself and say “the words you are quoting are not your they are Christ words”. Then on top of that, why would you ask me “you are not Christ or are you ??????????”, when I have never suggested that I was YOUR “Christ” or anyone else's? Then to make matters even worse, after you tell me “the words you are quoting are not your they are Christ words”, then you turn right around and tell me “according to the scriptures you quoting you are mostly quoting your own words as I can see,so it is your will in is full splendor that you are making to be the words of God”. Can you not plainly see that you are contradicting yourself in your own words. Is this who YOUR “'God' made [YOU] to use [it's] words? Then to really top it off, you falsely say “so you have no truth in your words . Then you top all this topping off and say “I follow scriptures the words of my God”.

    I can only laugh at all the worthless “God crap” that you spew! :D

    #283186
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 06 2012,17:12)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,15:35)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2012,11:59)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:57)
    Hi MB,
    In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was God.


    God cannot be WITH God, Nick.


    Mike,

    What do you propose the proper translation of the verse to be if you are not in agreement with the translation Nick has posted?


    There is no definite article in the last instance of God, so it is not saying that the Word is God or God with God.


    t8,

    What are you ranting on about now? First off, my post was not directed TO YOU, but what was a question directed TO MIKE. Second, my question was in reference to the translation that Nick submitted as follows:

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    In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was God.

    My question TO MIKE was “What do you propose the proper translation of the verse to be if you are not in agreement with the translation Nick has posted?”, then you do not directly answer my question TO MIKE, but instead YOU go off on some tangent acting as though you have knowledge of proper English grammar saying the following:

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    There is no definite article in the last instance of God, so it is not saying that the Word is God or God with God.

    First off, I will have to ASK YOU, where did I ASK MIKE to explain to me anything about the grammatical construction of Nick's English translation of this verse? Then I would have to ASK YOU, what the are you talking about in saying in reference to my question TO MIKE to the the translation that Nick submitted “it is not saying that the Word is God or God with God.” when I know full well that this is not what this translation that Nick submitted says?

    What is going on here? Are you people getting more stupid with every post that you make? :D

    #283188
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2012,02:39)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:31)
    To All….> You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words, God who is Spirit was (IN) Jesus , if you can come to Just see that it will correct much of your confusions.  WE are all to be Judged by our words and God is judged and Justified by His words. If you just understood what a WORD (IS) that along should explain  things to you , a WORD (IS) intelligent utterance  That is all a word is and it is produced by the SPIRIT working (IN) a Person, rather God or Man. God who (IS) SPIRIT was (IN) Jesus.  Why is this so simple truth so hard for anyone to understand is amazing to me.

    peace and love to you all ……………………………………………….Gene


    gene

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    You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words,

    you know what are copy wrights ?

    this is to protect someone words, intellect ,ect

    so words can be stolen,and words are not part of you until you have created them ,

    in other words;if I keep my mount shut and do not speak I have no words ,right ???yes

    so tell me ;what kind of words did God say then that they were with him in the beginning ?????any clue ??????


    Pierre,

    I believe you would be better off keeping your “mount shut” and to not speak another word! :D

    #283189
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2012,11:59)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:57)
    Hi MB,
    In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was God.


    God cannot be WITH God, Nick.


    Mike,

    “Heaven Net” only knows where you got the idea that the translation that Nick submitted says “God was with God”! :D

    #283192
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Frank,
    Your raging rants make it hard to listen to you.
    Can you be more courteous?

    #283196
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 07 2012,12:56)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2012,02:39)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:31)
    To All….> You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words, God who is Spirit was (IN) Jesus , if you can come to Just see that it will correct much of your confusions.  WE are all to be Judged by our words and God is judged and Justified by His words. If you just understood what a WORD (IS) that along should explain  things to you , a WORD (IS) intelligent utterance  That is all a word is and it is produced by the SPIRIT working (IN) a Person, rather God or Man. God who (IS) SPIRIT was (IN) Jesus.  Why is this so simple truth so hard for anyone to understand is amazing to me.

    peace and love to you all ……………………………………………….Gene


    gene

    Quote
    You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words,

    you know what are copy wrights ?

    this is to protect someone words, intellect ,ect

    so words can be stolen,and words are not part of you until you have created them ,

    in other words;if I keep my mount shut and do not speak I have no words ,right ???yes

    so tell me ;what kind of words did God say then that they were with him in the beginning ?????any clue ??????


    Pierre,

    I believe you would be better off keeping your “mount shut” and to not speak another word!  :D


    F

    it is true you are more eloquent in your language than I ever be,but for its proper use that as to be seen ,you are of no reputation in understanding ,you could have shown me your superiority in knowledge ,but no you rather use a vulgar approach why ??? is this your true nature ???

    just like gene ,can't answer then you insult.

    #283203
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2012,01:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,02:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,18:51)
    N, EDJ

    The milkman will leave you a bottle at the usual place


    Hi Pierre,

    I no longer drink milk, I eat strong meat.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    not according to the truth that comes out of you soul


    Pierre,

    Your not actually sucking on a cow teats, are you? :D

    #283204
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,06:26)
    Hi Frank,
    Your raging rants make it hard to listen to you.
    Can you be more courteous?


    Nick,

    Like I have told you a number of times already, if you do not approve of what it is that I post, then simply do not read them and respond to them. Simply as that! :)

    #283209
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2012,06:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 07 2012,12:56)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2012,02:39)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:31)
    To All….> You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words, God who is Spirit was (IN) Jesus , if you can come to Just see that it will correct much of your confusions.  WE are all to be Judged by our words and God is judged and Justified by His words. If you just understood what a WORD (IS) that along should explain  things to you , a WORD (IS) intelligent utterance  That is all a word is and it is produced by the SPIRIT working (IN) a Person, rather God or Man. God who (IS) SPIRIT was (IN) Jesus.  Why is this so simple truth so hard for anyone to understand is amazing to me.

    peace and love to you all ……………………………………………….Gene


    gene

    Quote
    You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words,

    you know what are copy wrights ?

    this is to protect someone words, intellect ,ect

    so words can be stolen,and words are not part of you until you have created them ,

    in other words;if I keep my mount shut and do not speak I have no words ,right ???yes

    so tell me ;what kind of words did God say then that they were with him in the beginning ?????any clue ??????


    Pierre,

    I believe you would be better off keeping your “mount shut” and to not speak another word!  :D


    F

    it is true you are more eloquent in your language than I ever be,but for its proper use that as to be seen ,you are of no reputation in understanding ,you could have shown me your superiority in knowledge ,but no you rather use a vulgar approach why ??? is this your true nature ???

    just like gene ,can't answer then you insult.


    Pierre,

    And where is it where I was being “vulgar”? Oh! I see! You can insult others, but no one is to insult you, right? Is that how you rule here?

    #283222
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,14:44)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,18:38)
    Hi MB,
    OPPOSING?
    The son of God obeyed God in everything.

    “Not my will but thine be done”

    The Word shows how the Son of God also could also be the servant of God.


    And therein lies your problem, Nick.

    If this was the Word/Spirit/God Himself speaking THROUGH Jesus of Nazareth in John 6:38, then “NOT my will, BUT yours” indicates TWO opposing wills.

    Does God have two opposing wills?

    Had it truly been God speaking through Jesus, it would have went more like “I came to do my will”.  God cannot say “Not MY will, but MY will be done”.


    If it was God who said through Christ, not my will but your will, then the opposite is true. i.e., that God said not his will but Jesus will.

    I think it is pretty obvious to anyone that Jesus said this and was talking about his will when he said, “not my will”.

    Why is this even being discussed. This is less than milk. You don't need to be spiritual to understand it just as you don't need to be spiritual to understand the verse “So Simon Peter climbed back into the boat and dragged the net ashore.”.

    :(

    #283223
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,
    The WORD did not speak for God but spoke as the servant Son.
    WE will come to you[Jn14]

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